2007-2008 NBA Regular Season Thread - Page 11

stevew · 02-17-2008, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

I don't believe he's retired. IIRC he was taking a year off and might come back next season.

It's actually been 1.5 years now. His agent was pretty smart to not file those retirement papers.

stevew · 02-17-2008, 07:35 PM

The Eagles suck too.

Young Drachma · 02-17-2008, 07:39 PM

I suppose it's better than FeFe Dobson a few years ago, but Deborah Cox successfully turned the Canadian anthem into a 5 minute song. Ugh.

I prefer this version:

rjolley · 02-17-2008, 07:53 PM

Ok, what's up with the All-Star unis? did they run out of material when making the back?

Every year, they do something fancy with the unis. Sometimes it works, sometimes, it doesn't...

nfg22 · 02-17-2008, 08:07 PM

This year it doesnt...They both have white, one on front and one on back...it messes me up watching the game...

Young Drachma · 02-17-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rjolley

Ok, what's up with the All-Star unis? did they run out of material when making the back?

Every year, they do something fancy with the unis. Sometimes it works, sometimes, it doesn't...

I was confused trying to figure out what team was what, until I realized they were two-tone.

I'm guessing they tried to "New Orleans-ify" things this year. But like with most things the NBA does, their execution was less than stellar.

nfg22 · 02-17-2008, 08:10 PM

I say trade the unis at half-time. Since everything else is getting traded.

nfg22 · 02-17-2008, 08:11 PM

Dola, I think the Kidd trade should go down at halftime and watch him switch teams half way between this shooting cont... I mean game..

LloydLungs · 02-17-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I'm guessing they tried to "New Orleans-ify" things this year. But like with most things the NBA does, their execution was less than stellar.

I'm not sure I would call those atrocities New Orleans-y -- they're just horrible uniforms. But I thought the intros were neat, and it's been quite a successful All-Star weekend after last year's debacle.

MikeVic · 02-17-2008, 08:31 PM

DC, that was freaking awesome.

LloydLungs · 02-17-2008, 08:36 PM

Boy, I forgot how terrible the quality of play was in the All-Star game. If these guys would just play basketball it would be a tremendous exhibition.

Tigercat · 02-17-2008, 09:00 PM

Random aside: I think its really really cool, that on an NBA halftime show of all places, Jazz (and jazz influences) is being featured. Acts like Soulja Boy and Pink would have been par for the course with NBA's cultural image over the past decade, I am very pleasantly surprised to see that they went along with this.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-17-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

Random aside: I think its really really cool, that on an NBA halftime show of all places, Jazz (and jazz influences) is being featured. Acts like Soulja Boy and Pink would have been par for the course with NBA's cultural image over the past decade, I am very pleasantly surprised to see that they went along with this.

Agreed. One of my favorite half time shows of any sport in a long time.

Arles · 02-18-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Yep, here's the new deal according to ESPN.com

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Sources say Mavs swingman Trenton Hassell and the retired Keith Van Horn will be plugged into the trade in place of Jerry Stackhouse and Devean George. If the newly proposed deal goes through, New Jersey would receive 24-year-old point guard Devin Harris, center DeSagana Diop, guard Maurice Ager, forwards Hassell and Van Horn, two first-round draft picks and $3 million in cash for Kidd and Nets forward Malik Allen.

The Mavs are giving up a ton for a guy that, IMO, isn't as good as Devin Harris at this stage of his career.

I'm a little shocked at this. One would think a benefit of moving Kidd would be freeing up some salary. Hassell has a pretty bad contract $4+ million this year and next year, with a player option for the same amount in 09-10. I'd say kudos to Dallas if they can unload his deal in this move.

stevew · 02-18-2008, 10:05 AM

Hopefully LeBron to Howard will work this summer in the Olympics. I have faith that Team USA will finally win gold again.

Big Fo · 02-18-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Hopefully LeBron to Howard will work this summer in the Olympics. I have faith that Team USA will finally win gold again.

Word. Not to mention having actual point guards this time. I couldn't give a damn about the millions of swimming, gymnastics, and track events, USA gold in basketball is the only thing I really want to see this summer.

