2010 College Football Hiring/Firing Thread - Page 10

RomaGoth · 01-04-2011, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

My co-worker brought up the issue of him staying and I said it would be a huge embarrassment. Michigan, of all schools, unwilling to get rid of an obvious cancer and able to replace him even with somebody from SDSU? Demetrius Hart who is a number one all-purpose back and ever going back and forth between Michigan and 'Bama seems to have made the official switch to 'Bama. Michigan's class currently ranks 37th(Rivals) with a mere 13 recruits. Every year he stays the recruiting classes are going to be abysmal and puts the program back another year.

It's almost like Matt Millen took over RichRod's body.......

Dr. Sak · 01-04-2011, 01:43 PM

A couple of people on twitter are saying Rich Rod has been fired.

RomaGoth · 01-04-2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

A couple of people on twitter are saying Rich Rod has been fired.

A couple of the unofficial stories:

Report: Rich Rodriguez Fired From Michigan - NESN University - NESN.com

Rich Rodriguez Fired as Michigans Head Football Coach

Honolulu_Blue · 01-04-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

A couple of people on twitter are saying Rich Rod has been fired.

Please tell me we know who our next coach is. Please tell me we know who our next coach is. Please tell me....

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-04-2011, 02:05 PM

I read earlier from somewhat legitimate news (espn) that he was to meet with Brandon this afternoon and there was a 7pm team meeting to address Rodriguez & the coaching situation.

bronconick · 01-04-2011, 02:07 PM

The guy who broke the story is on the radio right now saying that Brandon and Mary Sue Coleman (UM president) have been in a "tug of war" with boosters, with the boosters wanting Harbaugh, and DB and MSC wanting Hoke.

Matthean · 01-04-2011, 02:08 PM

Rich Rodriguez fired by Michigan Wolverines, report says - ESPN

Officially gone.

dawgfan · 01-04-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick

The guy who broke the story is on the radio right now saying that Brandon and Mary Sue Coleman (UM president) have been in a "tug of war" with boosters, with the boosters wanting Harbaugh, and DB and MSC wanting Hoke.

WTF? Why would Michigan officials prefer Hoke to Harbaugh?

Not that it matters much, as it looks like it's the NFL or Stanford for him...

Matthean · 01-04-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

I read earlier from somewhat legitimate news (espn) that he was to meet with Brandon this afternoon and there was a 7pm team meeting to address Rodriguez & the coaching situation.

ESPN is saying it's a meeting with the players.

Ragone · 01-04-2011, 02:12 PM

michigan wants hoke cause he'd come cheaper then harbaugh i imagine... that would explain why the officials want him..

Matthean · 01-04-2011, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragone

michigan wants hoke cause he'd come cheaper then harbaugh i imagine... that would explain why the officials want him..

They might have figured out he wasn't coming anyway.

bronconick · 01-04-2011, 02:16 PM

I'd throw 4 million at a Kirby Smart before I hired Brady Hoke.

RomaGoth · 01-04-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick

I'd throw 4 million at a Kirby Smart before I hired Brady Hoke.

Even though Hoke has actual head coaching experience?

Ksyrup · 01-04-2011, 02:20 PM

If you didn't get a pretty clear idea of what Jim Harbaugh is going to do (or at least, what he's NOT going to do) in the past several weeks, then you haven't done your job as Michigan AD. Not firing RichRod until the bowl is over makes sense considering his buyout dropped, but you have to imagine they've made some calls to Harbaugh's people. They should have a fairly good idea of whether he would come to Michigan or not. I can't imagine he would stonewall his alma mater to such an extent that it would hurt their ability to find a good replacement.

bronconick · 01-04-2011, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

Even though Hoke has actual head coaching experience?

47-50 in the MAC and MWC? Yeah. No thanks.

Poli · 01-04-2011, 02:23 PM

What? The thread title hasn't been changed yet?

