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11-08-2016, 10:39 PM | #5152 |
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Georgia to Trump per Fox News.
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11-08-2016, 10:40 PM | #5153 |
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11-08-2016, 10:41 PM | #5154 |
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On the bright side, for either side, regardless of who wins, I'm almost certain the next President will end up being a 1 term President. I don't see how either turns their "unlikable" numbers around and the other side just has to run someone who is likable and will probably win.
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11-08-2016, 10:42 PM | #5155 |
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Is there a reason why CNN hasn't called Georgia for Trump yet?
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11-08-2016, 10:42 PM | #5156 |
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Last time Clinton was in Wisconsin was in April.
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11-08-2016, 10:43 PM | #5157 |
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2 Paths to President Trump:
1. Michigan 2. NH + AZ + AK
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11-08-2016, 10:46 PM | #5160 |
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NYT is projecting NH to Clinton. If that happens and she wins Nevada and Michigan, it's a fuckin' tie. Assuming Pennsylvania also.
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11-08-2016, 10:47 PM | #5162 | |
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Which is still a loss for Clinton.
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11-08-2016, 10:48 PM | #5163 |
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Interesting to see who got this the most wrong. The Huffington Post and PredictWise models had Clinton at 98%+
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11-08-2016, 10:49 PM | #5164 |
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Still feeling cruel joke outcome at the very end,possibly even with a "called" state being flipped.
No,I'm not suggesting corrupt shenanigans. I might be suggesting I feel a little "drama enhancement" by networks hoping to retain viewers.
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11-08-2016, 10:49 PM | #5165 |
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Agreed. And I don't blame CNN one iota for taking their time. The outcome doesn't change based on any timestamp.
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11-08-2016, 10:50 PM | #5166 |
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So many mixed emotions. Can't stand him at all but hate her with a passion. It would be like watching the Patriots beat the Cowboys in the super bowl.
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11-08-2016, 10:53 PM | #5167 |
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11-08-2016, 10:53 PM | #5168 |
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PA is getting tighter but not sure if enough votes left to flip that one. Michigan is getting close, that one could turn.
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Funny you should say that. Sean Hannity was just on Fox News and said there was 'no way' that Ryan retains his speaker of the House position. |
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11-08-2016, 10:54 PM | #5170 |
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So, it looks like there was some fundamental issue with polling in this particular election. One that effectively was not present four years ago, so it doesn't seem like you can be as simple as "pollsters are stupid."
I guess the first draft idea might be that Donald Trump is a certain type of candidate, whose support was repressed in conventional polling methods. That somehow people who supported him, or who eventually supported him, or unwilling to tell a pollster as much. All through the election, I felt there was a weakness in the pedantic nature of the Democratic argument. Every time some luminary, general, past president, Nobel prize winner, or whomever shuck a finger at voters telling them not to vote for Donald Trump… It oddly reinforced his message of change and bucking the system. Last edited by QuikSand : 11-08-2016 at 10:55 PM. |
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11-08-2016, 10:57 PM | #5172 |
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I can't wait until the mass arrests of political and press opponents begin. Go 'merica!
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Simply put, the 'deplorables' and white male electorate showed up in big numbers in response to the beating that they took from Clinton and her supporters. Also, they WAY overestimated the 'female candidate' effect on the female voters. It didn't come through for them like they thought it would. |
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11-08-2016, 10:58 PM | #5174 | |
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Not sure if you're joking or not, but this could be a silver lining for me. I've been waiting for a stumble in the S&P Index to put some money into an index fund (I didn't say I was being smart about it...that money should probably already be there). If it drops a good amount over the next day or two, it'll be time for me to pull the trigger on that. |
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11-08-2016, 10:58 PM | #5175 |
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This guy wins Twitter.
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36k separate them with 87% in...and the liberal stronghold of Philadelphia is just about all reported. Pittsburgh is only 25% in, though. It's going to tight. |
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11-08-2016, 11:04 PM | #5177 |
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MSNBC seems to hinting that the remaining PA votes are going to give it to Trump.
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Could be, but I can't be the only one who is now planning on holding off on the new car purchase, delaying some home improvements, trying to save more money, wanting to see where things go. Of course if you're right, it's a bigger opportunity for you to cash in on my potentially irrational economic fear. Last edited by molson : 11-08-2016 at 11:05 PM. |
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11-08-2016, 11:06 PM | #5179 |
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Wow. Trump has now edged into the lead in Pennsylvania.
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11-08-2016, 11:07 PM | #5180 |
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As a Democrat, you know who I blame? Joe Biden. He wins this easily.
Rachel Maddow on MSNBC had appeared to about lose it a few times. Trump is about to take Pennsylvania, it seems. We're going to get to see what a total outsider governing looks like. As I heard someone mention recently, up until three years ago, Trump was a Democrat. So who the hell knows.
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PA is only a 5K difference now. Didn't see that coming.
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Interesting that, according to 538, Clinton only got 65 percent among Latinos. Trump did much better than Romney did with Latinos. I'm having a hard time buying any polling, exit or otherwise, but we seem to have underestimated the number of Latinos who share Trumps views on Mexicans.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that they included Cuban-Americans in that numbers. Those voters actually voted for Trump more than Clinton. I think this is another clear example of where the models failed pretty badly, especially in Florida. |
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Trump has a legit shot at 300 EV.
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Seth Meyers, this is all your fault!
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Who do we nominate to start the Trump presidency thread?
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11-08-2016, 11:12 PM | #5188 |
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The America that I thought I lived in, or that we were heading to is now dead. This was a once in a lifetime opportunity for Democrats to change the SCOTUS. With the next president likely to seat at least 2, possibly 3 on the court, there will never be another chance to get back here in my lifetime. That's a disturbing thought.
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Maybe this will end the fascination on math nerds trying to tell us who will win.
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Waiting for Fox News to call it. Surely they'll be the first.
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I got into an election bracket. It was who wins this and who wins that.
I said Trump would win with 272 EVs. I think I was the only one who chose Trump in his pool. He is a NEA Dem
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Ahhhhh. America, it is refreshing to see that you are not immune to the wave of WTF that has been sweeping the globe in 2016.
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People are ANGRY and have been for awhile. Not just the white males. And nobody likes to be called an idiot because they were going to vote one way. The Republicans thought if you ignored him, he would go away. They decided to attack him late in the primaries. The democrats decided to just attack him. Hillary tried to play the "gotchya" card in the debates. Everyone, including me, thought all she had to do was show up and she would end up winning. The problem is that's how she viewed it as well. She took things for granted. She didn't feel the need to go to Wisconsin. She kept attacking Trump rather than talking about the issues. In short, she was a horrible, horrible candidate and was from the start. I'm shocked at this, but in hindsight I shouldn't have been. I HATE what is going to happen tonight, but there are very clear reasons why it did. |
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Why does it take some states longer to report than others?
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Karl Rove mentioned that this is the highest percentage of third party voting since 1996. Over 5% of people voted for 'someone else'.
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