2008 NFL Draft Thread-Jake Long Goes #1 - Page 11

DeToxRox · 04-26-2008, 05:39 PM

Good pick. Merling is a gamer.

Chief Rum · 04-26-2008, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop

Glad to see a fellow chief get drafted.

Well, I'm fielding calls, but most of the teams say I won't go until tomorrow. What are you hearing?

Eaglesfan27 · 04-26-2008, 05:39 PM

Good value pick for Miami, and it makes sense for Parcells.

Pyser · 04-26-2008, 05:39 PM

maybe the jets were convinced the giants were trading shockey and would go te? i dont get that trade up at all

giants needed a safety, and got one. i guess kiwanuka stays at lb. not terrible.

Swaggs · 04-26-2008, 05:41 PM

Man... Brohm...

Can't believe he is still out there. He will be the posterboy for NOT returning for you senior season. He was a top 5 last year.

DeToxRox · 04-26-2008, 05:41 PM

Ugh. I want Groves to fall to Detroit. He is going to be awesome. I doubt it but I can dream.

Chief Rum · 04-26-2008, 05:41 PM

Thank God the Dolphins didn't waste another high pick on a QB. They're not going to win this year anyway. Give Beck more time and see how he does. Draft a potential guy down the line, like a Dennis Dixon. Re-visit this next year. That's the way to go. And spend high draft talent on positions that aren't almost always automatic reaches in the first two rounds outside of the Top Five (and sometimes there, too).

DeToxRox · 04-26-2008, 05:42 PM

Donnie Avery is the first WR taken!?

TazFTW · 04-26-2008, 05:42 PM

Donnie Avery the first WR?!?!?

Rizon · 04-26-2008, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Thank God the Dolphins didn't waste another high pick on a QB. They're not going to win this year anyway. Give Beck more time and see how he does. Draft a potential guy down the line, like a Dennis Dixon. Re-visit this next year. That's the way to go. And spend high draft talent on positions that aren't almost always automatic reaches in the first two rounds outside of the Top Five (and sometimes there, too).

+1

Arles · 04-26-2008, 05:42 PM

Packers moved #30 for #36 and #113 (mid 4th). Not bad value (esp when you consider the money saved).

Lathum · 04-26-2008, 05:43 PM

Did Mortenson just make a fried chicken and biscuts joke to Keyshawn?

DeToxRox · 04-26-2008, 05:43 PM

In regards to Detroit .. my top guys left I am interested in

Jamal Charles
Quentin Groves
Calias Campbell
Dan Connor
Curtis Lofton

JetsIn06 · 04-26-2008, 05:43 PM

Donnie Avery? WTF?

Pyser · 04-26-2008, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles

Packers moved #30 for #36 and #113 (mid 4th). Not bad value (esp when you consider the money saved).

money saved? $500k total, maybe a million over the life of the deal?

stevew · 04-26-2008, 05:44 PM

what the hell? this is not the best WR avaialble

Noop · 04-26-2008, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Well, I'm fielding calls, but most of the teams say I won't go until tomorrow. What are you hearing?

LOL. He went to the same highschool as Glenn... team mascot was the Chiefs.

Swaggs · 04-26-2008, 05:44 PM

At what point, if any, does Detroit look at QB?

stevew · 04-26-2008, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyser

money saved? $500k total, maybe a million over the life of the deal?

plus they get to renegotiate a year earlier if this guy is any good.

Chief Rum · 04-26-2008, 05:45 PM

Avery? Did I miss something? I don't see him drafted anywhere. Is online slow to update? I have ESPN on, but I'm not really paying attention to it (and it's commercials right now).

st.cronin · 04-26-2008, 05:45 PM

Did the Rams realize that DeSean Jackson wasn't drafted in the first round?

Lathum · 04-26-2008, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Connor would have been a good pick, but I like Phillips here, too. Very solid player to get at the end of the first round.

I love the pick. We have a nice young secondary to go with a monster pass rush, if we can get some LB depth in the next few rounds I would be thriilled.

What I would really love is to see Shockey traded for some picks so we can do that.

DeToxRox · 04-26-2008, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

At what point, if any, does Detroit look at QB?

If Henne falls to them I bet he goes. Scott Loefler, UM's old QB coach and the guy who recruited Henne is now QB Coach in Detroit, and they've been rumored to want to deal up to get him.

Arles · 04-26-2008, 05:45 PM

Wow, great move by the Skins to move down the 2nd and get the WR they probably wanted in round 2.

stevew · 04-26-2008, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

At what point, if any, does Detroit look at QB?

2nd round, last year

Honolulu_Blue · 04-26-2008, 05:45 PM

Just checking in.

Gosder? Gosder Cherlius?

WTF?

DeToxRox · 04-26-2008, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Just checking in.

Gosder? Gosder Cherlius?

WTF?

He'll be an RT. He run blocks well. I was upset at first but considering what happened with OT's after I am not as upset.

PS .. FRANZENSTEIN!!

Chief Rum · 04-26-2008, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop

LOL. He went to the same highschool as Glenn... team mascot was the Chiefs.

