Wow - How about the Manning boos? (and draft commentary)

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Greg Jones:

Packers, Titans?

Why would Packers take a RB? They have 3 they are very happy with, Green, Davenport, and just resigned....shit, great fan i am, can't remember his name...Fisher...thats it

[VPI97]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I still don't know what you got against the EXCELLENT pick of Hall with the first pick.

Using the #8 pick to take a punt returner is far from excellent.

[JeeberD]

Greg Jones to the Jags. Taylor insurance...

Happy now Noop?

[Noop]

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

With all the Miami guys selected, FSU needs to get better recruiters.

No just needed to rid of the losers...Chris Rix your next.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Greg Jones to the Jags. Taylor insurance...

Happy now Noop?

Yes.

[dawgfan]

Hmmm, the Boulware pick doesn't make a lot of sense for the Seahawks unless they're thinking of converting him to Safety. With Anthony Simmons and Chad Brown, OLB is not a need and Boulware is probably too small for the position anyway.

[tucker rocky]

Wow! Greg Jones is coming to the Jags.
Every other teams lost is our gain. Nice pick by the Jags.
FSU fans here in Jax should be very happy.

[Cringer]

WTF DID SHERMAN JUST DO?!?!?! Traded away the pick? For what? They are not on the 2nd round board now! What about my DE? ahhhhhhh mannnnn, i hope one falls to them wherever they have thier next pick, or whoever they want does...

[tucker rocky]

Originally Posted by Cringer

WTF DID SHERMAN JUST DO?!?!?! Traded away the pick? For what? They are not on the 2nd round board now! What about my DE? ahhhhhhh mannnnn, i hope one falls to them wherever they have thier next pick, or whoever they want does...

Pack could trade back up to get a DE also

[Cringer]

dola- Ok, Packers got J-ville's 3rd rounder, number 70, that much i found out, but what else?

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Pack could trade back up to get a DE also

true, but i don't see why they would turn around and trade back up, i just want to know what they got out of it? Odom and Hill are still out there at DE, hopefully one falls....

[Celeval]

Looks like they also got a 4th - #102.

[korme]

Since when did Corey Chavous become an NFL Draft Guru? He has knowledge of all of these players I've never heard of on the Draft Chat through Draftcast.

[JeeberD]

Meh...I hate seeing Jerry Jones' ugly mug on TV...

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Celeval

Looks like they also got a 4th - #102.

thanks, i missed that one.


Shorty, Chavous records every game he can, mostly pro that i know, but at last years draft he said how he wants to be a "Mel" kinda guy and loves evaluating players

[tucker rocky]

Originally Posted by Cringer

true, but i don't see why they would turn around and trade back up, i just want to know what they got out of it? Odom and Hill are still out there at DE, hopefully one falls....

Odom gone... hmmm.... what are the Packers going to do?.....

[tucker rocky]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Meh...I hate seeing Jerry Jones' ugly mug on TV...

Cheap bastard!

[Cringer]

Odom is gone to Tennessee.....grrrrrrrrrrrrreat.....

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Odom gone... hmmm.... what are the Packers going to do?.....

not get pressure on the QB as everyone focuses on KGB and Jackson.....

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by VPI97

Using the #8 pick to take a punt returner is far from excellent.

I think we'll be happy with Hall.

[cthomer5000]

lol. VPI hasn't been too enthused with the Falcons draft.

[Celeval]

Very nice move by Cleveland to move up and take Sean Jones, I think.

[Celeval]

Well, maybe... anyone know what they gave up? Seems the Browns still have their third round pic.

[Celeval]

Okay, here we go. For Sean Jones, Browns send their third (#68), fifth (#141), and sixth (#173). They still have a #4, #6, and #7 for the draft; but are done for the day.

[BigJohn&TheLions]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Am I the only one who thinks Detroit gave up too much to move up and get Jones?

I still don't know what they gave up (other than that #2.) I was out gettin' popeye's chicken and beer when it went down. Please don't tell me they gave up next year's #1...

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by BigJohn&TheLions

I still don't know what they gave up (other than that #2.) I was out gettin' popeye's chicken and beer when it went down. Please don't tell me they gave up next year's #1...

no way they gave up too much:

Lions-Chiefs
Lions get: Kansas City's first-round pick (No. 30), which they used to select Virginia Tech RB Kevin Jones. Chiefs get: Detroit's second-round pick (No. 36), which they used to select Oregon DT Junior Siavii, fourth-round pick (No. 105) and the Lions' fifth-round pick in 2005. Scouts, Inc. analysis

[Leonidas]

What I don't understand is teams trading pretty high picks to move up one spot. Cleveland traded a second round pick to move up from 7 to 6, Miami traded a 4th round pick to go from 20 to 19. If the team ahead of them really wanted the guy they were going after, would that team have been willing to make the trade in the first place? So did Detroit call Cleveland and say, "I know you guys really want Winslow, but if you don't fork up a second round pick right now we're going to F you over"? Everyone in the house knew Detroit wanted Roy Williams all along. Just friggin stupid trades IMO.

[VPI97]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I think we'll be happy with Hall.

I've seen every game the kid has played the last three years and unless they can teach him coverage fundamentals, he'll be the second coming of Allen Rossum. Great returner, but far from first round material.