Kodos · 02-18-2008, 12:14 PM

I kinda enjoyed more team-ball-based countries beating the U.S. in basketball.

bulletsponge · 02-18-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I kinda enjoyed more team-ball-based countries beating the U.S. in basketball.

you dont like the 4 wingmen who cant hit a jumper approach to sell shirts that we have been sending over?

Butter · 02-18-2008, 01:37 PM

I don't normally watch the NBA, but Dwight Howard in the dunk competition was frickin' awesome. The Superman cape, then just throwing the ball in the basket... it wasn't even really a dunk, but who cares?

Groundhog · 02-18-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I don't normally watch the NBA, but Dwight Howard in the dunk competition was frickin' awesome. The Superman cape, then just throwing the ball in the basket... it wasn't even really a dunk, but who cares?

Hah, yeah. Funny thing was, it wasn't until a few hours later when I was thinking about the superman dunk again that I even realised that he didn't dunk it.

rjolley · 02-18-2008, 04:32 PM

Just looked at the highlights on nba.com. The Superman dunk was a throw-in, but the tip drill dunk was beautiful.

Groundhog · 02-18-2008, 07:08 PM

Sixers apparently open to trading Andre Miller. Cavs, I know you don't have any parts, but somehow make it happen. I'd love for my favourite NBA team to get my favourite all-time NCAA/NBA player back.

miami_fan · 02-18-2008, 07:59 PM

Assuming the Kidd trade go through somehow, which superstar has more pressure on them to win a NBA title this year? Dirk, Nash, or Kobe?

SnDvls · 02-18-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Assuming the Kidd trade go through somehow, which superstar has more pressure on them to win a NBA title this year? Dirk, Nash, or Kobe?

only counting this year....if Shaq is healthy Nash the window is closing on us with Hill/Nash/Shaq...if Shaq isn't healthy Kobe.

Kobe kept saying he needed help, he's got it now he needs to prove that he can win with his help.

korme · 02-18-2008, 08:32 PM

Nash, as his window of opportunity is the smallest.

JeeberD · 02-18-2008, 08:34 PM

TMac, 'cause he's become Mr Glass.

Wait...that wasn't an option?

miami_fan · 02-18-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

TMac, 'cause he's become Mr Glass.

Wait...that wasn't an option?

When I ask the question about the guy under the most pressure to get out of the first round, I'll include Tracy

JeeberD · 02-18-2008, 08:47 PM

lol

It's funny (and VERY sad) 'cause it's true.

korme · 02-18-2008, 08:58 PM

Nobody can stop the Rockets, based on their current win streak they should finish 62-20

JeeberD · 02-18-2008, 08:59 PM

NOVAK 4 MVP!!!

BishopMVP · 02-18-2008, 09:11 PM

I don't get this trade for Dallas. +1 to the people saying Harris is as good as Kidd now. Good luck to Dallas trying to stop Parker, Nash, Baron, Chris Paul, etc. J-Kidd might match up well against Deron Williams style I guess.

The dunk contest was great, but they really need to change the judging system. It should just be 3 dunks each, and each judge picks their winner. If you have a tie, fine, do a dunk-off, but the multiple rounds and 10 pt scoring system doesn't work when there's never less than an 8 given. They also need to bring in James White, if not Taurian Fontenette, and allow people like Dwight Howard to do things like raise the rim to 12 ft.

BishopMVP · 02-18-2008, 09:12 PM

Dola - I also found it hilarious that they called a charge off ball in the last minute of an all-star game, and that Doc started subbing in FT shooters.

molson · 02-18-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I don't normally watch the NBA, but Dwight Howard in the dunk competition was frickin' awesome. The Superman cape, then just throwing the ball in the basket... it wasn't even really a dunk, but who cares?

I'll give him points for style, but c'mon, if Jordan or Dr. J jumped from the free throw line, then couldn't actually reach the rim and just threw it in, it wouldn't quite be the same. But Howard is a showman and he actually pulled it off where it looked like a positive.

MikeVic · 02-18-2008, 10:09 PM

I totally think Howard could have dunked that if he wanted. It just looked so much more forceful to me when he threw it in.

