NFL week 11 thread - Page 11

RainMaker · 11-20-2011, 11:26 PM

I still think it's a lot for Carson Palmer. Especially considering the new labor agreement means you don't have to pay 1st rounders a ton of guaranteed money.

k0ruptr · 11-20-2011, 11:30 PM

Well it really depends if Carson has a few years left in the tank. There a pretty young team with a lot of potential. It could end up being very worth it especially next year when Raiders looking good preseason.

RainMaker · 11-21-2011, 12:42 AM

It is a good young team which is why I found it odd they gave up so much for a 31 year old QB. If Palmer plays well for 3-4 more years, it's a nice move I guess, but I think first rounders are valuable under this new system and they might be better off grooming a younger guy for the spot through the draft. Or going out and grabbing a guy like Matt Flynn this offseason.

While I thought Oakland was putting together a nice season, I didn't see them contending in the AFC and just figure they'd be better off going young.

stevew · 11-21-2011, 12:59 AM

Chicago should call Favre

tucker rocky · 11-21-2011, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Chicago should call Favre

What about Vinny Testeverde?

Danny · 11-21-2011, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

It is a good young team which is why I found it odd they gave up so much for a 31 year old QB. If Palmer plays well for 3-4 more years, it's a nice move I guess, but I think first rounders are valuable under this new system and they might be better off grooming a younger guy for the spot through the draft. Or going out and grabbing a guy like Matt Flynn this offseason.

While I thought Oakland was putting together a nice season, I didn't see them contending in the AFC and just figure they'd be better off going young.

Palmer is only 31, not old at all. They made the right call going out and getting him. At least half of first rounders bust. If you have the chance to get the Palmer of old, it's an easy decision. Of course, we didn't know we were getting that Palmer initially, but in hindsight it looks good. The AFC is wide open. If Palmer continues his improved play, Mcfadden stays healthy and they get on a run, they could take the AFC.

stevew · 11-21-2011, 01:55 AM

*Afc West. Let's not get Faider delusions of grandeur going.

SackAttack · 11-21-2011, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

*Afc West. Let's not get Faider delusions of grandeur going.

I think the AFC is as open this year as it's been in the last 5-7. I'm not convinced the Raiders have the talent outside of QB to take it.

JPhillips · 11-21-2011, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

It is a good young team which is why I found it odd they gave up so much for a 31 year old QB. If Palmer plays well for 3-4 more years, it's a nice move I guess, but I think first rounders are valuable under this new system and they might be better off grooming a younger guy for the spot through the draft. Or going out and grabbing a guy like Matt Flynn this offseason.

While I thought Oakland was putting together a nice season, I didn't see them contending in the AFC and just figure they'd be better off going young.

With free agency and injuries I don't think there's much point to looking more than three or four years down the road. You have to maximize your current opportunities.

Butter · 11-21-2011, 08:36 AM

I want the Raiders to win a playoff game this year. Let's go Raiders!!!

JPhillips · 11-21-2011, 08:38 AM

I either want the Raiders to get to the AFC Championship or crater.

BillJasper · 11-21-2011, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

With free agency and injuries I don't think there's much point to looking more than three or four years down the road. You have to maximize your current opportunities.

This.

If you like your current teams chances but are lacking an essential piece, why not go "all in"? I think the Raiders have a lot of nice pieces but even if they made the playoffs I didn't see Jason Campbell doing anything but orchestrating an early exit.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-21-2011, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Oh, and the Bears are really, really good. I think they could be the best team in the NFC right now.

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

6-8 weeks for Cutler, word is.

So he'd be back in time for the playoffs, IF Hanie can actually get them there. Yeesh.

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

This is horrible news. Bears were really looking great lately and that offense was even putting up some points. Lovie has commented it's the best team he's had here in Chicago.

I still think they can go 3-3 without Cutler with the remaining schedule. Hanie has at least been in the system for awhile and seems to have a knack for making plays when he gets in. But without Cutler in the playoffs, I don't think they stand a chance.

Is this the RedKingGold curse?

JediKooter · 11-21-2011, 10:39 AM

YESsssss!! Keep them losses coming Norv Turner. The sooner you are gone the better.

So the Chargers just got through a 5 game stretch that I said they could very likely go 1-4, but, instead they went 0-5. The team has clearly taken on the personality of the head coach which is about as exciting and motivating as Droopy Dog.

The next 5 games:
Denver
Jacksonville
Buffalo
Baltimore
Detroit

Looks another possible 1-4 stretch, however, they could just as easily go 0-5 again. With the way this team plays, it's hard to say which one of those five teams they'll beat, but, it's more than likely Denver or Buffalo. They won't beat Baltimore unless half the Ravens defense is out.

DanGarion · 11-21-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

I love my 49ers, but don't want to jinx them just yet.

By the way, 49ers-Steelers is going to be insane.

I wish my best friend lived here still I could kick his ass after the Niners kick theirs.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-21-2011, 11:04 AM

The Dec. 4th Lions/Saints game has been moved to NBC's Sunday Night game.