Heh, heh...cool. I like that connection, makes me care more about particular players knowing they were close in on someone with the FOFC family.

DeToxRox · 04-26-2008, 05:46 PM

KC has had the best draft. Dorsey, Albert and Flowers.

Eaglesfan27 · 04-26-2008, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Donnie Avery is the first WR taken!?

WTF!?! I go to make a sandwich and I see this when I come back. I didn't even think he was in the top 10 of WR's.

Arles · 04-26-2008, 05:48 PM

Chiefs take CB Flowers. Good value there as well.

TazFTW · 04-26-2008, 05:49 PM

Ah, Thomas is a Rosenhaus guy...

stevew · 04-26-2008, 05:50 PM

The chiefs will be the sexiest 6-10 squad next year.

DeToxRox · 04-26-2008, 05:51 PM

Wow. Packers go WR? Useless pick.

stevew · 04-26-2008, 05:51 PM

Jordy Nelson-LOL

Arles · 04-26-2008, 05:52 PM

WR Jordy Nelson to GB. Not sure what to think of it, but GB has 3 third round picks and they need a speed WR for the slot.

DeToxRox · 04-26-2008, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew

Jordy Nelson-LOL

Matt Millen is smiling somewhere... Or breaking TV's GB took his pick.

Chief Rum · 04-26-2008, 05:53 PM

Yeah, Jackson to the Rams was spot on. Exactly the sorta guy they stick into the slot. I see Avery has speed to burn. Looking at him more closely, I don't see he is much off of what Jackson brings you. Still, to pass up a BCS guy (much less a Sweed or Thomas) for Avery is a shock.

Arles · 04-26-2008, 05:53 PM

Everyone thought Greg Jennings was a wasted pick too. Ted's built a division champ team with the last 3 drafts.

stevew · 04-26-2008, 05:53 PM

I would vote for teams to continue to make reaches....will push another good player to the steelers.

DeToxRox · 04-26-2008, 05:54 PM

So what bad pick does Atlanta make now?

st.cronin · 04-26-2008, 05:54 PM

It really is like the teams drafting WRs don't realize that all the top WRs are still on the board.

Chief Rum · 04-26-2008, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Matt Millen is smiling somewhere... Or breaking TV's GB took his pick.

My guess is the latter.

Swaggs · 04-26-2008, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles

WR Jordy Nelson to GB. Not sure what to think of it, but GB has 3 third round picks and they need a speed WR for the slot.

Unfortunately, it looks like they got a posession receiver/gunner.

Honolulu_Blue · 04-26-2008, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

He'll be an RT. He run blocks well. I was upset at first but considering what happened with OT's after I am not as upset.

PS .. FRANZENSTEIN!!

Tour de chapeau!

I really like that Cody McCleod guy. Smart player.

DeToxRox · 04-26-2008, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles

Everyone thought Greg Jennings was a wasted pick too. Ted's built a division champ team with the last 3 drafts.

I loved Jennings. The problem is GB could do a lot more for their team by getting some more help on D. Dexter Jackson or Renauld from WVU are better options for slot WR's you can get in the 5th or 6th.

DeToxRox · 04-26-2008, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Tour de chapeau!

I really like that Cody McCleod guy. Smart player.

He has a good spirit.

DeToxRox · 04-26-2008, 05:56 PM

Lofton, now Atlanta decides to make a good pick. MF'ers.

Chief Rum · 04-26-2008, 06:00 PM

Long as Detroit fans are around, I have to know.

My view from not being as familiar with them, but generally familiar with the league, is that they would want to improve a defense that was dead last in the NFL. Then I realize they released Kevin Jones (how on Earth did I miss that?!?), so it made sad sense for them to get Mendenhall (defense is awful, but you have just about no one at RB). And then they draft an OL? And you guys are all cool with that?

So that's why I am figuring I must be out of touch with Detroit. Is their line really that phenomenally bad, that they would pass up several good RBs and a slew of strong defensive choices to make a line pick?

Arles · 04-26-2008, 06:00 PM

I stand corrected, GB got a possession guy for the slot to play off the speed of Jennings.

We'll see how the draft plays out but a 6-3, 220 guy with great hands seems like a nice addition for GB - esp when you throw in 2 Punt returns for TDs last season. Here's Scouts.incs writeup:
"While he lacks elite speed and athleticism, Nelson is quicker than people seem to think and he simply knows how to separate and make plays... it wouldn't shock us if Nelson spends 10-plus productive seasons in the NFL as a possession No. 2 or No. 3 receiver."

04-26-2008, 05:39 PM	#503
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Good value pick for Miami, and it makes sense for Parcells. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

04-26-2008, 05:41 PM	#505
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Man... Brohm... Can't believe he is still out there. He will be the posterboy for NOT returning for you senior season. He was a top 5 last year. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-26-2008, 05:41 PM	#507
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Thank God the Dolphins didn't waste another high pick on a QB. They're not going to win this year anyway. Give Beck more time and see how he does. Draft a potential guy down the line, like a Dennis Dixon. Re-visit this next year. That's the way to go. And spend high draft talent on positions that aren't almost always automatic reaches in the first two rounds outside of the Top Five (and sometimes there, too). __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-26-2008, 05:42 PM	#509
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Donnie Avery the first WR?!?!? __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

04-26-2008, 05:42 PM	#511
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Packers moved #30 for #36 and #113 (mid 4th). Not bad value (esp when you consider the money saved). __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

04-26-2008, 05:39 PM	#501
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Good pick. Merling is a gamer.

