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Maybe it's as simple as needing her regenerative power for Peter to survive a fight with Sylar.
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10-31-2006, 11:45 AM
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That makes sense, though Sylar appeared plenty "invulenerable" in the one encounter they had. It looked like the cop (or the FBI woman, I forget which), shot Sylar square in the chest a couple of times. The dude just stood up and disappeared. Maybe he was wearing body armor, maybe the missed, it was really hard to tell exactly what went down.
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10-31-2006, 11:48 AM
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Agreed. I'm not sure Sylar really needs her power. I like Mr. Wednesday's theory. Maybe they just need to save the cheerleader so Peter can leech her power and survive a big brawl with Sylar.
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10-31-2006, 12:25 PM
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Could it be the Eclipse that happened on the first show? The artist has a painting of it that they show quite a bit. |
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10-31-2006, 12:36 PM
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How often does a full eclipse happen thought? These characters are in their 20's to 40's (approx) and the cheerleader is 18. So in all of those years, no eclipse happened?
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10-31-2006, 12:44 PM
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I dunno. Maybe it was a special eclipse? ***shrug*** 100% pure guess. |
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10-31-2006, 12:55 PM
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I haven't gotten a real great feel for the format of the show yet, but I hope they get back to featuring all the characters, rather than spending so much time on just a few. They barely showed Peter in last night's episode (just in the opening scene) and I didn't see the police officer or the congressman, at all.
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10-31-2006, 01:00 PM
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rather Lostish, wouldn't you say?
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10-31-2006, 01:06 PM
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Ok, so last night was almost my first disappointment with the show, because it didn't really seem to move along very well. Then BAM! Hand to hand fighting between two 'heroes', that kicked ass to finally see.
Then, once it was finally confirmed I began thinking about what powers does D.L.'s and Nikki's son have, if any? Also, I end up thinking it was possibly an important episode for one character that I figured wasn't too important, that is Ando. He was just kind of the guy who was tagging along, not really caring, and I figured would die sometime not too far off in the future (not that he still couldn't). Still, him encouraging Hiro near the end of the episode, and basically helping restore his faith in what is happening was a big thing that may be overlooked. It really solidified is role in the show for me.
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10-31-2006, 01:08 PM
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[whisper]save the cheerleader...save the world[/whisper]
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10-31-2006, 01:10 PM
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Looked to me like Peter and the cop are big parts in next weeks episode.
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10-31-2006, 01:18 PM
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I don't think the stripper's bad side is purely evil. I think she is single-mindedly focused on protecting her kid at any cost.
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10-31-2006, 01:20 PM
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When she originally setup DL and killed his crew, that wasn't protecting the kid. |
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10-31-2006, 01:28 PM
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So why didn't the stripper or her alter ego use the money in the attic to pay off her debt to the Casino owner? I really don't understand the whole money problems angle when there was $2 Million in the house the whole time.
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10-31-2006, 01:32 PM
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You know, I was thinking the same thing. It doesn't make much sense at all. That said, Good Ali didn't know the money was there. Evil Ali did. And Evil Ali doesn't really seem like the kind of person who would just start taking money out of her hard earned blood money to pay the bills or tuition or any of that nonsense. Even after Good Ali borrowed the money from the Casino owner, Evil Ali seems much more likely to rip apart the guy's people as opposed to meekly paying him off. Evil Ali has many issues. She's a force of chaos, no doubt. Perhaps there is a larger plan for the $2 million.
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10-31-2006, 01:36 PM
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Yeah, I also thought about that. But Evil Ali went through with the whole sleep with the congressman plan, when it would seem she'd me annoyed with having to do anything someone has told her to do. And I still don't buy that Evil Ali is altogether evil, she seems sincerely concerned with Ali and the kid.
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I think Ando is going to end up on the "bad" side.
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10-31-2006, 01:37 PM
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Also... could DL (that's the boyfriend, right?) be Sylar? They seem to have similar powers, from the little we saw last night.