Matthean · 01-04-2011, 02:33 PM

Don't fret if Brady Hoke, not Jim Harbaugh, becomes next Michigan football coach | MLive.com

Granted I started to cringe when I read he used a 3-3-5 defense at one point, but at least he changes it around based on talent. RR seemed to force his system regardless of the talent.

Butter · 01-04-2011, 02:39 PM

I love that the reasoning is pretty much "hey, if you liked our AD hire, you are REQUIRED to like his HC hire!"

RomaGoth · 01-04-2011, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Don't fret if Brady Hoke, not Jim Harbaugh, becomes next Michigan football coach | MLive.com

Granted I started to cringe when I read he used a 3-3-5 defense at one point, but at least he changes it around based on talent. RR seemed to force his system regardless of the talent.

Otto is a hack. His "blog" is mostly rubbish, including his reasoning behind why he thinks Chris Osgood is not HOF worthy.

I don't honestly know if Hoke would be a good hire or not, I just don't know enough about him. His record in the MAC was pretty ho-hum except for the final year, and he has done well at SDSU in only two years. However, how is he with recruiting? How about motivating? And with the media?

Matthean · 01-04-2011, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I love that the reasoning is pretty much "hey, if you liked our AD hire, you are REQUIRED to like his HC hire!"

And what if I don't like the AD hire?

I'm still in wait and see mode. Regardless of who comes in, I don't expect the team to be much of anything for two years and three years will be the point where I would have actual expectations.

dawgfan · 01-04-2011, 02:54 PM

I have only a superficial knowledge of Hoke (just looking at his coaching record and history), but at a distant glance it sure would look like a let-down for Michigan after all the talk this year of Harbaugh and the dalliance 3 years ago with Miles.

Ksyrup · 01-04-2011, 02:59 PM

Why isn't Miles in the conversation this time? Is it him or Michigan that isn't interested?

DeToxRox · 01-04-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

I have only a superficial knowledge of Hoke (just looking at his coaching record and history), but at a distant glance it sure would look like a let-down for Michigan after all the talk this year of Harbaugh and the dalliance 3 years ago with Miles.

People seem to think Les is still an option now.

God help us.

Honolulu_Blue · 01-04-2011, 03:06 PM

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People seem to think Les is still an option now.

God help us.

No me gusta Les Miles.

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-04-2011, 03:18 PM

I think Harbaugh should be choice #1, but that is with the realization that it would likely be a 4-5 year job to rebuild & restore the program before he makes the move to the NFL. Why move to Michigan instead of the NFL now? If he does a similar job at Michigan he could have any NFL job he would want. Period. And he would get better recruits at Michigan than Stanford.

Hoke I am not as familiar with, but everything I have seen about him I believe he would be a very good hire. More of a long-term coach than Harbaugh would seem to be also.

I believe that if Harbaugh ever wants to coach at Michigan, now is the time. If he ends up as another great college coach that takes over a rotten NFL team & does nothing in a few years but pave his way back to college... it wouldn't be at Michigan.

Michigan will be back. Hail! To the Victors!

bronconick · 01-04-2011, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Why isn't Miles in the conversation this time? Is it him or Michigan that isn't interested?

Michigan's not interested

His buyout is really high, he already makes 3.7 million per year, and is considered one of the worse oversigning offenders.

DeToxRox · 01-04-2011, 03:21 PM

From the way people are talking it will be Brady Hoke as the next HC. Apparently some boosters are trying to make a last minute charge for Harbaugh but the money won't compare to the NFL and nor should it.

Hoke to me is a guy who can grow into a great coach. He has ties all over the Midwest and California, he is adaptable and he loves the school.

I don't care that he is a Michigan man and all that nonsense. He is what the program needs because he can coach. It isn't a home run hire, but I wouldn't say it is just a safe, uninspired hire either (if true).

RomaGoth · 01-04-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

From the way people are talking it will be Brady Hoke as the next HC. Apparently some boosters are trying to make a last minute charge for Harbaugh but the money won't compare to the NFL and nor should it.

