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Normal transition of power. He meets with Biden, stays until 1/20, comes to inauguration, etc. | 5 | 5.56% | |
He doesn't fight the result, but resigns prior to the inauguration. | 2 | 2.22% | |
He fights the result but gives up shortly before the inauguration (let's define "shortly" as "some time after the EC meets on 12/14") | 30 | 33.33% | |
He fights the result all the way to January 20th. Has to be physically removed. | 12 | 13.33% | |
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up and resigns before the inauguration | 6 | 6.67% | |
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up an then we have a normal transition as per option 1. | 30 | 33.33% | |
Other. (You know you gotta specify this one.) | 5 | 5.56% | |
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08-23-2022, 12:51 PM | #5901 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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I thought I read something on twitter that they filed this in a court that had no claim to jurisdiction. I don't know if that's right, but it wouldn't surprise me that went for judge first, legalities second (or not at all).
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08-23-2022, 01:01 PM | #5902 |
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Yeah same district in Florida, but no doubt he was judge shopping to try to get one more favorable to him and from what I've seen-she's far-right Federalist Society type judge
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08-23-2022, 03:35 PM | #5903 |
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I'm not a lawyer, but I'd be pretty damned embarrassed if I was and a judge wrote this:
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08-23-2022, 06:18 PM | #5904 |
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I liked this reaction:
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08-23-2022, 09:37 PM | #5905 |
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2 of the pieces of crap that tried to kidnap Mich Gov Whitmer get dunked on. But of course their POS lawyers are complaining there was a bad juror after a previous case had a hung jury and an acquittal |
08-23-2022, 09:57 PM | #5906 | |
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I'm actually surprised the state got the conviction. I didn't follow the trial this time around, but I wonder how the state got around entrapment accusations. Or maybe the jury just didn't care.
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08-24-2022, 01:30 AM | #5907 |
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Upon retrial, two Michigan militia ringleaders are convicted of plotting to kidnap Gov. Whitmer
also trump called the whitmer plot a complete fake earlier this month so...hey look! trump is a piece of shit! |
08-24-2022, 11:55 AM | #5908 |
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That's solid. I know nothing about why this is how it is, but the idea of that is great. So I really, really, hope it's accurate.
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08-24-2022, 12:33 PM | #5909 |
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Dershowitz foreshadowed this a bit. He was explaining last week or the week before that Trump can't find competent attorneys because no one wants the case. He was kind of alluding to potential competence issues with who he ended up with.
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08-24-2022, 12:39 PM | #5910 | |
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I thought it was because the lawyers wanted to actually get paid.
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08-24-2022, 12:47 PM | #5911 |
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Two things that lawyers tend to prefer, all things being equal, are (1) getting paid, and (2) a client who will take their advice.
So, yeah, lawyers with options don't want to work for a guy famous for not paying people and for never taking any advice he does not want to hear. |
08-24-2022, 12:49 PM | #5912 | |
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08-24-2022, 05:46 PM | #5913 |
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My conspiracy theory:
So, if the news is correct that he had special access program materials, can we assume that anything that takes place at Area 51 would fall under those kinds of protections? Maybe those documents prove there aren't aliens and he wanted to be able to show friends what really goes on out there? |
08-24-2022, 07:37 PM | #5914 | |
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Maybe that's the only way he can get people to come over to his place. It's like the nerdy guy with a swimming pool who gets a lot of new friends every summer. |
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08-24-2022, 08:08 PM | #5915 |
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Trump's Truth Social post tonight suggesting McConnell and his should both be arrested was cryptic and interesting. I still think what he had was blackmail information in a number of Republicans, along with valuable state secrets he can sell.
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08-25-2022, 12:20 AM | #5916 |
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It would be so on brand for Trump to have had this shit, whatever it is, for that long and not made digital copies, wouldn't it ?
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08-25-2022, 12:31 AM | #5917 |
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So what actually happens if Trump starts sharing secrets on his social media? Maybe he loses 5% of his supporters when 95% just double down on how smart it is?
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08-25-2022, 12:53 AM | #5918 | |
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He's been calling for anyone he doesn't like to be arrested for like 6 years now. I think if he had any dirt, he'd have put it out by now. I'm probably wrong but I just think he wanted the documents to brag. He's an insane narcissist and probably got a kick out of showing some divorced lawyers and ex-golfers at his club top secret documents. Lets be honest, the guy watches cable news and golfs all day. He isn't exactly bringing riveting conversation to the dinner party. |
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08-25-2022, 01:10 AM | #5919 | |
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i think you're right on all counts. His shouting for the documents back is just a mcguffin to incite more "outrage" |
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08-25-2022, 01:11 AM | #5920 |
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08-25-2022, 06:14 AM | #5921 |
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Hope this becomes a thing (MAGA loosers telling their followers to not vote for the Rep candidate).
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08-25-2022, 06:49 AM | #5922 |
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This is the shit that must keep McConnell, McCarthy, etc up at night. They created this and now can’t control it and I am here for all of it.
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08-25-2022, 07:12 AM | #5923 |
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McCarthy? I think he likes this shit
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08-25-2022, 07:21 AM | #5924 |
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Is she going to lock herself to one side of the doors in "protest" again?
