Divisional Playoff Football - Page 11

TroyF · 01-16-2005, 05:37 PM

Freeney was held BADLY on that last play. Horrible no call there.

kingfc22 · 01-16-2005, 05:43 PM

Big 3rd down conversion there for the Pats. Keep the drive going and they don't have to settle for a long FG attempt.

TroyF · 01-16-2005, 05:45 PM

I think Freeney was hurt on the non holding call. He had his arm yanked hard. He went out and that started this drive.

Don't give me any crap about being a NE hater either. It's just an observation.

JAG · 01-16-2005, 05:45 PM

Impressive drive from NE.

kingfc22 · 01-16-2005, 05:46 PM

Woot!!!

TroyF · 01-16-2005, 05:46 PM

Freeney was held on the TD play. Again.

If the Colts get a single holding call the rest of the way, they should just walk off the field.

kingfc22 · 01-16-2005, 05:47 PM

It's all setup for Manning now. Can he lead his team back late in the game, on the road and in the playoffs? Or will he blow it like always.

TroyF · 01-16-2005, 05:47 PM

Correction. . . after watching the replay, it was a clean block. Freeney went outside and lost contain, my bad.

TLK · 01-16-2005, 05:47 PM

The Pats stratagy today has worked perfectly. I couldn't believe when I looked up and there was under two minutes left in the third. The Colts have to do something on this drive....

Easy Mac · 01-16-2005, 05:48 PM

I was wondering if I was the only one noticing Troy.. it seems they've gone from not calling holding in the secondary to not calling holding on the line.

henry296 · 01-16-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Good lord, ANOTHER stupid play by NE. This is amazing to watch.

As for the helmut to helmut, Simms explanation was dead on. It's not a foul in the context of the game. He became a ball carrier when he caught the ball and made a football move. The NFL office gets to look at it differently though. That will draw a fine.

I agree with Simms. Other than the fact that Pennington is a QB, the Personal Foul call on Porter yesterday for hitting Pennington in the chest with his helmet isn't that much different.

JAG · 01-16-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

It's all setup for Manning now. Can he lead his team back late in the game, on the road and in the playoffs? Or will he blow it like always.

Give me a break. You can admit the circumstances are a bit unfavorable for him, can you not? These are not great conditions for throwing (it's not like Brady's lighting up the field) and being down by a good bit takes away from the play-action pass, one of Peyton's strong points. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't lead them back because Indy hasn't been able to run the ball pretty much all game and the protection from their OL has been shoddy.

TroyF · 01-16-2005, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Give me a break. You can admit the circumstances are a bit unfavorable for him, can you not? These are not great conditions for throwing (it's not like Brady's lighting up the field) and being down by a good bit takes away from the play-action pass, one of Peyton's strong points. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't lead them back because Indy hasn't been able to run the ball pretty much all game and the protection from their OL has been shoddy.

Doesn't matter. He's gotta find a way to do it sometime. Every QB has THE GAME. Manning needs to have it. Circumstances against him, horrible field conditions, tough opponent. He's move the team most of the game. He needs to come up with a big fourth.

On the other hand, I'll be watching the holding penalties VERY closely. That hold on Freeney was huge. I still can't believe it was a no call. The refs need to keep the flags in their pockets if the Colts happen to have a blatant one.

Manning needs to step up and he needs to do it now. If he doesn't, he'll have to deal with the criticism for the off season.

JAG · 01-16-2005, 05:57 PM

New England's D has been pretty inspired today.

temley06 · 01-16-2005, 05:57 PM

The Pats are playing a heck of a game, their linebacking corp is absolutely shuting down Manning.

TroyF · 01-16-2005, 05:58 PM

That last play was exactly what's wrong with Manning in big games. He had plenty of time and he had two wide open receivers. (as much as Simms wanted to be in the Pats jock straps, there were two wideouts wide open on the play)

He missed em and the Colts now punt. That's not scheme. That's not great defense. That's a highly skilled player not making a throw when he needs to do it. Period.

Ksyrup · 01-16-2005, 05:59 PM

This isn't the kind of game a QB steps up and wins it for his team. If Indy loses, it's not because of Manning. This game is being decided by the running games, and it shouldn't even be as close as it is. NE is killing Indy in the running game.

Cringer · 01-16-2005, 05:59 PM

I wish there was a way to see what the Patriots coaching staff could do with a defensive unit like the Packers, in other words a crappy one. Every thing I heard all week was how the Pats just did not have enough guys to match up against the Colts weapons, yet here they are doing that and more.

cody8200 · 01-16-2005, 06:00 PM

Crappy pass by Brady...could have won the game with that pass.

Easy Mac · 01-16-2005, 06:00 PM

Have the colts run anything other than a screen pass or a James run on 1st or 2nd down?

cody8200 · 01-16-2005, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Have the colts run anything other than a screen pass or a James run on 1st or 2nd down?

Yeh I was wondering the same damn thing

temley06 · 01-16-2005, 06:03 PM

This game is about to end, if the Colts don't stop them here.