Hoke to me is a guy who can grow into a great coach. He has ties all over the Midwest and California, he is adaptable and he loves the school.

I don't care that he is a Michigan man and all that nonsense. He is what the program needs because he can coach. It isn't a home run hire, but I wouldn't say it is just a safe, uninspired hire either (if true).

Does his record in the MAC concern you at all? Looking at the overall picture, he didn't appear to do much in a pathetic conference until his last year there, and then he bolted for SDSU. I am asking this in all honesty, as I don't know that much about the guy.

DeToxRox · 01-04-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

Does his record in the MAC concern you at all? Looking at the overall picture, he didn't appear to do much in a pathetic conference until his last year there, and then he bolted for SDSU. I am asking this in all honesty, as I don't know that much about the guy.

Ball State was a mess when he got there. He took a step back and then improved each year. In 08 he got them to their first bowl game since 1989, then went 10-2 in 2009.

SDSU this year was very young and had a 9 win season with their losses @ Missouri (by 3), at BYU (by 3), @ TCU (by 5), vs Utah (by 4).

Logan · 01-04-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Ball State was a mess when he got there. He took a step back and then improved each year. In 08 he got them to their first bowl game since 1989

where he got outcoached by Greg Schiano!

DeToxRox · 01-04-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

where he got outcoached by Greg Schiano!

Still happy we hired RR over Schiano.

JOKES ON YOU

Matthean · 01-04-2011, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

where he got outcoached by Greg Schiano!

He just beat Navy and that's more than ND can say as of late.

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-04-2011, 03:45 PM

Miami didn't even take a sniff at Schiano this time around.

Ksyrup · 01-04-2011, 03:46 PM

Didn't Ball State go from 10 wins to 1 the year after Hoke left? Did he take their practice footballs with him?

bronconick · 01-04-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Ball State was a mess when he got there. He took a step back and then improved each year. In 08 he got them to their first bowl game since 1989, then went 10-2 in 2009.

SDSU this year was very young and had a 9 win season with their losses @ Missouri (by 3), at BYU (by 3), @ TCU (by 5), vs Utah (by 4).

Ball State was meh when he showed up

0-11, 5-6, 5-6, 6-6 in the previous 4 seasons.

He then crapped around for most of a half-decade

4-8, 2-9, 4-7, 5-7, 7-6, 12-1 and struck while the iron was hot.

Logan · 01-04-2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Miami didn't even take a sniff at Schiano this time around.

That's cause his stench already wafts from NJ down to FL.

Matthean · 01-04-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

From the way people are talking it will be Brady Hoke as the next HC. Apparently some boosters are trying to make a last minute charge for Harbaugh but the money won't compare to the NFL and nor should it.

Hoke to me is a guy who can grow into a great coach. He has ties all over the Midwest and California, he is adaptable and he loves the school.

I don't care that he is a Michigan man and all that nonsense. He is what the program needs because he can coach. It isn't a home run hire, but I wouldn't say it is just a safe, uninspired hire either (if true).

Let's say Harbaugh goes to Michigan. He help turns around Michigan in 3-4 years and he gets the call to go pro. He very likely would be gone, or certainly at some point. Hoke is likely to help the program get back on it's feet and then stay there.

Atocep · 01-04-2011, 03:55 PM

Pitt media reporting they're close to a hire. Could be Todd Graham which would be very interesting. He's a guy with the potential to win big there but I wouldn't want him anywhere near my program.

Wonder if he'd take some of Rich's old staff.

RomaGoth · 01-04-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Pitt media reporting they're close to a hire. Could be Todd Graham which would be very interesting. He's a guy with the potential to win big there but I wouldn't want him anywhere near my program.

Wonder if he'd take some of Rich's old staff.

Coincidence this comes the same day Rich gets fired..........

Logan · 01-04-2011, 04:00 PM

Surprised that a HC who appears like he'll have plenty of opportunities either now or in the future would go to Pitt considering a) he would be going in knowing that, at best, he's their second choice and b) that athletic dept looks to be a complete and utter disaster.

