It Has Begun - NFL Week 1

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Eagles are going to win the Super Bowl.

Lets not get crazy. A few years ago the Dolphins unveiled the wildcat and hung 50 on the PAts and everyone went nuts. NFL coaches will figure this out and there is no way the Eagles can run this tempo and not get banged up.

[Dutch]

haha...that was a goofy assed slow mo of RGIII colliding with Pierre Gascon.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

He's still not a good QB, but this offense is going to make it look like he is.

Eagles are going to win the Super Bowl.

Yeah let's not get crazy now.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Lets not get crazy. A few years ago the Dolphins unveiled the wildcat and hung 50 on the PAts and everyone went nuts. NFL coaches will figure this out and there is no way the Eagles can run this tempo and not get banged up.

The defense will still be fresh come winter though...

[BillJasper]

Washington has eaten up half the quarter with one drive. Kelly doesn't have Whothehellcares State on the other side of the ball. He's not going to get to run 53 plays every half.

[Dutch]

The Redskins eating up half the quarter when down 33-7 isn't exactly impressive.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Mike D

The Redskins eating up half the quarter when down 33-7 isn't exactly impressive.

and then getting nothing to show for it.

[cuervo72]

Yeah but when you're up by 26, you don't care if the other team eats up half a quarter. Especially if they miss a FG.

[Dutch]

Oh, I agree....that's what I'm saying. It's bad business for the Redskins.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Mike D

Oh, I agree....that's what I'm saying. It's bad business for the Redskins.

Oh, I know you know, was meaning in response to Bill (a bit of cross-posting there).

[RedKingGold]

Why do they have that flesh covered tarp on both sidelines. Seems slippery as hell and is begging for an ACL tear a la Jamal Charles.

[ColtCrazy]

This is just a fun offense to watch. I hope the rest of the season is as good as Week 1.


Side fantasy note: i drafted Vick to pick up Caepernick. Time to shop Vick around and see what I can get.

[Dutch]

I almost started RGIII instead of Kap in my primary league....glad I dodged that bullet!

[Matthean]

It will be interesting to see Philly run this offense when they play at Denver.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Why do they have that flesh covered tarp on both sidelines. Seems slippery as hell and is begging for an ACL tear a la Jamal Charles.

Probably better than the FedEx turf.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Yeah but when you're up by 26, you don't care if the other team eats up half a quarter. Especially if they miss a FG.

All I know is that I've seen so many schemes that were suppose to revolutionize the game and each one got figured out. The Wildcat, the Run-n-Shoot, the no-huddle, the "46" defense and so on...

So far it is impressive, but not every team is going to come out and lay as big an offensive egg as Washington did tonight. So I'm going to wait before I declare the Eagles Super Bowl champs.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

All I know is that I've seen so many schemes that were suppose to revolutionize the game and each one got figured out. The Wildcat, the Run-n-Shoot, the no-huddle, the "46" defense and so on...

So far it is impressive, but not every team is going to come out and lay as big an offensive egg as Washington did tonight. So I'm going to wait before I declare the Eagles Super Bowl champs.

Nobody figured out the Pro Formation either...until today apparently.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

All I know is that I've seen so many schemes that were suppose to revolutionize the game and each one got figured out. The Wildcat, the Run-n-Shoot, the no-huddle, the "46" defense and so on...

So far it is impressive, but not every team is going to come out and lay as big an offensive egg as Washington did tonight. So I'm going to wait before I declare the Eagles Super Bowl champs.

Oh, absolutely. And really I'm counting on that, so WAS, SF aren't unstoppable.

[Logan]

Big TD celebration when you're still down 20. Nice job Al Morris.

[spleen1015]

COMEBACK!

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Logan

Big TD celebration when you're still down 20. Nice job Al Morris.

Nice job every other football player that scores a TD when their team is down 20.

[Dutch]

Eagles #79 pushed Washington #56 out of bounds, OMG, I want a 2 game suspension!!!!! No penalty either. Vindicated!

[cuervo72]

Not nearly over.

[Dutch]

If the Eagles already shot their load and we watch a Redskins comeback...

[cuervo72]

DC radio will be insufferable if that happens.

[BillJasper]

Vick is limping already and we're in the 4th quarter of the first game. Hope Nick Foles is ready.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Mike D

If the Eagles already shot their load and we watch a Redskins comeback...

Redskins going for the rope-a-dope?