JeeberD · 02-18-2008, 10:13 PM

He was too far away, Mike. But I think that had to do more with the pass than his jumping ability...

Groundhog · 02-18-2008, 10:16 PM

Yeah I think he could have either made that dunk from there, or at least from a few inches forwards. Much of the charm of the dunk was the way he just got right up there and threw that ball down in to the hoop though.

Neon_Chaos · 02-19-2008, 12:27 AM

Mavs - Nets deal is a GO.

rjolley · 02-19-2008, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Dola - I also found it hilarious that they called a charge off ball in the last minute of an all-star game, and that Doc started subbing in FT shooters.

The call was an illegal screen when Paul wiped out Allen on the screen. It was the right call, but surprising since they may not have called it in a regular game.

Neon_Chaos · 02-19-2008, 12:47 PM

Mavs Finally Get Kidd

stevew · 02-19-2008, 12:51 PM

does that make it officially official?

Neon_Chaos · 02-19-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

does that make it officially official?

Yep.

Van Horn got paid BOIIIIII!

Logan · 02-19-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Yep.

Van Horn got paid BOIIIIII!

Yeah, Keith and his six wives are gonna be partying tonight.

st.cronin · 02-19-2008, 01:30 PM

So what does Keith Van Horn get Devean George for Christmas? A new house or three?

Lathum · 02-19-2008, 02:53 PM

So does VanHorn really get paid 2 Mil?

Groundhog · 02-19-2008, 04:17 PM

Van Horn gets paid, yes. However I read yesterday that the NBA might actually make him join the Nets to make it more official. No idea what that would mean though.

On a side note, Nick Fazekas was waived by the Mavs to make the deal work. I still think he can make it in the NBA, and he'd be a decent pickup for a team looking for a jumpshooting bigman.

SirFozzie · 02-19-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Van Horn gets paid, yes. However I read yesterday that the NBA might actually make him join the Nets to make it more official. No idea what that would mean though.

He has to take the physical, and stick around the team (IE, sit on the bench and be an extremely well paid cheerleader). He'll also take up one of the 15 active slots on the roster.

BishopMVP · 02-19-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rjolley

The call was an illegal screen when Paul wiped out Allen on the screen. It was the right call, but surprising since they may not have called it in a regular game.

No doubt it was a foul, I was just shocked they actually called something off-ball in the last minute

MikeVic · 02-19-2008, 07:52 PM

How sweet must that have been for Van Horn? Sitting at home unofficially retired... oh, and here's $2M!

Neon_Chaos · 02-19-2008, 10:04 PM

It's actually about 4 mil.

BishopMVP · 02-19-2008, 10:24 PM

6pt lead for the Nuggets over the Celtics right now w/5 to go. channelsurfing.net Officials a couple questionable calls both ways last two minutes - missing an obvious one then a make-up call next time down.

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Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	I don't normally watch the NBA, but Dwight Howard in the dunk competition was frickin' awesome. The Superman cape, then just throwing the ball in the basket... it wasn't even really a dunk, but who cares? __________________ My listening habits

02-18-2008, 07:08 PM	#522
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Sixers apparently open to trading Andre Miller. Cavs, I know you don't have any parts, but somehow make it happen. I'd love for my favourite NBA team to get my favourite all-time NCAA/NBA player back. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

02-18-2008, 07:59 PM	#523
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Assuming the Kidd trade go through somehow, which superstar has more pressure on them to win a NBA title this year? Dirk, Nash, or Kobe? __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

02-17-2008, 07:35 PM	#502
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	The Eagles suck too.

02-17-2008, 07:53 PM	#504
rjolley College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Roseville, CA	Ok, what's up with the All-Star unis? did they run out of material when making the back? Every year, they do something fancy with the unis. Sometimes it works, sometimes, it doesn't...

02-17-2008, 08:07 PM	#505
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	This year it doesnt...They both have white, one on front and one on back...it messes me up watching the game...

02-17-2008, 08:10 PM	#507
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	I say trade the unis at half-time. Since everything else is getting traded.

02-17-2008, 08:11 PM	#508
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Dola, I think the Kidd trade should go down at halftime and watch him switch teams half way between this shooting cont... I mean game..

