Tiger Woods biggest mistake: getting married

[Samdari]

So the one who couldn't send dirty pictures because she was at work - I am guessing she's NOT the porn star.

You know, this stable of so many women in so many cities kind of indicates he had the talent to play in the NBA.

[Dr. Sak]

I wonder if EA Sports knew all along and there is some secret code that unlocks all these girls naked in the game.

[Rizon]

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I am deeply aware of the disappointment and hurt that my infidelity has caused to so many people, most of all my wife and children. I want to say again to everyone that I am profoundly sorry and that I ask forgiveness. It may not be possible to repair the damage I've done, but I want to do my best to try.

I would like to ask everyone, including my fans, the good people at my foundation, business partners, the PGA Tour, and my fellow competitors, for their understanding. What's most important now is that my family has the time, privacy, and safe haven we will need for personal healing.

After much soul searching, I have decided to take an indefinite break from professional golf. I need to focus my attention on being a better husband, father, and person.

Again, I ask for privacy for my family and I am especially grateful for all those who have offered compassion and concern during this difficult period.

[RainMaker]

Where are all the people who said this would not have an impact on his legacy?

[jeff061]

It won't.

[jeff061]

Well unless he quits or starts sucking. I don't see that happening though.

[Izulde]

He'll wait until the media's moved on to something else. Then he'll come back, start kicking ass again and the media will start blowing him better than his mistresses ever did again.

[MacroGuru]

It's the right move for him...he can hire the hitmen to take out those who talked...and...

Honestly, he needed to do this...he has a lot to fix, I wouldn't be surprised if he is done for a year or more.

[Logan]

Yeah I took about two years off from golf and my game was in the same EXACT place when I picked it back up.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Izulde

He'll wait until the media's moved on to something else. Then he'll come back, start kicking ass again and the media will start blowing him better than his mistresses ever did again.

I think it'll be make bigger headlines when he comes back (not to mention to keep the presses going). I think hiding, even if he isn't playing, is hurting him more.

His sponsors can't be too happy.

[Ryan S]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

I think it'll be make bigger headlines when he comes back (not to mention to keep the presses going). I think hiding, even if he isn't playing, is hurting him more.

His sponsors can't be too happy.

Tiger needs to learn a few lessons from A-Rod. Once the story was out there he admitted it publicly and took the heat in TV interviews and press conferences. Less than a year later he is a world champion who has shed his playoff choker tag, and he is dating a movie star.

The longer Tiger leaves it before surfacing, the more difficult it will be for him.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Logan

Yeah I took about two years off from golf and my game was in the same EXACT place when I picked it back up.

But really, is leaving with a 80 handicap and coming back with an 80 handicap all that comparable to Tiger's situation?

[JPhillips]

You can talk your way out of an affair, but what the hell can Tiger say to get out of bagging a seemingly endless number of women?

[panerd]

Originally Posted by Ryan S

Tiger needs to learn a few lessons from A-Rod. Once the story was out there he admitted it publicly and took the heat in TV interviews and press conferences. Less than a year later he is a world champion who has shed his playoff choker tag, and he is dating a movie star.

The longer Tiger leaves it before surfacing, the more difficult it will be for him.

If you are talking about steroids than yes, but ARod was hated for years before this and part of that was for his indiscretions and his sleazy perception. So he is an example of something that Tiger would hope to avoid, right?

[King of New York]

I bet that Tiger's new role model is going to be Elliot Spitzer.

Like Spitzer, he's going to drop out of sight for oh, say, half a year to a year, and then he'll launch his orchestrated comeback. I have no doubt that Tiger's PR people are scripting the rollout already. If Spitzer pulled it off, it should be a piece of cake for Tiger.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by King of New York

I bet that Tiger's new role model is going to be Elliot Spitzer.

Like Spitzer, he's going to drop out of sight for oh, say, half a year to a year, and then he'll launch his orchestrated comeback. I have no doubt that Tiger's PR people are scripting the rollout already. If Spitzer pulled it off, it should be a piece of cake for Tiger.

I don't see him dropping out of sight the way Spitzer did. The "trashpress" won't let it happen. I don't think that Spitzer's situation is the same as Tiger's.

[Marmel]

He'll be back for the Masters in April.

[k0ruptr]

I think its a bad idea to take a break. I think golf will help him through all of this honestly, I mean Being in a tournament, mentally, and physically trying to win; where is his mind going to be? on the golf course. Obviously of course he is going to need time to soul search, figure shit out and all that. But imo there are times hes going to need to focus on the one thing hes known for all his life. Golf. Just for his mind to take a break from all this shitstorm hes created. thats just my opinion.

[RainMaker]

Bill Simmons had a two-part piece today that really sums it up well. This is much bigger than just a two-week media frenzy. This is going to be a huge story and one of the biggest ones we've seen in years. You have arguably the most famous athlete in the world today caught in a huge scandal that involves sex, drugs, and violence.

Bill Simmons on the Tiger Woods saga - ESPN

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

You can talk your way out of an affair, but what the hell can Tiger say to get out of bagging a seemingly endless number of women?

Don't think sorry will cut it eh?

