Wow - How about the Manning boos? (and draft commentary)

[Cringer]

Phil Simms looks kinda crappy, bad make-up job.....and age i guess.....

[Noop]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Noop can't be happy about which Jones was taken.

Well I am not a Cowboy fan but J. Jones has not done anything to impress me in his career.... he has been solid but nothing that made me say damn that was great. G. Jones has alot of those Damn, Holy Shit, What the fuck type plays...

[ISiddiqui]

So far, my opinion of the new regime is in the toilet.

I still don't know what you got against the EXCELLENT pick of Hall with the first pick. Jenkins with the 2nd wasn't good though.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

Cringer: Antwan Odom if he's still there from Alabama is someone to keep an eye on.

ok, i remember seeing that guys name as a possible late first rounder on some mock drafts..........wonder if he'll last that long? i hope so....of course Sherman hasn't traded any picks today, he must be iching to do so.....maybe move up some to get him.

[DeToxRox]

Bob Sanders .. Excellent pick by Indy. I love the kid. Fast, big hitter, I think he's a better version of his now teammate, Mike Doss.

[tucker rocky]

Oakland could get Greg Jones...a nice fit for them....a player no other team wants.

[ISiddiqui]

Yep, that'd be nice for the Raiders. Jones to run behind Gallery... that'll get him some major yardage.

[DeToxRox]

With fargas already on the team, do you think they'd spend a 2nd on Jones?

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

With fargas already on the team, do you think they'd spend a 2nd on Jones?

Fargas is killing me on my USFL team, take a RB Oakland....

[tucker rocky]

Coach for Oakland is Norv Turner, right?
He did wonders for the Dallas offense when they had Emmitt Smith.
Greg Jones could be...

[DeToxRox]

Solid pick for the Raidah Nation. Another solid linemen.

[tucker rocky]

What is Oakland thinking.....a center in the 2nd.
My gosh Oakland, you need a RB.

[Cringer]

another lineman for the Raiders? WTF?

[JAG]

Oakland has sure helped out their offensive line with this draft. Two of the top players at their positions on the OL.

[GrantDawg]

I'd take Oakland's draft so far. Good players.

[tucker rocky]

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

What is Oakland thinking.....a center in the 2nd.
My gosh Oakland, you need a RB.

I stand corrected... I guess...


OVERVIEW
Great leader who really set the pace for the rest of the offensive line … A relentless warrior on the field, Grove has everything you want a center to have … Tough, physical, aggressive and possesses the intangibles needed to play the game at the highest level … Versatile player who found a home at center in his final year after playing right guard as a junior and sophomore … One of three players in school history to earn unanimous All-America honors, joining center Jim Pyne (1993) and linebacker Corey Moore (1999).
ANALYSIS
Positives: Has thick muscle mass throughout with thick thighs and calves, and broad shoulders and chest … Tough, aggressive player who competes from snap to whistle … Has good initial quickness off the ball and into his blocks … Can reach the down blocks with very good effectiveness … Has the short-area quickness needed to chip and reach block on the linebackers … More stronger than explosive, latching on with his powerful hands to control the defender … Fires off the line with good quickness, showing proper body movement to lock on and drive the defenders off the line in running plays … Makes quick decisions when adjusting to make the reach blocks at the second level, keeping his leg base wide as he mirrors the linebacker's moves … Shows good field vision and fluid feet to adjust and recognize twists and stunts … Has adequate knee bend and body flexibility, with above-average hand placement as he works inside to control … Quick in his kick slide, getting in front to pick up the defensive end while maintaining balance and body control in his slide … Quarterback of the offensive line, rarely making bad blocking assignment calls … Has the tough leadership quality you look for in a center (will grab defenders by the throat if that's what it takes to get the job done) … Plays on his feet and will rarely overextend or get caught out of position.
Negatives: Has good functional strength, but his arms need more muscle development … Can get physical if he has to, but you'd like to see that nasty nature he sometimes displays more often (does not always finish blocks with the fire you'd like) … Does not pull much in Virginia Tech's scheme, but shows adequate agility and balance on the move.

[JeeberD]

Damn...was hoping the Cowboys were going to be able to snag Smiley...

[tucker rocky]

Greg Jones

47. Chicago
48. New Orleans
54. Denver
57. Tennessee
58. San Francisco

?

[JeeberD]

I can see Chicago taking him. The A-Train blows chunks...

[fantastic flying froggies]

Denver just picked Bell
NO has McAllister
SF has Barlow (thanks DTR:o )

[Noop]

Well folks if you want to know why Florida State cant beat Miami look to this draft.

[DeToxRox]

Barlow not Barrow, F³

[Cringer]

guess the Bears don't like getting thier asses run over by Ahman Green...haha...another DT for them

[JeeberD]

Nope, not to Chicago.

I wonder if teams are worried about his knees holding up after blowing them out in college?

[JeeberD]

Awww shit!

Watch the rest of the draft of watch the Mavs kick the crap out of the Kings?

Decisions decisions decisions...

[Cringer]

Vikings just traded up, what are these bastards up to?