DeToxRox · 01-04-2011, 04:04 PM

This is so fucked up.

So Rich was NOT fired yet. He and David Brandon are still in a meeting and people are now saying the team meeting won't happen until tomorrow. This is coming from the Rivals guys right now.

The rumor is they leaked bullshit earlier because Brandon felt their was a mole in the AD's office .. which turned out to be true obviously.

So. So. So. Fucked.

Matthean · 01-04-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

This is so fucked up.

So Rich was NOT fired yet. He and David Brandon are still in a meeting and people are now saying the team meeting won't happen until tomorrow. This is coming from the Rivals guys right now.

The rumor is they leaked bullshit earlier because Brandon felt their was a mole in the AD's office .. which turned out to be true obviously.

So. So. So. Fucked.

Redefining the work awkward.

DeToxRox · 01-04-2011, 04:07 PM

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Redefining the work awkward.

I don't see how it can be true but all signs point to the meeting still going on. They are obviously not keeping him, so why Pizza Dave continues to play this charade is beyond me.

bronconick · 01-04-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

This is so fucked up.

So Rich was NOT fired yet. He and David Brandon are still in a meeting and people are now saying the team meeting won't happen until tomorrow. This is coming from the Rivals guys right now.

The rumor is they leaked bullshit earlier because Brandon felt their was a mole in the AD's office .. which turned out to be true obviously.

So. So. So. Fucked.

That would literally be the dumbest, most infantile thing I've ever heard of a major AD doing.

If you want to test for that, you drop something about the OSU-Michigan game being moved to October again or new names for the Big Ten conferences and see if that trickles out.

You don't do it by dropping a rumor that you're firing a guy, since there are no good reactions to it.

DeToxRox · 01-04-2011, 04:10 PM

And the players meeting is officially moved to 4 PM tomorrow.

Could be to introduce a new HC, but who knows. You'd think RR would want to talk to the team.

RomaGoth · 01-04-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

You'd think RR would want to talk to the team.

See: Randy Edsall

DeToxRox · 01-04-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

See: Randy Edsall

Eh, I think Rich would love one last chance to blame someone other then himself for his failures here.

Atocep · 01-04-2011, 04:16 PM

Ok, fire Rich. Hire Tony Gibson.

Everyone's happy. Except maybe Michigan fans.

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-04-2011, 04:16 PM

JUST GET IT OVER WITH ALREADY.

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-04-2011, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Eh, I think Rich would love one last chance to blame someone other then himself for his failures here.

Don't forget the waterworks.

01-04-2011, 01:43 PM	#452
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	A couple of people on twitter are saying Rich Rod has been fired. Last edited by Dr. Sak : 01-04-2011 at 01:44 PM.

01-04-2011, 02:08 PM	#457
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Rich Rodriguez fired by Michigan Wolverines, report says - ESPN Officially gone. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

01-04-2011, 02:20 PM	#464
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	If you didn't get a pretty clear idea of what Jim Harbaugh is going to do (or at least, what he's NOT going to do) in the past several weeks, then you haven't done your job as Michigan AD. Not firing RichRod until the bowl is over makes sense considering his buyout dropped, but you have to imagine they've made some calls to Harbaugh's people. They should have a fairly good idea of whether he would come to Michigan or not. I can't imagine he would stonewall his alma mater to such an extent that it would hurt their ability to find a good replacement. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-04-2011, 02:23 PM	#466
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	What? The thread title hasn't been changed yet? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-04-2011, 02:33 PM	#467
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Don't fret if Brady Hoke, not Jim Harbaugh, becomes next Michigan football coach \| MLive.com Granted I started to cringe when I read he used a 3-3-5 defense at one point, but at least he changes it around based on talent. RR seemed to force his system regardless of the talent. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

01-04-2011, 02:05 PM	#455
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	I read earlier from somewhat legitimate news (espn) that he was to meet with Brandon this afternoon and there was a 7pm team meeting to address Rodriguez & the coaching situation.