[Celeval]

Originally Posted by Leonidas

So did Detroit call Cleveland and say, "I know you guys really want Winslow, but if you don't fork up a second round pick right now we're going to F you over"? Everyone in the house knew Detroit wanted Roy Williams all along. Just friggin stupid trades IMO.

Word on the Cleveland boards is that the Browns were bidding against other teams to trade up for Winslow. No idea how true that is.

[tucker rocky]

DE Hill gone....not good for Packer fans who wanted a DE.

[BigJohn&TheLions]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

no way they gave up too much:

Nope. They didn't give up too much. Think about it, Cleveland handed them a gift in that #2. If they take Williams without trading down ONE PICK, then you don't get Jones and you have a 4 and a 5 (next year) Last year's 4 & 5 for the Lions: Pinner and Davis. OK, I left out Holt, but they had 2 #5's. So what you got there, an IR special and a special teamer. Not bad for a guy who could be the best back in D since Barry... Still, I wish they had taken Suggs last year instead of Pinner...

[VPI97]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

lol. VPI hasn't been too enthused with the Falcons draft.

New coaching staff, same old crap. First, they pass up a chance to solidify the defensive front in favor of taking one of Michael Vick's friends...then they trade away multiple picks so that they can pass on a potential #1 receiver (Woods) for a guy who is a Brian Finneran clone. I don't seee how anyone can rate their early draft as anything but an F.

[Cringer]

Jacksonville made out on the trade up for Jones. Sherman gave away thier second pick for only thier 3rd and 4th this year.

Jacksonville still has another 3rd rd pick.........

Basically the Packer gains a 4th round pick, nd don't get the guy i wanted them to get, guess Sherman didn't get my memo...

[JeeberD]

Round three begins. Time for the Trey Darilek watch to start...

[Samdari]

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Boulware is rated better than Smith at LB. Wonder why Jags passed on Boulware?

Huh? I was stunned that Lehman went ahead of Smith. Smith is the #2 LB in this draft and the Titans are going to feel stupid very very soon.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by VPI97

New coaching staff, same old crap. First, they pass up a chance to solidify the defensive front in favor of taking one of Michael Vick's friends...then they trade away multiple picks so that they can pass on a potential #1 receiver (Woods) for a guy who is a Brian Finneran clone. I don't seee how anyone can rate their early draft as anything but an F.

1) Jenkins is faster and has better hands than Finneran. 2) I think you're wrong on Hall. There was no dl player available that was equal to Hall.

[cthomer5000]

And the Chargers make Eli Manning's point for him by taking a kicker in the third round. A team with massive holes everywhere takes a kicker at #65.

[BigJohn&TheLions]

HAA HAA HAA! San Diego takes a kicker in 3??? HAA HAA HAA!!! Here's why I question the pick: Without an O-Line and recievers, they will only need a kicker about once a game: the opening kickoff. Now if he is also one hell of a punter...

[VPI97]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

2) I think you're wrong on Hall. There was no dl player available that was equal to Hall.

So says the hype. Take a look at the reason VT collapsed last year...once teams learned that they could attack Hall, we got trounced. Just ask Pitt, UVA, BC & Cal. He has physical skills that are among the top 1% of players...but he has no fundamentals and is so cocky that he doesn't think he needs to learn them. Wasted pick.

Edit - When college fans are happy that a player has decided to go pro early, that says something.

[Samdari]

Originally Posted by VPI97

Using the #8 pick to take a punt returner is far from excellent.

You are not giving Hall nearly enough credit as a CB. He dominated every game I saw him play - including humiliating Larry Fitzgerald.

[Cringer]

Holmgren just said Boulware would be a safety........fits his size i guess....

[Cringer]

Just saw NE took Hill at the end of 2......grrrrrrrrrrreat Packers....

[VPI97]

Originally Posted by Samdari

You are not giving Hall nearly enough credit as a CB. He dominated every game I saw him play - including humiliating Larry Fitzgerald.

What game was that? In man coverage, Hall let Fitzgerald go for 100+ yards and a score last year.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by VPI97

So says the hype. Take a look at the reason VT collapsed last year...once teams learned that they could attack Hall, we got trounced. Just ask Pitt, UVA, BC & Cal. He has physical skills that are among the top 1% of players...but he has no fundamentals and is so cocky that he doesn't think he needs to learn them. Wasted pick.

Edit - When college fans are happy that a player has decided to go pro early, that says something.

I'm sure it was all him.

[Cringer]

Joey Thomas,CB, Montana St....Packers pick, LOVE IT!!!!! not a DE, but i LOVE IT

[VPI97]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I'm sure it was all him.

The difference is that you have no idea what could be attributed to Hall, I do.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Shorty3281

Shitigan

Heh! PISS OFF, tiny.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by VPI97

The difference is that you have no idea what could be attributed to Hall, I do.

To bad all those NFL scouts who had him number one on the board didn't ask you, eh? You need to sell your info. Maybe set-up a website or something.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by VPI97

The difference is that you have no idea what could be attributed to Hall, I do.

are you his position coach at VT?

[Leonidas]

I'm stunned Hartsock went so high. Also stunned it took three rounds to get Dockett drafted. Arizona got a steal there. He might be first round talent. Wonder what scared so many teams off.