04-26-2008, 05:39 PM	#504
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	maybe the jets were convinced the giants were trading shockey and would go te? i dont get that trade up at all giants needed a safety, and got one. i guess kiwanuka stays at lb. not terrible.

04-26-2008, 05:41 PM	#506
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Ugh. I want Groves to fall to Detroit. He is going to be awesome. I doubt it but I can dream.

04-26-2008, 05:42 PM	#508
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Donnie Avery is the first WR taken!?

04-26-2008, 05:43 PM	#512
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Did Mortenson just make a fried chicken and biscuts joke to Keyshawn?

04-26-2008, 05:43 PM	#513
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	In regards to Detroit .. my top guys left I am interested in Jamal Charles Quentin Groves Calias Campbell Dan Connor Curtis Lofton

04-26-2008, 05:43 PM	#514
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	Donnie Avery? WTF?

04-26-2008, 05:44 PM	#516
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	what the hell? this is not the best WR avaialble

04-26-2008, 05:44 PM	#518
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	At what point, if any, does Detroit look at QB? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-26-2008, 05:45 PM	#520
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Avery? Did I miss something? I don't see him drafted anywhere. Is online slow to update? I have ESPN on, but I'm not really paying attention to it (and it's commercials right now). __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-26-2008, 05:45 PM	#521
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Did the Rams realize that DeSean Jackson wasn't drafted in the first round? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

04-26-2008, 05:45 PM	#524
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Wow, great move by the Skins to move down the 2nd and get the WR they probably wanted in round 2. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

04-26-2008, 05:45 PM	#526
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Just checking in. Gosder? Gosder Cherlius? WTF? __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

04-26-2008, 05:46 PM	#529
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	KC has had the best draft. Dorsey, Albert and Flowers. Last edited by DeToxRox : 04-26-2008 at 05:49 PM.

04-26-2008, 05:48 PM	#531
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Chiefs take CB Flowers. Good value there as well. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

04-26-2008, 05:49 PM	#532
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Ah, Thomas is a Rosenhaus guy... __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

04-26-2008, 05:50 PM	#533
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	The chiefs will be the sexiest 6-10 squad next year. Last edited by stevew : 04-26-2008 at 05:51 PM.

04-26-2008, 05:51 PM	#534
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Wow. Packers go WR? Useless pick.

04-26-2008, 05:51 PM	#535
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Jordy Nelson-LOL

04-26-2008, 05:52 PM	#536
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	WR Jordy Nelson to GB. Not sure what to think of it, but GB has 3 third round picks and they need a speed WR for the slot. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

04-26-2008, 05:53 PM	#538
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Yeah, Jackson to the Rams was spot on. Exactly the sorta guy they stick into the slot. I see Avery has speed to burn. Looking at him more closely, I don't see he is much off of what Jackson brings you. Still, to pass up a BCS guy (much less a Sweed or Thomas) for Avery is a shock. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-26-2008, 05:53 PM	#539
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Everyone thought Greg Jennings was a wasted pick too. Ted's built a division champ team with the last 3 drafts. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

04-26-2008, 05:53 PM	#540
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I would vote for teams to continue to make reaches....will push another good player to the steelers.

04-26-2008, 05:54 PM	#541
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	So what bad pick does Atlanta make now?

04-26-2008, 05:54 PM	#542
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	It really is like the teams drafting WRs don't realize that all the top WRs are still on the board. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

04-26-2008, 05:56 PM	#548
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Lofton, now Atlanta decides to make a good pick. MF'ers.

04-26-2008, 06:00 PM	#549
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Long as Detroit fans are around, I have to know. My view from not being as familiar with them, but generally familiar with the league, is that they would want to improve a defense that was dead last in the NFL. Then I realize they released Kevin Jones (how on Earth did I miss that?!?), so it made sad sense for them to get Mendenhall (defense is awful, but you have just about no one at RB). And then they draft an OL? And you guys are all cool with that? So that's why I am figuring I must be out of touch with Detroit. Is their line really that phenomenally bad, that they would pass up several good RBs and a slew of strong defensive choices to make a line pick? __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-26-2008, 06:00 PM	#550
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	I stand corrected, GB got a possession guy for the slot to play off the speed of Jennings. We'll see how the draft plays out but a 6-3, 220 guy with great hands seems like a nice addition for GB - esp when you throw in 2 Punt returns for TDs last season. Here's Scouts.incs writeup: "While he lacks elite speed and athleticism, Nelson is quicker than people seem to think and he simply knows how to separate and make plays... it wouldn't shock us if Nelson spends 10-plus productive seasons in the NFL as a possession No. 2 or No. 3 receiver." __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

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