02-17-2008, 08:31 PM	#510
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	DC, that was freaking awesome.

02-17-2008, 08:36 PM	#511
LloydLungs College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ponchatoula, LA	Boy, I forgot how terrible the quality of play was in the All-Star game. If these guys would just play basketball it would be a tremendous exhibition.

02-17-2008, 09:00 PM	#512
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	Random aside: I think its really really cool, that on an NBA halftime show of all places, Jazz (and jazz influences) is being featured. Acts like Soulja Boy and Pink would have been par for the course with NBA's cultural image over the past decade, I am very pleasantly surprised to see that they went along with this.

02-18-2008, 10:05 AM	#515
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Hopefully LeBron to Howard will work this summer in the Olympics. I have faith that Team USA will finally win gold again.

02-18-2008, 04:32 PM	#521
rjolley College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Roseville, CA	Just looked at the highlights on nba.com. The Superman dunk was a throw-in, but the tip drill dunk was beautiful.

02-18-2008, 08:32 PM	#525
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Nash, as his window of opportunity is the smallest.

02-18-2008, 08:34 PM	#526
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	TMac, 'cause he's become Mr Glass. Wait...that wasn't an option? __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

02-18-2008, 08:47 PM	#528
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	lol It's funny (and VERY sad) 'cause it's true. __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

02-18-2008, 08:58 PM	#529
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Nobody can stop the Rockets, based on their current win streak they should finish 62-20

02-18-2008, 08:59 PM	#530
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	NOVAK 4 MVP!!! __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

02-18-2008, 09:11 PM	#531
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	I don't get this trade for Dallas. +1 to the people saying Harris is as good as Kidd now. Good luck to Dallas trying to stop Parker, Nash, Baron, Chris Paul, etc. J-Kidd might match up well against Deron Williams style I guess. The dunk contest was great, but they really need to change the judging system. It should just be 3 dunks each, and each judge picks their winner. If you have a tie, fine, do a dunk-off, but the multiple rounds and 10 pt scoring system doesn't work when there's never less than an 8 given. They also need to bring in James White, if not Taurian Fontenette, and allow people like Dwight Howard to do things like raise the rim to 12 ft.

02-18-2008, 09:12 PM	#532
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Dola - I also found it hilarious that they called a charge off ball in the last minute of an all-star game, and that Doc started subbing in FT shooters.

02-18-2008, 10:09 PM	#534
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I totally think Howard could have dunked that if he wanted. It just looked so much more forceful to me when he threw it in.

02-18-2008, 10:13 PM	#535
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	He was too far away, Mike. But I think that had to do more with the pass than his jumping ability... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

02-18-2008, 10:16 PM	#536
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Yeah I think he could have either made that dunk from there, or at least from a few inches forwards. Much of the charm of the dunk was the way he just got right up there and threw that ball down in to the hoop though. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

02-19-2008, 12:27 AM	#537
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Mavs - Nets deal is a GO. __________________ Come and see.

02-19-2008, 12:47 PM	#539
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Mavs Finally Get Kidd __________________ Come and see.

02-19-2008, 12:51 PM	#540
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	does that make it officially official?

02-19-2008, 01:30 PM	#543
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	So what does Keith Van Horn get Devean George for Christmas? A new house or three? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-19-2008, 02:53 PM	#544
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	So does VanHorn really get paid 2 Mil?

02-19-2008, 04:17 PM	#545
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Van Horn gets paid, yes. However I read yesterday that the NBA might actually make him join the Nets to make it more official. No idea what that would mean though. On a side note, Nick Fazekas was waived by the Mavs to make the deal work. I still think he can make it in the NBA, and he'd be a decent pickup for a team looking for a jumpshooting bigman. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

02-19-2008, 07:52 PM	#548
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	How sweet must that have been for Van Horn? Sitting at home unofficially retired... oh, and here's $2M!

02-19-2008, 10:04 PM	#549
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	It's actually about 4 mil. __________________ Come and see.

02-19-2008, 10:24 PM	#550
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	6pt lead for the Nuggets over the Celtics right now w/5 to go. channelsurfing.net Officials a couple questionable calls both ways last two minutes - missing an obvious one then a make-up call next time down.

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