01-04-2011, 02:07 PM	#456
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	The guy who broke the story is on the radio right now saying that Brandon and Mary Sue Coleman (UM president) have been in a "tug of war" with boosters, with the boosters wanting Harbaugh, and DB and MSC wanting Hoke.

01-04-2011, 02:12 PM	#460
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	michigan wants hoke cause he'd come cheaper then harbaugh i imagine... that would explain why the officials want him..

01-04-2011, 02:16 PM	#462
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	I'd throw 4 million at a Kirby Smart before I hired Brady Hoke.

01-04-2011, 02:39 PM	#468
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	I love that the reasoning is pretty much "hey, if you liked our AD hire, you are REQUIRED to like his HC hire!" __________________ My listening habits

01-04-2011, 02:54 PM	#471
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	I have only a superficial knowledge of Hoke (just looking at his coaching record and history), but at a distant glance it sure would look like a let-down for Michigan after all the talk this year of Harbaugh and the dalliance 3 years ago with Miles.

01-04-2011, 02:59 PM	#472
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Why isn't Miles in the conversation this time? Is it him or Michigan that isn't interested? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-04-2011, 03:18 PM	#475
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	I think Harbaugh should be choice #1, but that is with the realization that it would likely be a 4-5 year job to rebuild & restore the program before he makes the move to the NFL. Why move to Michigan instead of the NFL now? If he does a similar job at Michigan he could have any NFL job he would want. Period. And he would get better recruits at Michigan than Stanford. Hoke I am not as familiar with, but everything I have seen about him I believe he would be a very good hire. More of a long-term coach than Harbaugh would seem to be also. I believe that if Harbaugh ever wants to coach at Michigan, now is the time. If he ends up as another great college coach that takes over a rotten NFL team & does nothing in a few years but pave his way back to college... it wouldn't be at Michigan. Michigan will be back. Hail! To the Victors!

01-04-2011, 03:21 PM	#477
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	From the way people are talking it will be Brady Hoke as the next HC. Apparently some boosters are trying to make a last minute charge for Harbaugh but the money won't compare to the NFL and nor should it. Hoke to me is a guy who can grow into a great coach. He has ties all over the Midwest and California, he is adaptable and he loves the school. I don't care that he is a Michigan man and all that nonsense. He is what the program needs because he can coach. It isn't a home run hire, but I wouldn't say it is just a safe, uninspired hire either (if true).

01-04-2011, 03:45 PM	#483
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	Miami didn't even take a sniff at Schiano this time around.

01-04-2011, 03:46 PM	#484
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Didn't Ball State go from 10 wins to 1 the year after Hoke left? Did he take their practice footballs with him? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-04-2011, 03:55 PM	#488
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Pitt media reporting they're close to a hire. Could be Todd Graham which would be very interesting. He's a guy with the potential to win big there but I wouldn't want him anywhere near my program. Wonder if he'd take some of Rich's old staff.

01-04-2011, 04:00 PM	#490
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Surprised that a HC who appears like he'll have plenty of opportunities either now or in the future would go to Pitt considering a) he would be going in knowing that, at best, he's their second choice and b) that athletic dept looks to be a complete and utter disaster.

01-04-2011, 04:04 PM	#491
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	This is so fucked up. So Rich was NOT fired yet. He and David Brandon are still in a meeting and people are now saying the team meeting won't happen until tomorrow. This is coming from the Rivals guys right now. The rumor is they leaked bullshit earlier because Brandon felt their was a mole in the AD's office .. which turned out to be true obviously. So. So. So. Fucked.

01-04-2011, 04:10 PM	#495
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	And the players meeting is officially moved to 4 PM tomorrow. Could be to introduce a new HC, but who knows. You'd think RR would want to talk to the team.

01-04-2011, 04:16 PM	#498
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Ok, fire Rich. Hire Tony Gibson. Everyone's happy. Except maybe Michigan fans.

01-04-2011, 04:16 PM	#499
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	JUST GET IT OVER WITH ALREADY.

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