05-07-2003, 05:43 PM | #501 | |
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You could argue that, despite all the expansion and 'growth' of the league in the past decade, it is hardly more popular than it was before. Alienating your core fan base is not a good way to make things more popular IMO. |
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05-07-2003, 06:58 PM | #502 | |
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Exactly. Hockey Night in Canada on Saturday night has been on TV since 1952, and radio since 1933, a tradition a bit longer than Monday Night Football. Yet, I'm sure football fans would be pissed if a network exec decided to uproot MNF for Monday afternoon. |
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05-07-2003, 07:06 PM | #503 | |
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I didn't find it unreasonable or ridiculous. Quite the opposite in fact. There will always be a national rivalry. If a Canadian-based NHL team with 20 Europeans was playing an American-based NHL team with 20 Canadians, I'd still be cheering for the Canadian-based team. |
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05-07-2003, 07:13 PM | #504 | |
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The assumption is that the ABC scheduling of the playoffs is actually with an intention to "grow the sport". I think bbor has already demonstrated this isn't the case. Ratings are hurting all the way around because of these decisions and frankly ABC doesn't really care. The shuffling off of the games to afternoons, delayed starts, simultaneous games followed by none the next night, are clear indications to me ABC is not interested in doing anything but lowering the price they'll pay for any additional broadcast rights. |
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05-07-2003, 09:10 PM | #505 | |
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Great point...i never even thought of that
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05-07-2003, 09:16 PM | #506 | |
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I love hockey, and I can't imagine going without it for a season or more. But if that's what it takes to fix the NHL, I'm for it. If there's a lengthy lockout and four, six, even eight teams die because of it, I think that may not be a bad thing. |
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05-07-2003, 09:37 PM | #507 |
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Minnesota up two to nothing with 5:00 left in the second period...
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05-07-2003, 11:05 PM | #508 |
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ML...i think Cards was refering to the nhl growing in fan base.Not growing as in adding more teams.
BTW....I think the Nucks may be done.Minny has all the confidence.
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05-07-2003, 11:29 PM | #509 |
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I was not referring to adding more teams, I was referring to the fan base.
I think that you guys think that hockey is exclusive to Canada and should revolve around that country, and anything I say isn't going to change your mind.
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05-08-2003, 01:10 AM | #510 |
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Svehla retired(again)
Let the Hatcher sweepstakes begin.If the Leafs lose out on him they are fucked. Calle Johansson will be 2nd prize. HB....how you feel bout the wings letting Robitaille go?
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05-08-2003, 03:14 AM | #511 | |
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Eh, I think he time here was done. He was a class act and was solid in 2002. The first half. From a little past the midway point of 2002, throughout the 2002 playoffs, and all of this year's regular season he did pretty much squat. 11 goals all year? 11? Lucky Luc is a goal scorer. If he's not scoring, he's really not adding much. That being said, he did have a decent playoffs. All... four.... games of it. His playing time was also severely diminished. He was a 4th liner and, even at his advanced age, deserves more. Also, it's tough paying a 4th line winger $4 million a year. The Wings lost a lot of money because they didn't advance. Cuts needed to be made. They will also have to try and sign Fedorov to a big deal. So freeing up the cash will be benefit there as well. The Wings have some decent talent that is younger and cheaper. Jason Williams will likely take his spot and would have to clear waivers next year. Devereaux may benefit from more ice time. In addition there are Grigrorenko and Hulder playing in Europe who could (very slim chance) play in the NHL next year. Luc came in. Won his Cup. And it's time to move on. No hard feelings. Wish him the best of luck. |
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05-08-2003, 03:15 AM | #512 | |
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Cloutier... crumbling... Mental soundness... breaking... up... She can't take much more, Captain! |
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05-08-2003, 07:59 AM | #513 | |
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I don't think Hatcher is going anyplace.
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05-08-2003, 08:20 AM | #514 | |
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I agree. I would be hard pressed to see big Hatch go elsewhere. Dallas should have the financial means to keep the big palooka. He's their captain, has had a stellar year, and pretty intergral to their succcess. Though, after the year he's had, he has every right to go out there and seek Bobby Holik type money. He's what every team wants, the big, mean, crease-clearing defenseman. If Dallas is financially strapped after the last few years of free agent madness, I guess it could be possible that another team may swoop in and offer Hatch the mother lode. |
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05-08-2003, 08:27 AM | #515 |
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He should go back to where he started his career!
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05-08-2003, 09:19 AM | #516 | |
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I reckon that would be pee-wee hockey somewhere in Dearborn, Michigan. That's a suburb of Detroit. If we can accept Chelios, we can accept (almost) anyone. Hometown boy done good and all... |
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05-08-2003, 09:30 AM | #517 | |
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Way to go Wild!