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10-31-2006, 01:41 PM
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DL seemed like he was a real decent guy to me once they actually let you in on the fact he was set up and not a cold blooded killer. I think Sylar is going to have to be one twisted mofo, and not someone who would give a shit about his kid much. I think we see the real DL. I suspect we find out more about Sylar next week, just based on the shots in the preview for next week, of the FBI chick and the cop with guns out going into a room. They aren't really going to be working together unless they are working on the Sylar case.
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10-31-2006, 01:48 PM
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evil stripper is all about manipulation. she's working on a grander plan.
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10-31-2006, 01:48 PM
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Based on what we saw from Sylar it appeared he had some sort of "mind control" ability (forcing the FBI woman to turn the gun on herself), or perhaps telekensis (forcing the hand/gund with his mind and the people being impaled by household objects), some sort of invulnerability (getting right back up after being shot), and some ability to "disappear" (could be anything: teleport, flight, walk through walls, super-speed, or just an uncanny ability to do that. e.g, Batman). I'm pretty sure he's not DL. We also heard Sylar's voice on a call and it didn't sound anything like him.
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10-31-2006, 01:51 PM
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On the geography of the show:
Las Vegas: Stripper, DL, Micah, Heiro, Ando New York: Peter, Isaac, Mohinder, Nathan LA: Sylar, Matt the cop ???: Claire, Claire's dad, and the memory erasing guy I could be wrong on some of that...
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10-31-2006, 01:55 PM
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Claire and family are in Texas, they just haven't given a town name yet that I know of.
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I think that's right. For some reason I thought the cheerleader was in Texas, but I have no idea why. Claire's dad and Mindwipe were in Vegas for at least a short while (to grab Nathan), but quickly returned to... Quote:
Ok, good. I was not just making that up in my head.
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10-31-2006, 01:56 PM
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I think they're somewhere in Texas. I remember when we first saw the cheerleader, they had the name of the town... edit: Was beaten to the answer. But I'm pretty sure the first time we see her and that guy filming her, they showed the town name... El Paso comes to mind for some reason. Last edited by MikeVic : 10-31-2006 at 01:57 PM. |
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10-31-2006, 01:57 PM
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They are in Texas, they have mentioned it at some point. As for Claire's dad, he seems to get around pretty fast. Private government jet, or someone's super power has to be involved with it. He was in New York and then in Texas not long after that one time, and then the Vegas trip and back to Texas didn't take too long it seemed.
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10-31-2006, 02:04 PM
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Claire is in Texas. They've said the town, but I forget what it is.
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10-31-2006, 02:19 PM
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10-31-2006, 02:24 PM
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Cheerleader and father are in Odessa, TX.
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10-31-2006, 02:25 PM
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Just to be clear...
Where does the Cheerleader live again?
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10-31-2006, 02:28 PM
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I think she is Canadian. 
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10-31-2006, 02:32 PM
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10-31-2006, 02:37 PM
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It was weird last week to see Hiro friend goto the stripper's house without knocking on the door.
He went thru the back door and just open the door. I tought that was weird because he never met her in person. |
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Since everyone's pointed out the Texas thing, I'd make the following amendments: 1) Mindwipe guy isn't from Texas, I don't believe. In fact, I don't think he's had any hometown indicated, period. Rather, he's a subordinate of Cheerleader's dad, which could be interesting, figuring out what Mindwipe's guys origins are. 2) Hiro and Ando are on their way to New York. 3) You forgot Eden in New York! 
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10-31-2006, 04:44 PM
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It was at the end of the episode two weeks ago, and the beginning of the episode last week. Are you even watching the show? 
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10-31-2006, 06:38 PM
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Regarding the scar - In the context of Hiro's comments, I don't believe Hiro makes it to NY before Peter gets the scar. Otherwise, it wouldn't have been such a novelty for him to mention it.
I've caught up with the online comic too, some good background info is definitely given. Favorite piece so far is the origin of Hiro's name. He was named after Hiroshima.
