FOFC Literature Draft - Picks Thread

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Izulde

To be fair, the Musketeers Saga was in part a defensive ploy, because I knew if I left it hanging there, somebody was likely to grab The Count of Monte Cristo for their fiction choice, which would've gotten a lot of voter interest.

Nearly every man, woman and child have heard of the 3 Musketeers (from the many cartoons and movies made). It is far superior pick than Monte Cristo which most don't know what it is about.

[Warhammer]

I think that my picks will not truly shine unless you compare them to the other books in each category. So far, I think I have the best poem (certainly top 2 or 3), the best sports book, and one of the top 3 series with Narnia. The only potential miss that I could see getting dinged for with the voters is Catch-22, but out of what has been selected for fiction, I'll put it up against any of them.

[Izulde]

It's after 6 EST. Where's DT with his pick?

[Eaglesfan27]

I've never payed very close attention to other drafts. How does one become a voter at the end? Is it just open to all board members?

[Warhammer]

Just vote.

[Vince]

Maple Leafs is just blowing me away with every pick. How Shakespeare can't be considered a Home Run is a mystery to me.

My top four:

1. Maple Leafs
2. larrymcg421
3. Warhammer
4. cartman

I have just about everyone clustered right behind these guys. Second place is completely wide open at this point, methinks, but Maple Leafs has a clear lead at the moment.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Warhammer

I think that my picks will not truly shine unless you compare them to the other books in each category. So far, I think I have the best poem (certainly top 2 or 3), the best sports book, and one of the top 3 series with Narnia. The only potential miss that I could see getting dinged for with the voters is Catch-22, but out of what has been selected for fiction, I'll put it up against any of them.

I agree, I will grade the picks on a curve. That's what I was saying about the Series in regards to NoMyths. Didn't really think about that at first but it makes the most sense.

[Vince]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Nearly every man, woman and child have heard of the 3 Musketeers (from the many cartoons and movies made). It is far superior pick than Monte Cristo which most don't know what it is about.

I think that the 3 Musketeers is [Izulde's] 2nd best pick so far, behind The Art of War. I also think that the Musketeers Saga is a far superior choice to the Count of Monte Cristo, regardless of which is actually a superior piece of literature.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Vince

I think that the 3 Musketeers is [Izulde's] 2nd best pick so far, behind The Art of War. I also think that the Musketeers Saga is a far superior choice to the Count of Monte Cristo, regardless of which is actually a superior piece of literature.

And that's the key. It's not about superior literature for most of the categories and I think Izulde accidently stumbled into a nice pick there. Ball Four is not good literature, but man, if you are over the age of 30, you have heard of it (if that's a good example).

[MrDNA]

Looking back at my remarks, I think I meant Shakespeare in Fiction didn't seem like a homerun to me. As in, compared to other possible fiction choices - now as poetry... perhaps better. If only there was a drama section - Waiting for Godot, Death of a Salesman, Glass Menagerie... I'm pretty far off topic now. Meh.

[Warhammer]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Ball Four is not good literature, but man, if you are over the age of 30, you have heard of it (if that's a good example).

Exactly. Ball Four isn't great literature, but it had a HUGE impact in the way sports are covered, not only from a literary point of view, but a journalistic one as well. So even greater works of literature that came after still owe a huge debt of gratitude to that book.

[sabotai]

Uh Oh, we have a "that guy" now.

[Warhammer]

Originally Posted by MrDNA

If only there was a drama section

Yeah, I wish there was a wild card, miscellaneous, or some other catch all category.

[DaddyTorgo]

I hate everyone that doesn't respect my picks :-P

[DaddyTorgo]

I just need to check that my pick hasn't been taken by someone...one sec

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I hate everyone that doesn't respect my picks :-P

I liked your 3rd round pick and thought it was very solid.

[Warhammer]

Get on with it!

[DaddyTorgo]

chief rum is a bastard and took my pick for poetry. Re-assessing

[DaddyTorgo]

clarification - single poem, or book of poetry?

[NoMyths]

Single poem.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I liked your 3rd round pick and thought it was very solid.

+1

This would have been a homerun for short stories as well. Just about everyone have heard of Little Red Riding Hood, Snow White, Cinderella or Hansel/Gretel.

[DaddyTorgo]

screwit i'm picking. Everyone has me losing anyways. I'm picking with it being a book of poetry, versus the single-poem approach some others have seemed to use. So reward/penalize me for that

1. Fiction
2. Single Short Story
3. Poem: 5.5 Leaves of Grass, Walt Whitman
4. Fantasy/Science Fiction: 4.6 FARENHEIT 451, RAY BRADBURY
5. Series (A set of books continuing the same story and intended to be read sequentially) 1.5 The Foundation Series, Isaac Asimov
6. Sport Related
7. Children's 3.5 Children's and Household Tales (1857 - 211 stories) by The Brothers Grimm
8. Non-Fiction
9. Biography/Autobiography 2.6 Autobiographical Notes, Albert Einstein
10. History

[sabotai]

My top 3 looks like this so far:

1) Maple Leafs
2) Cartman
3) larrymcg421

Maple Leafs has a pretty decent lead, but it's still early and a few of the catagories are pretty vacant (which is helping ML a lot at this point). Once those catagories start filling up, he may slide down my leaderboard. I still have it pretty close among everyone else.