First time the Lions have ever played on Sunday night since it moved to NBC.

I believe the last time they played on Sunday was in 2005 against the Packers where they got totally jobbed out of a victory when Samkon Gado threw an "incomplete pass" when he was getting tackled for a safety.

It's the old wounds. They never heal properly.

Desnudo · 11-21-2011, 09:02 PM

Tom Brady - we don't need the TD that bad

Grover · 11-21-2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I either want the Raiders to get to the AFC Championship or crater.

This.

I want two firsts for Palmer.

DaddyTorgo · 11-21-2011, 09:34 PM

NO FLAGS!!!

EDELMAN!!! 72 YD RETURN FOR A TD!!!!

BEAUTY!!!!

EagleFan · 11-21-2011, 09:35 PM

What did I miss at the start of this game? Since I turned the game on the Patriots have scored every time they touched the ball.

Abe Sargent · 11-21-2011, 09:35 PM

Well, that's not a game anymore

DaddyTorgo · 11-21-2011, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

What did I miss at the start of this game? Since I turned the game on the Patriots have scored every time they touched the ball.

Romeo threw out some defenses that confused #12 for the first 22 minutes or so of the game, but since he's got it figured out it seems to be over.

Grover · 11-21-2011, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

What did I miss at the start of this game? Since I turned the game on the Patriots have scored every time they touched the ball.

Chiefs DL was getting excellent pressure for the first few series'... obviously that is not the case any longer.

DaddyTorgo · 11-21-2011, 09:38 PM

LMAO

And Edelman makes the tackle on kick coverage.

EagleFan · 11-21-2011, 09:55 PM

Isn't that the QB from The Replacements?

DaddyTorgo · 11-21-2011, 09:56 PM

Hey...Palko's actually thrown a couple decent balls.

Given the Pats have a nobody-secondary tonight, but he's not HORRIBLE. His two picks were both bad tips by receivers.

Abe Sargent · 11-21-2011, 10:03 PM

At this point, I'm going to turn off my tv and watch Godzilla vs Astro-Monster, which is in my DVD player and ready to get a spin.

Julio Riddols · 11-21-2011, 10:12 PM

Stupid Gronkowski costing me a game in the fantasy league.

jbergey22 · 11-21-2011, 10:36 PM

Chiefs calling timeouts down 24 late in the 4th then acting pissed when the Pats add another TD. Kind of funny. Dont call the timeouts and they dont score again.

Danny · 11-22-2011, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Stupid Gronkowski costing me a game in the fantasy league.

Gronkowski saved me in a league and I won by 0.60 points. A welcome relief after having already lost two games by less than a point and another by less than 2.

molson · 11-22-2011, 09:45 AM

This is a pretty interesting site for NFL playoff scenarios

http://playoffstatus.com/nfl/nfl.html

So the Colts are still alive for the #6 playoff spot in the AFC - but they'll be eliminated next week if any of the following happen:

Case 1
Bengals beat the Browns
Case 2
Panthers beat the Colts
Case 3
Titans beat the Buccaneers, and
Jaguars beat the Texans
Case 4
Titans beat the Buccaneers, and
Bills beat the Jets
Case 5
Chiefs beat the Steelers, and
Titans beat the Buccaneers
Case 6
Chiefs beat the Steelers, and
Jaguars beat the Texans
Case 7
Broncos beat the Chargers, and
Dolphins beat the Cowboys, and
Titans beat the Buccaneers
Case 8
Dolphins beat the Cowboys, and
Jaguars beat the Texans, and
Bills beat the Jets
Case 9
Broncos beat the Chargers, and
Dolphins beat the Cowboys, and
Jaguars beat the Texans
Case 10
Broncos beat the Chargers, and
Chiefs beat the Steelers, and
Dolphins beat the Cowboys
Case 11
Raiders beat the Bears, and
Broncos beat the Chargers, and
Titans beat the Buccaneers
Case 12
Raiders beat the Bears, and
Jaguars beat the Texans, and
Bills beat the Jets
Case 13
Broncos beat the Chargers, and
Jaguars beat the Texans, and
Bills beat the Jets
Case 14
Raiders beat the Bears, and
Broncos beat the Chargers, and
Jaguars beat the Texans
Case 15
Raiders beat the Bears, and
Broncos beat the Chargers, and
Bills beat the Jets
Case 16
Raiders beat the Bears, and
Broncos beat the Chargers, and
Chiefs beat the Steelers

Logan · 11-22-2011, 10:02 AM

Rizon · 11-22-2011, 10:13 AM

FALCO AIN'T SHIT WITHOUT FRANKLIN

gstelmack · 11-22-2011, 11:05 AM

I really, really, really want to see the Panthers roll over for the Colts, then the Colts own the tiebreaker and the Panthers get the #1 pick, then trade it to some team who REALLY needs a QB.

Galaril · 11-22-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

So you mean I got a chance!

stevew · 11-22-2011, 11:07 AM

H2H is not a tiebreaker for the first pick. It is strength of schedule(worst sched opponents).