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08-25-2022, 07:55 AM | #5925 |
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08-25-2022, 09:22 AM | #5926 |
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Someone (his lawyers?) managed to get it through his head that all of the crimes he's been admitting to over the last few weeks might actually be a bad thing. He's always at his most freaked out and least coherent when he's actually nervous about something. |
08-26-2022, 12:36 AM | #5927 |
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MTG's home got swatted apparently. I'm guessing she did it herself :P
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08-26-2022, 02:33 AM | #5928 |
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For something completely different, Jamie Foxx with the best Trump impersonation:
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08-26-2022, 11:51 AM | #5929 |
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The redacted affidavit:
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08-26-2022, 11:55 AM | #5930 |
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I read through it. It absolutely destroys every excuse/defense offered by Trump and his team.
He should 100% go to prison for this. He had all sorts of classified info including TS documents labeled NOFORN out of their folders and mixed in with his press clippings, newspapers, notes, ect. Last edited by Atocep : 08-26-2022 at 11:56 AM. |
08-26-2022, 11:57 AM | #5931 | |
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Wow ... I mean, it's entirely on brand for him Figures that i see a joke floating about without even realizing it is actually out
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08-26-2022, 12:06 PM | #5932 |
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The DOJ wanted to keep this sealed under their policy (which is for the benefit of criminal suspects) to not release incriminating information before charges are filed.
Trump, assuming that if they wanted X, then he should want not-X, moved to unseal it without really thinking about whether he should want it unsealed. So now there's a bunch of stuff out there making him look bad because he demanded it be released. That's a hell of an own goal. |
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08-26-2022, 12:15 PM | #5934 |
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I honestly think that Trump thinks that the Presidential Records Act says that he gets to keep records because he was the President.
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08-26-2022, 12:20 PM | #5936 |
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Ah yes that well known constitutional expert-Rick Astley
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08-26-2022, 12:23 PM | #5937 | |
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The President can not declassify any document. He can declassify most documents but there's still a declassification process since it's not a magic wand. There are things a president can not declassify no matter what he wants or says. Those tend be those of the TS/SCI variety. The people in charge of our national secrets aren't stupid enough to not have safeguards in place for nearly every conceivable thing that could happen. We have classification systems in place based on the potential damage leaks or releases could cause. That doesn't go out the window because the president wants it. Some documents they would probably ignore leakage or mishandling because it's a former president. But when it comes to TS/SCI, NOFORN, SI, ect and were not talking about simple mishandling we're talking about these documents being stored in his home like they're just memorabilia. He should go to prison based on just the unredacted parts of that affidavit. 100% |
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08-26-2022, 01:17 PM | #5938 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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I swear I saw this as a Netflix documentary...
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08-26-2022, 01:52 PM | #5939 |
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He had a bunch of stuff on "clandestine human sources"
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08-26-2022, 02:00 PM | #5940 |
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It's totally amusing that in that picture they've shopped out Lindsey Graham, who appears when you load the story.
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08-26-2022, 02:35 PM | #5941 | |
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This is going to be the counter argument.
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08-26-2022, 04:17 PM | #5942 |
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One of Trumps lawyers just said "Everything President Trump had was covered by the Presidential Records Act. So this couldn't be a crime under the Presidential Records Act because there are none!" They really do believe the Presidential Records Act means he gets to keep his records.
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08-26-2022, 05:03 PM | #5943 |
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They're basically arguing that the office of the president is so powerful, and that the person in that office has so much authority that any decision they make, is legal, and that they have full authority, to bypass any process, option, or legal avenue to do any of the other stuff that you say he did or didn't do. That's basically it. It's Bannon's supreme executive authority to the nth degree.
The kicker is that there are people out there who are like, 'you know, that makes complete and total sense, and I think he's completely right'. Good old George Washington was right about the people wanting a king.
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08-26-2022, 05:21 PM | #5944 |
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This story is so bizarre. Apparently, she's been under investigation by Canadian authorities as well. But the big part was that she was outed to the trump people a black music producer who was at Mar-a-lago with Ray J, and another rapper who trump had granted clemency to. What are the odds of that being your go to for counter-intelligence? She had a Ukrainian passport, a Russian passport, a US passport and a fake Canadian passport. Three with different names. Oh, and her dad is a truck driver from Illinois.
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I guess it is along the lines of Inventing Anna.
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08-26-2022, 05:47 PM | #5946 | |
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Unless it's a dem in that office. |
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08-26-2022, 06:05 PM | #5948 |
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If that's the case then they're there illegally. Only possible explanation.
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08-26-2022, 06:05 PM | #5949 |
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Bill Barr is trying to do the sympathetic figure from the Trump administration trying to rehabilitate his image thing.
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08-26-2022, 06:27 PM | #5950 | |
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True, but at least most of Trump's MAGA fanbase is having to come to grips with cold, hard facts. Which is more likely? Trump is delusional and lying, or dozens of former hand picked cabinet members, advisors, attorneys, internal pollsters and family members are lying. There aren't many more left for Trump to throw under the bus. |
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