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Old 06-26-2024, 10:05 PM   #451
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Google OAS and Bolivia. Or read one of the hundred or so books on what we've done to Bolivia for the past 70 years.

I did a quick googling, couldn't find anything that said Trump was connected to a coup in Bolivia
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Old 06-26-2024, 10:19 PM   #452
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Literally the first link dude

What the OAS Did to Bolivia - Center for Economic and Policy Research
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Old 06-27-2024, 04:24 AM   #453
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Link that the US was behind the 2019 coup?
Always good to ask for a source.

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Because we were behind the 2019 coup and have been trying to get their lithium reserves for awhile now. Especially since the country is selling it to China and Russia too.
From reading your article, seems like your beef is more towards the OAS than the US. Unless you believe the OAS is controlled by the US? There is debate whether OAS claim of vote rigging was accurate or not. Your author (the left-wing CEPR guy) says it was not accurate and led to the coup. We also have the EU supporting the OAS claim.

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The OAS report contended that the results were marred by "clear manipulation" and significant irregularities leading to the 2019 Bolivian political crisis. Bolivian president Evo Morales resigned soon after, having lost the confidence of the country's military in what he described as a coup.[11]

Some media outlets debated whether it should be referred to as a coup.[12]

On 21 December, the Technical Mission of Electoral Experts sent by the European Union published a 67-page report made similar observations and conclusions to that of the OAS. They noted that "there were minutes with an unusually high number of null votes, blank votes and a hundred percent participation of voters in a series of polling stations" and highlighted the general failure of the TSE to declare these irregularities.[13][14]

Studies commissioned by the American left-leaning[15][16][17] think tank CEPR argued that the OAS report's statistical analysis was inaccurate and unreliable.[18] The author of the OAS's vote return analysis stated that the CEPR's explanation of the results was implausible.[19]

The organization has been criticized by Mexico[20] and the CEPR[21][better source needed] for their perception of interference into the internal affairs of Bolivia.[22]

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Old 06-30-2024, 06:53 PM   #454
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Bye, bye Macron? He's in third place.

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The RN's share of the vote was comfortably ahead of leftist and centrist rivals, including Macron's Together alliance, whose bloc was seen winning 20.5%-23%. The New Popular Front (NFP), a hastily assembled left-wing coalition, was projected to win around 29% of the vote, the exit polls showed.

The exit polls were in line with opinion surveys ahead of the election, and were met with jubilation by Le Pen's supporters. However, they provided little clarity on whether the anti-immigrant, eurosceptic RN will be able to form a government to "cohabit" with the pro-EU Macron after next Sunday's run-off.
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High turnout on Sunday suggests France is heading for a record number of three-way run-offs. These generally benefit the RN much more than two-way contests, experts say.
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Old 06-30-2024, 08:03 PM   #455
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Bye, bye Macron? He's in third place.


He is not up for election until 2027. This means he is going to have a Prime Minster of the opposing party, and they are going to try to do everything they can to cut him off at the knees. The likely new Prime Minister is a 28 year old nut job. The guy swears he will not accept a coalition government, which means if his party doesn't win a 50% majority, then Macron could still form a government with his party and the far left party. They did not win 50% today, and there is still a good chance they won't.
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Old Yesterday, 05:09 AM   #456
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Sunak is next up today.

No idea who to root for but suspect US-UK relationship will stay relatively strong. Good luck to our BFF.

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The United Kingdom will hold its first national election in almost five years on Thursday, with opinion polls suggesting that Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s Conservative Party will be punished for failing to deliver on promises made during 14 years in power.

The center-right Conservatives took power during the depths of the global financial crisis and have won three more elections since then. But those years have been marked by a sluggish economy, declining public services and a series of scandals, making the Tories, as they are commonly known, easy targets for critics on the left and right.

The Labour Party, which leans to the left, is far ahead in most opinion polls after focusing its campaign on a single word: Change.

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Old Yesterday, 06:50 AM   #457
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And also for Iran on Fri ...

I thought the article below was well written. The "reformer" vs "hardliner" with the reformer likely to win. But it's all relative so on a scale of 1-10 where 10 is very hardline extremist, we're talking about reformer (7) vs hardliner (9).

Iran election: Iranians are voting in a presidential runoff. What will it mean for the world? | CNN
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Iran’s snap presidential election will head to a second vote on Friday, with a reformist and conservative hardliner facing off to replace Ebrahim Raisi amid unprecedented voter apathy.
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Pezeshkian stressed the need to re-start dialogue with the West and find a way to end the sanctions.
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Old Yesterday, 05:01 PM   #458
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Sunak is next up today.

Looks like he's out by a landslide.

The UK elections seem to quick for me but it sure beats 1+ year of campaigning.
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Old Yesterday, 05:54 PM   #459
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Looks like he's out by a landslide.

The UK elections seem to quick for me but it sure beats 1+ year of campaigning.
Conservatives look to hold the least number of seats they have ever held since 1832. That's a spanking for sure.
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Old Yesterday, 06:56 PM   #460
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Imagine if we could do that to the Republican party here:


UK general election: Labour obliterate Tories with historic election win — exit poll – POLITICO
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Old Yesterday, 07:08 PM   #461
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Don't get too optimistic. The Tories are going to move towards Farage and the Reform folks. The battle isn't won yet.
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Old Yesterday, 09:12 PM   #462
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It's a landslide. Our new Prime Minister shaking hands with Elmo:



It's a landslide, a Tory massacre. You love to see it.
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Old Yesterday, 11:09 PM   #463
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I'm watching the speech now! Sherwood Forest is real! And they voted Labour Party!

oh poor Green party. No one likes you
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Old Yesterday, 11:15 PM   #464
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I don't really understand british politics. Looks fascinating.
Can someone explain it to me?
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Old Today, 12:04 AM   #465
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It's a landslide. Our new Prime Minister shaking hands with Elmo:



It's a landslide, a Tory massacre. You love to see it.

i just noticed this picture lol. This is like the silly party from monty python
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Old Today, 02:39 AM   #466
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In a sign of how bad this election went for the Conservatives, Dorking, which has been a Conservative/Tory seat since the late Victorian period (1885), flipped to the Lib Dems
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Old Today, 08:13 AM   #467
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412 seats and less than 34% of the vote.

Crazy.
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Old Today, 09:52 AM   #468
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412 seats and less than 34% of the vote.

Crazy.
It is a strange system. It looks the Reform party is what killed the Tories.
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Old Today, 10:18 AM   #469
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So was that coup in Bolivia fake?

Bolivian president orchestrated a 'self-coup,' political rival Evo Morales claims | AP News
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