As far as the Hatcher situation, here is part of an interview he recently did with the Hockey Digest. I nicked this from Andrews Dallas Stars page: Quote:
So I think he's pretty sure he's going to be in the market for $5-$6 million. He was making about $4 million per year (I think). Hopefully, he'll stay here, but if he does that could mean that Sydor and/or Matvichuk are going to be avaliable. I hope not, but them's the rumors. |
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05-08-2003, 09:45 AM | #518 | |
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I was thinking along the lines of his pro career!
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05-08-2003, 12:22 PM | #519 |
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The Leafs are in such a defensive crunch i could see them ponying up 6-7 mil for Hatcher.
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05-08-2003, 12:38 PM | #520 | |
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Assuming of course he even makes it to free agency, which I doubt. |
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05-08-2003, 12:58 PM | #521 |
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How you feel about Johansson ML?
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05-08-2003, 01:28 PM | #522 |
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Hasn't Johansson ran the PP in Washington? Is that what you are looking for? He's getting up there, he's 36.
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05-08-2003, 02:40 PM | #523 | |
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05-08-2003, 02:56 PM | #524 |
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They need a 3/4 guy as well as a #1 guy IMHO
Mccabe-Kaberle-Berg Will all be back Housley-gone Lumme-Gone(?) Wesley-???? Coliacovo-?? Jackman-7 or 8th at best If wesley stays they will prolly just try and sign Johansson and try to get away with that. If Wesley goes back to Carolina(which is most likely) i think they have no ther choice but to get Hatcher...or dangle Coliacovo out as trade bait for a top 2 D-man
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05-08-2003, 03:14 PM | #525 | |
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Now that said, the 92-93 Leafs had one of the best defenses I've seen, and none of those guys were better than a #3. They were just a group of five rock-solid guys who knew what to do, so maybe you can get away without a #1 if everyone knows their job. By the way, I haven't seen any reports confirming Svehla's retirement. Have you? |
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05-08-2003, 03:25 PM | #526 |
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Can anyone point me to a list of FA's?
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05-08-2003, 03:46 PM | #527 |
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Svehla announced his retirement from the NHL yesterday.But he is still gonna play in his hometown.
It was on most of the major sports stations yesterday. Can't help ya with the FA list Cards...perhaps on NHL.com?
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05-08-2003, 04:01 PM | #528 |
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Couldn't find one there.
I figure the Wild with all this playoff money should splash out for a scorer next year and I want to help shop!
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05-08-2003, 05:23 PM | #529 |
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The game last night was awesome! GO WILD!!!
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05-08-2003, 05:48 PM | #530 |
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It's starting to look more and more like Cloutier is French-Vancouverian for "sieve".
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1-0 Vancouver
8:30 left in the second period... |
05-08-2003, 10:36 PM | #532 |
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2-1 late in the second. Interesting line change for Vancouver, moving Bertuzzi with the Sedin's
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05-08-2003, 10:44 PM | #533 | |
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ROTF!!
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05-08-2003, 10:53 PM | #534 |
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1 period left to go, I'm thinking OT
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05-08-2003, 11:09 PM | #535 | |
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That would be great, but do you think your nerves could handle it? |
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05-08-2003, 11:14 PM | #536 |
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2-2 about halfway through, Walz scores
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05-08-2003, 11:28 PM | #537 |
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3-2 5:12 left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hendrickson for Minnesota!
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05-08-2003, 11:29 PM | #538 |
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Holy Canuck collapse Batman! Never would have thought the Wild had a chance down 3 games to 1, then down 2-0 in Game 7, but these guys are just amazing.
Well that and Cloutier.......oh buddy, give Roman a call if your boys don't bail you out and come back to win this one.
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05-08-2003, 11:29 PM | #539 |
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What a brutal goal.Cloutier should be ashamed of himself.
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05-08-2003, 11:31 PM | #540 |
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Bertuzzi just took a stupid penalty
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05-08-2003, 11:31 PM | #541 |
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Guess all the ability in the world doesn't stop you from being a cheap shot artist too. Oh Bertuzzi, the only thing stopping me from hoping the Canucks win the Cup.
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05-08-2003, 11:31 PM | #542 |
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Stupid penalty....Nucks are losing their composure now.
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05-08-2003, 11:34 PM | #543 |
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Done and done
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05-08-2003, 11:34 PM | #544 |
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WOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
4-2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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05-08-2003, 11:34 PM | #545 |
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05-08-2003, 11:36 PM | #546 |
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All of this with Gaborik not playing much, incredible
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05-08-2003, 11:41 PM | #547 |
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Minnesota makes History!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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05-08-2003, 11:42 PM | #548 |
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What a choke
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05-08-2003, 11:43 PM | #549 |
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Okay, now then, who wins the West? A tired Wild coming off back to back 3-1 series deficits, or a rested Ducks team with the hottest goalie in the playoffs, but little to no scoring?
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Who knows, should be interesting. Anaheim handled the Wild during the season, and who would bet against JSG right now.
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