[JPhillips]

I was only hiking the Appalachian Trail.

and visiting Yosemite,

and walking the Pilgrim's Path,

and sailing to Aruba,

and climbing Mt. Ranier,

and...

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Marmel

He'll be back for the Masters in April.

+1

[fantom1979]

PS: This is real.. Horrible timing

[molson]

Biggest Sports story of the decade (according to Bill Simmons)? Really?

I can understand why the entertainment tonight crowd loves this story, but we're still just talking about a pro athlete repeatedly cheating on his wife. I think we're pretty naive as a society still about this.

I mean, before this story broke, if you had to answer this question (and you win a prize if you guess right): Tiger Woods has cheated on his wife? What would say? Or what about, Tiger Woods has cheated on his wife with at least 7 different women? I would have guessed yes to both.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by molson

Biggest Sports story of the decade (according to Bill Simmons)? Really?

All the other stuff you wrote makes sense, but I don't see what it has to do with this being a big story.

What do you think will be looked at as a bigger story? The only thing that could be looked at as bigger would be steroids, but that doesn't pass your "are you really shocked?" test either.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Logan

All the other stuff you wrote makes sense, but I don't see what it has to do with this being a big story.

What do you think will be looked at as a bigger story? The only thing that could be looked at as bigger would be steroids, but that doesn't pass your "are you really shocked?" test either.

You're right, I can't really disagree at all with the reality of this being one of (or the) biggest story of the decade. I guess I'm just reacting with surprise that that's the case.

[lerriuqs]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Where are all the people who said this would not have an impact on his legacy?

See below. Regardless of how this plays out - his legacy as a golfer will be all that people talk about in 50 years from now assuming he beats the records. If this brings him down and he never golfs again - that's about the only way this ruins his golf career and legacy. Of course there will still be people like you that bring it up, but they will be in the minority on the subject.

Originally Posted by jeff061

It won't.

Originally Posted by jeff061

Well unless he quits or starts sucking. I don't see that happening though.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Logan

All the other stuff you wrote makes sense, but I don't see what it has to do with this being a big story.

What do you think will be looked at as a bigger story? The only thing that could be looked at as bigger would be steroids, but that doesn't pass your "are you really shocked?" test either.

I think the Donaghy story is the biggest and most underreported story of the decade.

The thing with this story is that it's not just about him having an affair. It's countless women, a weird accident that makes no sense, and the likelihood of it being a DUI. Throw on top that Tiger Woods is one of the most vanilla athletes of our time and the least likely culprit.

[jbergey22]

This news does get annoying. He cheated he messed up. Do we(society) really need to dig up information a new woman every day. Does it really matter if it was 1 or 700, he messed up either way?

It makes him look like a scumbag but really how many athletes arent this way?

They are entertainers and personally I enjoy them for that. I never pretended any of them a great people and I think the majority are probably pricks in one way or another. As long as they can still entertain me Im not going to judge them on their personal issues. Maybe I just realize no one is perfect and "normal" people a chance to fix their mistakes so I think its wrong to not give famous people that same opportunity without throwing them under a bus.

Roger Federer always seems like a class act in how he handles himself on and off the court but in all likelyhood he isnt perfect either. You become a great athlete by having a certain personality traits that are also traits of some huge scumbags. Bold, Driven, Stubborn, Arrogant, Manipulative and the list goes on.

The one trait that great athletes also have that will help him out of this is resilience.

[Senator]

Tiger reminds me of a young Mitch Cumstein.

[JohnnyBGood]

If you all only knew what Phil Mickelson was up to. Can't wait till that one breaks.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

This news does get annoying. He cheated he messed up. Do we(society) really need to dig up information a new woman every day. Does it really matter if it was 1 or 700, he messed up either way?

It makes him look like a scumbag but really how many athletes arent this way?

They are entertainers and personally I enjoy them for that. I never pretended any of them a great people and I think the majority are probably pricks in one way or another. As long as they can still entertain me Im not going to judge them on their personal issues. Maybe I just realize no one is perfect and "normal" people a chance to fix their mistakes so I think its wrong to not give famous people that same opportunity without throwing them under a bus.

Roger Federer always seems like a class act in how he handles himself on and off the court but in all likelyhood he isnt perfect either. You become a great athlete by having a certain personality traits that are also traits of some huge scumbags. Bold, Driven, Stubborn, Arrogant, Manipulative and the list goes on.

The one trait that great athletes also have that will help him out of this is resilience.

The thing is that the same thing that drives this media frenzy is the same thing that has made him a global icon that enjoys the spoils of making millions upon millions of dollars. You can't have it both ways in this scenario.

Tiger wants to have the emotional stories about his Father playing when he wins a tournament. He wants to hug his wife with tears in his eyes and hold up his kids and kiss them. He wants to sit down and give interviews when he has a new video game coming out or product to endorse. The reason he makes all this money is because people do care about his life.

So while I believe it is kind of dirty to be digging into someone's life, it's also a story because of who he is and who he has build himself up to be. He chose to be in the limelight and to become a celebrity. He chose to get married and have kids. He also chose to sleep with every other female on the planet is appears. If Tiger Woods doesn't want people reporting on this or caring about this, he shouldn't put himself out there like he does.