[MrBug708]

Oakland has one of the worst offensive lines in football. Good moves so far. Fargas will be fone for them next year

[tucker rocky]

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Greg Jones

47. Chicago
48. New Orleans
54. Denver
57. Tennessee
58. San Francisco

?

Bears, maybe the Titans

[MrBug708]

[quote=JeeberD]

Watch the rest of the draft of watch the Mavs kick the crap out of the Kings?

QUOTE]

Jeeb, have you been drinking?

[Eaglesfan27]

Am I the only one who thinks Detroit gave up too much to move up and get Jones?

[Vince]

Wow, the Niners get Smiley too? Nice

[JeeberD]

[quote=MrBug708]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Watch the rest of the draft of watch the Mavs kick the crap out of the Kings?

QUOTE]

Jeeb, have you been drinking?

Not yet, but I'm about to start.

Kings are gonna have a rough game with a hobbled Bibby...

[Cringer]

I like how Randy Mueller is always introduced as the 2000 GM (or executive) of the year, if he was so great he would have a job

[tucker rocky]

Greg Jones:

Packers, Titans?

[Coffee Warlord]

Possibility of 2 rookie DT's starting for the Bears now. Eesh. Scary thought there.

[tucker rocky]

Ratliff to Cincy... A nice pick

[tucker rocky]

Keiwan Ratliff:

OVERVIEW
Multi-dimensional player who competed on offense as a receiver, defense as a cornerback and special teams as a punt returner … Played in 49 games, including 27 starts … Holds the school career-record for punt return yards with 860, surpassing Jacquez Green's 766 yards (1995-97) … The only player in the NCAA Division I-A ranks to catch a touchdown pass and return an interception on a score as well during the 2002 season … Ranks fifth on the school career-record interceptions list with 12 … Scored six touchdowns in his career: three interception returns (school career-record) , two fumble returns (school season-record) and a reception … Participated in 2767 plays, recording 136 tackles (106 solos) with nine stops behind the line of scrimmage, a pair of sacks, three forced fumbles and 17 pass deflections during his career … Gained 860 yards on 76 punt returns (11.3 avg), 235 yards on 15 kickoff returns (15.7 avg), 260 yards on 12 interceptions (21.7 avg) and 111 yards on a pair of advanced fumble recoveries (55.5 avg).
ANALYSIS
Positives: Plays with good instincts and ball awareness … Smooth and fluid in his back-pedal … Quick to read and diagnose plays in front of him … Has good feet to plant and drive in transition … Takes adequate angles to the ball, making quick adjustments in the deep zone … Has natural hands and ball skills to adjust and catch the ball away from the body's frame … Not a game-breaker on receptions and returns, but has vision and elusiveness in the open … Good worker in the weight room who is respected by his teammates and will make the extra effort to improve his skills … Runs precise routes and is especially effective at settling in the zone and uncovering on underneath routes (could shift to receiver at the pro level due to his natural hands, route-running precision).
Negatives: Has a very thin, narrow frame with thin legs and arms … His slight frame is a major problem when asked to support vs. the run, as he simply gets boxed out and run over by the blockers … Shows good field vision, but seems to want to "play it safe" when it comes to making a decision (bit of a see the quarterback move, then go type and does not seem to anticipate much, preferring to wait for the play to develop rather than initiate the action) … Does not have much of a burst to close out when reacting to the pass … More quick than fast, lacking the top-end speed to cover on long routes … Gives too much cushion playing the deep zone and does not show any desire or toughness vs. the run (will only make the play when he has to in run force) … Slight frame and good hands may be better suited to play receiver at the next level … Lacks the size and power to take on and play physical vs. blocks when working near the line.

AGILITY TESTS
4.6 in the 40-yard dash … 275-pound bench press … 410-pound squat … 265-pound power clean … 39-inch vertical jump … 31 ½-inch arm length … 9 ¼-inch hands.

[tucker342]

Go Gallery! Great to see him go second. Too bad it was The Raiders though... oh well

[tucker rocky]

Henderson picked by NO, in-state player stays home.

[JAG]

Ratliff doesn't sound so hot to me.

[tucker rocky]

KC could pick Greg Jones

[korme]

I have no idea about Ratliff, what do you Floridans know?

[tucker rocky]

Originally Posted by JAG

Ratliff doesn't sound so hot to me.

I was being sarcastic when I posted about Cincy's pick.

[fantastic flying froggies]

Seattle takes Boulware.

[JeeberD]

Wow, big, tall tackle for the Cowboys. We need to get us a couple more of these kind of guys as well...

[tucker rocky]

1st FSU guy goes to Seattle. Boulware.

[JeeberD]

Darius Watts for Denver. Nice...

[Cringer]

Packers turn, i say one of two DE's ....Hill or Odom

[SunDancer]

Originally Posted by VPI97

LOL. Matt Schaub couldn't hold Losman's jock.

Losman is "loved" by the Bills. Would of been soon in the next few picks. Plus, to call last year's pick a "waste", is will be determined this year. Also, next year, I can see the Bills, if McGahee is as good as they hope, dealing Travis Herny.

[tucker rocky]

With all the Miami guys selected, FSU needs to get better recruiters.