More specifically strength of defeat I believe.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 11-22-2011, 11:31 AM

gstelmack · 11-22-2011, 11:32 AM

Well that destroys my plan...

bulletsponge · 11-22-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

I really, really, really want to see the Panthers roll over for the Colts, then the Colts own the tiebreaker and the Panthers get the #1 pick, then trade it to some team who REALLY needs a QB.

+1000000

the Colts dont deserve a prospect like Luck after Manning, including the tank job they did this year

11-20-2011, 11:30 PM	#502
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11-21-2011, 08:36 AM	#511
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11-21-2011, 08:38 AM	#512
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11-21-2011, 10:39 AM	#515
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11-21-2011, 11:04 AM	#517
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11-20-2011, 11:26 PM	#501
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I still think it's a lot for Carson Palmer. Especially considering the new labor agreement means you don't have to pay 1st rounders a ton of guaranteed money.

11-21-2011, 12:42 AM	#503
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	It is a good young team which is why I found it odd they gave up so much for a 31 year old QB. If Palmer plays well for 3-4 more years, it's a nice move I guess, but I think first rounders are valuable under this new system and they might be better off grooming a younger guy for the spot through the draft. Or going out and grabbing a guy like Matt Flynn this offseason. While I thought Oakland was putting together a nice season, I didn't see them contending in the AFC and just figure they'd be better off going young.

11-21-2011, 12:59 AM	#504
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Chicago should call Favre

11-21-2011, 01:55 AM	#508
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	*Afc West. Let's not get Faider delusions of grandeur going.

11-21-2011, 09:02 PM	#518
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Tom Brady - we don't need the TD that bad

11-21-2011, 09:34 PM	#520
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	NO FLAGS!!! EDELMAN!!! 72 YD RETURN FOR A TD!!!! BEAUTY!!!!

11-21-2011, 09:35 PM	#521
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11-21-2011, 09:35 PM	#522
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11-21-2011, 09:38 PM	#525
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	LMAO And Edelman makes the tackle on kick coverage.

11-21-2011, 09:55 PM	#526
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11-21-2011, 09:56 PM	#527
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Hey...Palko's actually thrown a couple decent balls. Given the Pats have a nobody-secondary tonight, but he's not HORRIBLE. His two picks were both bad tips by receivers.

11-21-2011, 10:03 PM	#528
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11-21-2011, 10:12 PM	#529
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11-21-2011, 10:36 PM	#530
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Chiefs calling timeouts down 24 late in the 4th then acting pissed when the Pats add another TD. Kind of funny. Dont call the timeouts and they dont score again.

11-22-2011, 09:45 AM	#532
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	This is a pretty interesting site for NFL playoff scenarios http://playoffstatus.com/nfl/nfl.html So the Colts are still alive for the #6 playoff spot in the AFC - but they'll be eliminated next week if any of the following happen: Case 1 Bengals beat the Browns Case 2 Panthers beat the Colts Case 3 Titans beat the Buccaneers, and Jaguars beat the Texans Case 4 Titans beat the Buccaneers, and Bills beat the Jets Case 5 Chiefs beat the Steelers, and Titans beat the Buccaneers Case 6 Chiefs beat the Steelers, and Jaguars beat the Texans Case 7 Broncos beat the Chargers, and Dolphins beat the Cowboys, and Titans beat the Buccaneers Case 8 Dolphins beat the Cowboys, and Jaguars beat the Texans, and Bills beat the Jets Case 9 Broncos beat the Chargers, and Dolphins beat the Cowboys, and Jaguars beat the Texans Case 10 Broncos beat the Chargers, and Chiefs beat the Steelers, and Dolphins beat the Cowboys Case 11 Raiders beat the Bears, and Broncos beat the Chargers, and Titans beat the Buccaneers Case 12 Raiders beat the Bears, and Jaguars beat the Texans, and Bills beat the Jets Case 13 Broncos beat the Chargers, and Jaguars beat the Texans, and Bills beat the Jets Case 14 Raiders beat the Bears, and Broncos beat the Chargers, and Jaguars beat the Texans Case 15 Raiders beat the Bears, and Broncos beat the Chargers, and Bills beat the Jets Case 16 Raiders beat the Bears, and Broncos beat the Chargers, and Chiefs beat the Steelers Last edited by molson : 11-22-2011 at 09:45 AM.

11-22-2011, 10:02 AM	#533
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11-22-2011, 11:05 AM	#535
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	I really, really, really want to see the Panthers roll over for the Colts, then the Colts own the tiebreaker and the Panthers get the #1 pick, then trade it to some team who REALLY needs a QB. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

11-22-2011, 11:07 AM	#537
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	H2H is not a tiebreaker for the first pick. It is strength of schedule(worst sched opponents). More specifically strength of defeat I believe. Last edited by stevew : 11-22-2011 at 11:52 AM.

11-22-2011, 11:31 AM	#538
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