Easy Mac · 01-16-2005, 06:03 PM

well, they called holding... on the colts D...

kingfc22 · 01-16-2005, 06:03 PM

If Indy's defense allows another 6+ minute drive here, then this game is all but over.

cody8200 · 01-16-2005, 06:04 PM

That pass interference call...bullshit.

Ksyrup · 01-16-2005, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Have the colts run anything other than a screen pass or a James run on 1st or 2nd down?

No kidding. But that's Peyton Manning's fault...

Seriously, why would they not try a couple of long passes, throw it up and see what happens? The weather isn't favorable, but it's not like they are doing much else. At least, go back to the hurry up.

TroyF · 01-16-2005, 06:04 PM

That ball was not catchable. What a horrible call. That's just disgusting to watch. HORRIBLE call.

Easy Mac · 01-16-2005, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cody8200

Yeh I was wondering the same damn thing

I understand NE has pwned you on offense, but you keep sticking to screen passes and they'll sit on you. I think Indy had to try and keep them honest, and they haven't.

TroyF · 01-16-2005, 06:06 PM

Games over.

ISiddiqui · 01-16-2005, 06:06 PM

Yep, the Pats are getting all the calls... even Pats fans have to admit that.

kingfc22 · 01-16-2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

That ball was not catchable. What a horrible call. That's just disgusting to watch. HORRIBLE call.

It should have been at least a holding call. You can't touch a guy past 5 yards.

temley06 · 01-16-2005, 06:07 PM

What crappy tackling, has Morris even made 1 tackle? What a joke of a middle linebacker.

cody8200 · 01-16-2005, 06:07 PM

agreed...of course thats a difference of 12 or so yards.

kingfc22 · 01-16-2005, 06:10 PM

Great run by Dillon. Indy's defense is playing with zero attitude.

spleen1015 · 01-16-2005, 06:10 PM

This team will never get over the hump with a defense like this. They can't tackle for shit.

cody8200 · 01-16-2005, 06:10 PM

so the colts will lose...i blame dungy. Just called plays much too damn conservative. Fucking annoying.

ISiddiqui · 01-16-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Great run by Dillon. Indy's defense is playing with zero attitude.

Yep. It's like they've given up already.

Ksyrup · 01-16-2005, 06:11 PM

As a Broncos fan, all I can say is, what comes around goes around. We can't get past Indy, they can't get past NE.

Senator · 01-16-2005, 06:11 PM

These threads are the weakest excuse for post padding I have ever seen.

/bitter manning fan

Ksyrup · 01-16-2005, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cody8200

so the colts will lose...i blame dungy. Just called plays much too damn conservative. Fucking annoying.

I know. This game feels like watching FSU on offense.

temley06 · 01-16-2005, 06:12 PM

The critics were right, the Colts are a bunch of pussies. Until they rip the roof off of that stupid dome they are destined to be playoff has-beens. They just don't belong outside.

kingfc22 · 01-16-2005, 06:13 PM

So I guess this means we don't have to hear about all the Colts weapons for the rest of this season.

spleen1015 · 01-16-2005, 06:13 PM

Ball game. Mabye next year.

TroyF · 01-16-2005, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

I understand NE has pwned you on offense, but you keep sticking to screen passes and they'll sit on you. I think Indy had to try and keep them honest, and they haven't.

Exactly. The inside out thing was a great idea, but they never bounced back. They dropped more INT's this half and they are going to lose the game.

The Colts play scared when they play the Pats. It's like watching Texas/OU. Doesn't matter about the talent, doesn't matter who SHOULD win, it's all about the result. They had their chances to pic Brady off and to make plays on offense and failed miserably again. One team makes plays, the other doesn't.

The Pats are primed to win the Super Bowl again now. Ben in a big game against that D? Hell no. McNabb? Vick? Get real. It's not about the talent, it's not about Beli being a great coach. . . it's about pure fear other teams play with when they play the Pats.

Again, I go back to that third down throw. Plenty of time. Wide open receivers. Throw into the ground. Brady completes the ball in that situation, Manning doesn't. Plain and simple.

TroyF · 01-16-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

So I guess this means we don't have to hear about all the Colts weapons for the rest of this season.

Just be like the OU fans man. PRAY EVERY SINGLE NIGHT the Colts keep Dungy. As long as he's on the sideline and you have Beli, you'll win. That ever changes, you'll get beat. It's that simple.

temley06 · 01-16-2005, 06:16 PM

Manning's career is looking more and more like Marino's. Although Danny did make to one SB

Buccaneer · 01-16-2005, 06:17 PM

My wife (and I), being big fans of Montana, has compared Brady to him - unflappable, field general, and not missing on 3rd down throws. Having Dillon also helps.

Another Dome team bites the dust. One more to go.

temley06 · 01-16-2005, 06:18 PM

Is this post padding?

kingfc22 · 01-16-2005, 06:18 PM

I'm a Niners fan (ugh, shoot me) so I could care less if they keep Dungy. Just like watching the "great one" lose another playoff game while former UM QB inches closer to his 3rd Super Bowl.

kingfc22 · 01-16-2005, 06:19 PM

A bunch of pussies this Indy team is. Go back inside and have a track meet.