[cuervo72]

I feel like the Eagles are going to need another score.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

Vick is limping already and we're in the 4th quarter of the first game. Hope Nick Foles is ready.

I joked with someone that the Redskins kept Pat White in order to trade him to the Eagles after Vick goes down in Week 2...

[Julio Riddols]

Really like the fight Washington is showing here.

[Julio Riddols]

Williams has played some ball tonight.

[Shkspr]

Chip Kelly delay of game? That's unpossible!

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Really like the fight Washington is showing here.

I feel like this is what the Eagles pulled a lot under Reid, though. Come out guns a-blazin', but make a couple key mistakes, let a team hang around, and then fade down the stretch and lose the game. Other teams I can feel like ok - 19pt game, 4Q - it's over. Never with these guys. Some of that is pessimism because they're my team I'm sure, but some is that they just don't have a killer instinct and can't run out the clock.

[Julio Riddols]

It does seem like Kelly took the foot off the gas from an offensive standpoint in the second half. Not sure I understand it much.

[Bigsmooth]

Berman and Dilfer. Yikes.

[ColtCrazy]

I've heard Berman do baseball before….and he sounds like he's doing baseball here. Ouch. And I like him in the studio with Jackson….not so much here.

[bhlloy]

Dilferdoesn'tstoptalkingeverandit'sjustarandomstreamofthoughtsandyouhavenoideawhathe'sgoingonaboutbytheend

Usually I'd be all in favor of anything that keeps Berman quiet but it's just painful to listen to

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

It does seem like Kelly took the foot off the gas from an offensive standpoint in the second half. Not sure I understand it much.

It's the NFL - we don't really want McCoy running the ball 40 times do we?

[spleen1015]

Gonna have to mute the tv to watch this second game.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Gonna have to mute the tv to watch this second game.

Heh - I have actually had it on mute to hear the WAS post-game show.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Bigsmooth

Berman and Dilfer. Yikes.

Yea, I had to turn it off.

Berman was brutal to listen to and I generally like him.

[Lathum]

Still better than mike and mike.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

It's the NFL - we don't really want McCoy running the ball 40 times do we?

I'd be ok with it, haha.

[Dutch]

I can't watch this old-school football. I'm going to bed. Wake me up when the rest of the NFL has Chip Kelly. Later!

[Julio Riddols]

Philip Rivers may have his mojo back.

[Abe Sargent]

I don't understand what just happened

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by TroyF

1) It is time to change the precedent. I'm sorry, but I don't care what a suspension was 2 years ago, last year or 25 years ago. There needs to be a massive change in how this stuff is handled. Dive parallel to the ground at a guy 3 yards out of bounds? Ummm, yeah, you get a game or two off. You also get ejected from the game.

At some point, you stop talking about player safety and you lay down the hammer to any player who isn't concerned about the safety of the other players. I think the time is now. I love what the college game is doing and think the NFL should follow suit.

2) While you may think you are a live target until your toe hits the out of bounds line, that is not the way it is explained in the rule book.

I'm not arguing what's in the rule book - if that's the rule, call it (did anyone ever find a public link to the full NFL rulebook?), but I'm arguing what I feel should be a penalty. I'm 100% with you on player safety, but I think that players protecting themselves (in this case until they're out of bounds, but also things like not allowing the runner to lower his helmet) is part of it. I don't think asking defensive players to make a judgment call on whether a player is "giving himself up" is realistic (and can remember more than one play where a defender slowed up and the QB took advantage by running for more yards), but I think it is 100% realistic for them to see if the player has taken a step or two out of bounds. (And, again, I do think Matthews should be suspended even though "late hits" usually don't have suspensions, because I think it's clear that he had an intent to injure Kaepernick. And no, I don't have 100% certainty on that, but under Goodell's NFL he's shown he doesn't need the same burden of proof a court of law does.)

Fwiw, maybe I just watch more SEC than other college football, but I highly doubt either of those would be called late hits in most of the college games I see - if anything that league in particular allows more late/high hits than the NFL.

PS - I do also agree that they should move teams further back from the sidelines, and get rid of those stupid tarps that multiple players keep slipping on after they run out of bounds.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Philip Rivers may have his mojo back.

Until the game was on the line. All too familiar

[fantom1979]

Berman is calling a tied game in the 4th quarter like it is a preseason blowout. He is extremely boring to listen to. I am amazed that this is the same guy that I used to love on NFL Countdown in the 90s.

[Abe Sargent]

Great game