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I wasn't implying that he got the scar before Hiro gets to NY, or the time frame at all. Just curious about the comment in general, as to how he gets such a disfiguring scar. I doubt he would mention it, if it wasn't something blatantly obvious.
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10-31-2006, 06:49 PM
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re: how they got their superpowers / eclipse...
The show's "sign" (if you will) is "HEROES" with the 'O' being an eclipse. So I definately think that is important to the whole thing. Maybe that's why they tell you not to look at the sun during an eclipse  .
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10-31-2006, 06:59 PM
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Btw, just read the comic this week... wow... that was awesome
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So most of these heroes are about 18 to 40 years old approx. So in 18+ years there wasn't an eclipse? If an eclipse set off their powers, you would think they at some point in their lives would've noticed their powers far before just a few weeks ago.
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I was also thinking the same thing. Her character is the most perplexing to me, at least the motivation of the character. As far as what caused all of those people to get their powers, I don't think it was the eclipse. It seems at least Ali Larter's character was manifesting her power before the eclipse since she set up DL which I don't think was recent. I'm not sure what is causing the powers to be stronger now. I think the Cheerleader's dad genuinely cares for her and that he will end up being more of a lawful neutral character. I agree with those that think Peter will need to borrow Claire's power and that is why it is critical that they save her. I think there is zero chance of DL being Sylar. Now, that we are getting to see his character, he seems like too much of a nice guy to be Sylar. |
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I believe in the first ep we are told of an eclipse happening (I think I remember Mikah saying something about seeing it). Perhaps these dormant heroic abilities were stirred by the eclipse which may have been 'altered' somehow. Maybe the horned rim glasses dad is behind it.
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I don't think the eclipse had anything really to do with it. Sylar would have been doing what he does, and have had powers before then. Nikki would have had to have her powers (other personality) before then, too. I get the impression horned rim glasses knew about the cheerleader long before she did. The younger Petrelli brother mentioned his feet had hovered a little as he got out of bed, and said it was days or a week before. That would put it before the eclipse(this was in episode one, talking to the older brother). Horned rim glasses mindwipe friend seems much further along with his power then others, which tells me he has known of it longer. I am sure there are other examples I am missing.
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the powers had to have been around before the eclipse, Mohinder's father had tons of research on the topic of human evolution/powers/innate super abilities. his map with all those areas being noted and cross referenced suggest being in contact with people who had abilities.
if anything, the heroes might've had some sporadic weird happenings and it took the eclipse to finally bring out their powers to their fullest potential. Hiro himself was only able to stop time in the first episode, but he wouldn't have been trying if he didn't have some underlying notion that he could do it, must've been experiencing his power at a very low level for him to have been practicing his abilities in his cube that first episode. even Peter seemed to have weird feelings about himself, like he knew something was up with him all his life and the eclipse finally let his power loose. the only thing that seems weird is evil ali having framed DL. that obviously took place before the eclipse. HA's theory on why Evil Ali is not dead: first off, i say she really was killed. secondly, i think Hiro seemed a little too intent on going back in time to stop the poker players from getting killed (who he doesn't know was killed by Evil Ali). i think he's gonna go back in time and do it (soon) and by doing that cause a rift in the space/time continuum which will alter the events of the DL/Ali storyline. Last edited by Anthony : 11-01-2006 at 12:11 AM. |
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The eclipse had SOME significance though. It stirred something. That's why a bunch of people suddenly are realizing their full potential. And there is a reason why the 'O' in the 'HEROES' is an eclipse. It's gotta be something, or else why put all that time into making it stand out?
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I will give you that, no problem. Just meant to point out that it was not something that gave them powers. Like HA said, maybe let them reach full potential. And I never noticed the 'O' was an eclipse, oops. 
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******** I thought they already explained this--or am I just assuming the answer? The O in Heroes is an eclipsed sun. I thought that the eclipse triggered the chromosomal anomaly to metamorphize into a supernatural ability.
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Is it possible that evil stripper is Sylar? We don't really know the extent of her powers, but it's obvious she has increased strength based on the last episode.
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