01-16-2005, 05:43 PM	#502
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Big 3rd down conversion there for the Pats. Keep the drive going and they don't have to settle for a long FG attempt. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-16-2005, 05:46 PM	#505
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Woot!!! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-16-2005, 05:47 PM	#507
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	It's all setup for Manning now. Can he lead his team back late in the game, on the road and in the playoffs? Or will he blow it like always. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-16-2005, 05:59 PM	#517
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	This isn't the kind of game a QB steps up and wins it for his team. If Indy loses, it's not because of Manning. This game is being decided by the running games, and it shouldn't even be as close as it is. NE is killing Indy in the running game. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-16-2005, 05:59 PM	#518
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	I wish there was a way to see what the Patriots coaching staff could do with a defensive unit like the Packers, in other words a crappy one. Every thing I heard all week was how the Pats just did not have enough guys to match up against the Colts weapons, yet here they are doing that and more. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

01-16-2005, 05:37 PM	#501
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Freeney was held BADLY on that last play. Horrible no call there.

01-16-2005, 05:45 PM	#503
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I think Freeney was hurt on the non holding call. He had his arm yanked hard. He went out and that started this drive. Don't give me any crap about being a NE hater either. It's just an observation.

01-16-2005, 05:45 PM	#504
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Impressive drive from NE.

01-16-2005, 05:46 PM	#506
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Freeney was held on the TD play. Again. If the Colts get a single holding call the rest of the way, they should just walk off the field.

01-16-2005, 05:47 PM	#508
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Correction. . . after watching the replay, it was a clean block. Freeney went outside and lost contain, my bad.

01-16-2005, 05:47 PM	#509
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	The Pats stratagy today has worked perfectly. I couldn't believe when I looked up and there was under two minutes left in the third. The Colts have to do something on this drive....

01-16-2005, 05:48 PM	#510
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	I was wondering if I was the only one noticing Troy.. it seems they've gone from not calling holding in the secondary to not calling holding on the line.

01-16-2005, 05:57 PM	#514
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	New England's D has been pretty inspired today.

01-16-2005, 05:57 PM	#515
temley06 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	The Pats are playing a heck of a game, their linebacking corp is absolutely shuting down Manning.

01-16-2005, 05:58 PM	#516
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	That last play was exactly what's wrong with Manning in big games. He had plenty of time and he had two wide open receivers. (as much as Simms wanted to be in the Pats jock straps, there were two wideouts wide open on the play) He missed em and the Colts now punt. That's not scheme. That's not great defense. That's a highly skilled player not making a throw when he needs to do it. Period.

01-16-2005, 06:00 PM	#519
cody8200 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000	Crappy pass by Brady...could have won the game with that pass.

01-16-2005, 06:00 PM	#520
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Have the colts run anything other than a screen pass or a James run on 1st or 2nd down?

01-16-2005, 06:03 PM	#522
temley06 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	This game is about to end, if the Colts don't stop them here.

01-16-2005, 06:03 PM	#523
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	well, they called holding... on the colts D...

01-16-2005, 06:03 PM	#524
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	If Indy's defense allows another 6+ minute drive here, then this game is all but over. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-16-2005, 06:04 PM	#525
cody8200 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000	That pass interference call...bullshit.

01-16-2005, 06:04 PM	#527
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	That ball was not catchable. What a horrible call. That's just disgusting to watch. HORRIBLE call.

01-16-2005, 06:06 PM	#529
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Games over.

01-16-2005, 06:06 PM	#530
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Yep, the Pats are getting all the calls... even Pats fans have to admit that. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-16-2005, 06:07 PM	#532
temley06 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	What crappy tackling, has Morris even made 1 tackle? What a joke of a middle linebacker.

01-16-2005, 06:07 PM	#533
cody8200 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000	agreed...of course thats a difference of 12 or so yards.

01-16-2005, 06:10 PM	#534
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Great run by Dillon. Indy's defense is playing with zero attitude. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-16-2005, 06:10 PM	#535
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	This team will never get over the hump with a defense like this. They can't tackle for shit.

01-16-2005, 06:10 PM	#536
cody8200 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000	so the colts will lose...i blame dungy. Just called plays much too damn conservative. Fucking annoying.

01-16-2005, 06:11 PM	#538
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	As a Broncos fan, all I can say is, what comes around goes around. We can't get past Indy, they can't get past NE. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-16-2005, 06:11 PM	#539
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	These threads are the weakest excuse for post padding I have ever seen. /bitter manning fan __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

01-16-2005, 06:12 PM	#541
temley06 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	The critics were right, the Colts are a bunch of pussies. Until they rip the roof off of that stupid dome they are destined to be playoff has-beens. They just don't belong outside.

01-16-2005, 06:13 PM	#542
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	So I guess this means we don't have to hear about all the Colts weapons for the rest of this season. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-16-2005, 06:13 PM	#543
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Ball game. Mabye next year.

01-16-2005, 06:16 PM	#546
temley06 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	Manning's career is looking more and more like Marino's. Although Danny did make to one SB