You can't use the media to make yourself uber-rich and then bash them when they report on something you don't like. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

[Shkspr]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood

If you all only knew what Phil Mickelson was up to.

240?

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by Ryan S

Tiger needs to learn a few lessons from A-Rod. Once the story was out there he admitted it publicly and took the heat in TV interviews and press conferences. Less than a year later he is a world champion who has shed his playoff choker tag, and he is dating a movie star.

The longer Tiger leaves it before surfacing, the more difficult it will be for him.

Totally agree. The sooner he golfs again, the better. Until then the media can endlessly ramp up to "his first tournament since..."

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Senator

Tiger reminds me of a young Mitch Cumstein.

Night putting with the 15 year old daughter of the dean.

[Racer]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood

If you all only knew what Phil Mickelson was up to. Can't wait till that one breaks.

That he and his wife were/are rumored to be swingers? Don't think that's as bad as cheating on your wife behind her back.

[Sun Tzu]

This whole thing is idiotic. The way this story has blown up is a perfect example of how socially retarded the USA has become.

Way to go America.

[sooner333]

Accenture drops Tiger as a sponsor. Apparently he didn't help me use Accenture, because I don't know what they do other than sponsor Tiger and various WGC events.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by sooner333

Apparently he didn't help me use Accenture, because I don't know what they do other than sponsor Tiger and various WGC events.

Unless you're an extremely large corporation or government entity looking for consulting services or help with outsourcing, odds are you really don't have to know.

[sooner333]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Unless you're an extremely large corporation or government entity looking for consulting services or help with outsourcing, odds are you really don't have to know.

Then why does it pay for them to pay Tiger a bunch of money? I've never really understood why companies with no interaction with the general public sponsor things. Basically if I need to know who they are, I will already know because of my job and their qualifications?

[Ryan S]

Originally Posted by sooner333

Then why does it pay for them to pay Tiger a bunch of money? I've never really understood why companies with no interaction with the general public sponsor things. Basically if I need to know who they are, I will already know because of my job and their qualifications?

It gives them access to players for corporate events or hospitality at tournaments they sponsor. This will be used to try to impress potential clients.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by sooner333

Then why does it pay for them to pay Tiger a bunch of money? I've never really understood why companies with no interaction with the general public sponsor things. Basically if I need to know who they are, I will already know because of my job and their qualifications?

It's generally considered to have been one of the better/more effective corporate relationships out there, as Accenture (until the last quarter or so) had actually seen their business grow during the recent slump while others in the sector were having tougher times. It's something that made them stand out from among the crowd, as well as what Ryan S mentioned.

Never underestimate just how shallow an edge needs to be in order to turn into a significant competitive advantage. Hell, over half the budget I'm spending in 2010 for a current client is based on which reps get the decision maker better golf outings. The vendor doesn't have a better product, it's overpriced, it underdelivers, but as long as the person with the final say so gets several good personal trips a year, I have to tread lightly & buy his crap.

[Young Drachma]

Tiger Woods Does Not Have 11 "Mistresses"

[Glengoyne]

Originally Posted by Samdari

So the one who couldn't send dirty pictures because she was at work - I am guessing she's NOT the porn star.

You know, this stable of so many women in so many cities kind of indicates he had the talent to play in the NBA.

I was looking for an opportunity to drop in a Sean Kemp reference.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Tiger Woods Does Not Have 11 "Mistresses"

"Although mistress does not seem to fit the bill for Tiger's ladies, there is no obvious alternative. Girlfriend usually implies an ongoing relationship, as does lover, which is in any case regarded by many media outlets as a bit too explicit. There are also expressions, often slangy, for the relationship itself, including affair (which can, but does not always, imply a continuing relationship), one-night stand, or hookup. These expressions, however, or more circumlocutory descriptions ("a woman with whom Tiger Woods had an affair"), are clunky and therefore not appropriate for headlines."

I would like to suggest "fuck toy".

(ok...maybe that's not really appropriate for headlines either)

[Fidatelo]

I think Tiger's women should be referred to in golf parlance based on the number of times he slept with them. Let's set par at 4, giving us this scale:

1: Hole-In-One
2: Eagle
3: Birdie
4: Par
5: Bogey
6: Double-bogey
>6: Mistress

"A woman with whom Tiger Woods scored a Hole-In-One" or perhaps "Tiger Woods Latest: New Birdie Comes Forward".

[Eaglesfan27]

I think it was on msnbc's site (or some similar major news network) where I read earlier today that Elin was seen without her ring this weekend in public and there is speculation that she will file for divorce soon.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I think it was on msnbc's site (or some similar major news network) where I read earlier today that Elin was seen without her ring this weekend in public and there is speculation that she will file for divorce soon.

I just don't see how that marriage can survive. She just needs to take her 9 figure settlement and move on. He's not worth keeping, especially given the payout she'd receive and that custody is a shoe-in for her.

[Young Drachma]

Maybe LeBron knew something Tiger didn't with not getting married.

[CraigSca]

Well, Tiger is ten years older, and Lebron is only 24.