[Buccaneer]

You guys are heavily penalizing Axxon for his Non-Fiction (King) pick?

[DaddyTorgo]

gotta show some love for Whitman. America's first real great homegrown poet.

[Warhammer]

I really don't get how some people are going with their votes right now. Taking myself out of the equation, I still don't understand how people are voting.

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

gotta show some love for Whitman. America's first real great homegrown poet.

You do realize you could've stayed with a single poem as the category dictates and still done well with Whitman, yes?

[sabotai]

You'd think the word "Poem" would be self-explanatory, but I guess not.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Izulde

You do realize you could've stayed with a single poem as the category dictates and still done well with Whitman, yes?

does the category dictate single poem??

in that case it'd be When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd, by Walt Whitman

[DaddyTorgo]

if you want to make that my official pick (the poem) that's fine. I just went with the whole work because there's a lot more in there that's solid too. idk

[NoMyths]

O.O

Not, perhaps, the most solid strike on a second attempt.

[MrDNA]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

screwit i'm picking. Everyone has me losing anyways. I'm picking with it being a book of poetry, versus the single-poem approach some others have seemed to use. So reward/penalize me for that

1. Fiction
2. Single Short Story
3. Poem: 5.5 Leaves of Grass, Walt Whitman
4. Fantasy/Science Fiction: 4.6 FARENHEIT 451, RAY BRADBURY
5. Series (A set of books continuing the same story and intended to be read sequentially) 1.5 The Foundation Series, Isaac Asimov
6. Sport Related
7. Children's 3.5 Children's and Household Tales (1857 - 211 stories) by The Brothers Grimm
8. Non-Fiction
9. Biography/Autobiography 2.6 Autobiographical Notes, Albert Einstein
10. History

Whitman considered Leaves of Grass one coherent work, FWIW. Also, this would've been my poetry pick. DT shoots up my chart with his last two picks (as in, he might now be ON my chart )

[Warhammer]

If NoMyths takes my pick, I'm gonna be ticked... This pick will seal up the last of my questionable categories.

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by NoMyths

O.O

Not, perhaps, the most solid strike on a second attempt.

"

but at least it matches the category now.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by NoMyths

O.O

Not, perhaps, the most solid strike on a second attempt.

so sayeth you...and you would have picked which?

[MrDNA]

...but if I had to pick one section of the work, it would've been his moving elegy of Lincoln.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by MrDNA

Whitman considered Leaves of Grass one coherent work, FWIW. Also, this would've been my poetry pick. DT shoots up my chart with his last two picks (as in, he might now be ON my chart )

that's what I was always taught too.

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by Warhammer

If NoMyths takes my pick, I'm gonna be ticked... This pick will seal up the last of my questionable categories.

If either of you take either of the picks I have planned for 5.9 and 6.2 I'm gonna be annoyed.

[NoMyths]

DT: I'd have taken "Song of Myself".

[DaddyTorgo]

had other stuff I was considering, but when it came down to it I just said "go with whitman" idk why exactly

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by NoMyths

DT: I'd have taken "Song of Myself".

Ditto, if I was picking Walt Whitman.

[Warhammer]

Originally Posted by Izulde

If either of you take either of the picks I have planned for 5.9 and 6.2 I'm gonna be annoyed.

There is a chance I might, since both of my picks are in categories I don't think you've picked anything from.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by NoMyths

DT: I'd have taken "Song of Myself".

but "Lilacs" is a much more...known poem. And idk...I'm still sticking with the "whole book as one coherent work" theory. Same thing with Brothers Grimm. I provide the best value-for-money. Anyone else can pick Frost or Coleridge or whatever, but those guys can't put together an entire book the caliber of "Leaves of Grass."

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

but "Lilacs" is a much more...known poem. And idk...I'm still sticking with the "whole book as one coherent work" theory. Same thing with Brothers Grimm. I provide the best value-for-money. Anyone else can pick Frost or Coleridge or whatever, but those guys can't put together an entire book the caliber of "Leaves of Grass."

Lilacs a much more-known poem?



No way.

[NoMyths]

Hoisting you by your own petard: and Leaves of Grass isn't an entire book on the caliber of The Divine Comedy.

Man I'm having a tough time choosing between two options.

[Warhammer]

NoMyths is up, right?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Izulde

Lilacs a much more-known poem?



No way.

among lay-people...sure. I'd venture to say so. Or maybe that's just my circle of people (the history-folk)...idk. Whatever. 95% of those who are offering their judgements have me nowhere near winning, so i'm not too concerned about the relative merits of one Whitman poem vs. another

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by NoMyths

Hoisting you by your own petard: and Leaves of Grass isn't an entire book on the caliber of The Divine Comedy.

Man I'm having a tough time choosing between two options.

true. That can stand up to this. As can shakespeare.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by NoMyths

Hoisting you by your own petard: and Leaves of Grass isn't an entire book on the caliber of The Divine Comedy.

Man I'm having a tough time choosing between two options.

What is a petard and why would someone be hoisted by it?

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by Warhammer

NoMyths is up, right?

Yep.