01-11-2016, 11:17 PM | #451 |
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550 yards of offense for Clemson. Has to be heartbreaking for them. They played so well except them just stupid coverage/special teams mistakes.
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01-11-2016, 11:18 PM | #452 |
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Done now. Congrats to both teams for a great championship game.
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01-11-2016, 11:18 PM | #453 |
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The thing is, if you said Clemson would score 40 against Alabama before the game, wouldn't you say Clemson wins?
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01-11-2016, 11:19 PM | #454 |
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01-11-2016, 11:20 PM | #455 |
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Give it to Cover. he took some bad sacks, but was otherwise flawless in the two most important games of the year.
He also showed some zip on his throws and decent touch. I think he made himself a little more money this month. |
01-11-2016, 11:22 PM | #456 |
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That score was completely unexpected. Two of the best defenses in the nation give up a combined 85 points. Would have expected scores in the 20s.
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01-11-2016, 11:41 PM | #457 |
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Whoever said Clemson is hiring a special teams coordinator... You're right. They don't have one. I was at the game with my wife tonight, just a great atmosphere. It was a great game for the impartial.
Saban, hate him or not, found a way to exploit Clemson's flaws. They busted coverage a few times this year, and their kick coverages were a mess both ways. Alas. Hopefully Clemson is here to stay, it feels like they are to me.
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Is it THAT impossible though? Clemson gave up 32 to SC, 37 to UNC, and 41 to NC State. A shootout was probably a possibility all along, no matter how we perceived it. Harder to picture with Bama I suppose. They only allowed 40+ once (Ole Miss) but moreso they only allowed 40+ points in any two game stretch when including Ole Miss. edit to add: That's a credit to Watson.
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First tight end to ever be MVP of a title game?
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Idle old broadcaster thought: Scott Van Pelt looks about as comfortable tonight in this post-game / Sportscenter (whatever it is)as any announcer I've seen in a while. Doing standups in that environment, not easy. That's a great zone to be in, much like any performer, sometimes you're just completely at ease.
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Well a lot of times game flow can help create a higher than expected game. Such as UNC trying to come back late. The gameflow in this was actually normal until Alabama got the 12 point lead. Certainly if Clemson or Alabama had gotten off to a 21-0 lead I could have seen the score end up this high but this game was tight throughout. The offenses just outplayed the defenses tonight. |
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Okay, gotta LOL at a callback ... Herbie JUST called Watson "the face of the game" next year (qualified with a "along with McCaffrey")
That aside, really seriously, as the talking heads are saying tonight Clemson did absolutely nothing except help their brand tonight. I know that can't feel like enough for the team or staff or fans or our own CU Tiger, but it's a very real thing. They may all have collectively expected this, or more, from themselves. Most of the rest of the world just didn't. That may have changed for the future based on the effort & performance tonight. The respect I mentioned earlier is deserved & sincere.
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01-12-2016, 12:44 AM | #463 |
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If mccaffery doesn't win the heisman next year, he wasn't used correctly.
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01-12-2016, 12:59 AM | #464 |
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So proud of my Tigers. We lost to a very good team. I'm proud that they showed unequivocally they could stand toe to toe with Bama and hold their own in the trenches.
Fwiw I called the inside kick before the Bama XP was even kicked. I'll post some more thoughts tomorrow that I want to share. But for tonight I want to simmer. I can't ever recall losing a loss and feeling like this. We lost, we could have won. I might go as far as should have won. But I'm proud of the effort and I tip my hat to Bama great game by them. This one hurts but also offers promise. I was on the sideline in 08 in the GA dome, Clemson didn't belong on that field. Tonight was a barometer on where we are as a program, and I'd say we are right on track. |
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It was a great game.
I hate Alabama....but...SEC! SEC! SEC! Having said that, probably wont open up FB for a couple of days...there will be way too much Roll Tide bullshit there. |
01-12-2016, 07:52 AM | #466 |
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That game helped do a lot to make up for two blowouts on NYE.
Also, when Henry had that first long touchdown, I looked at my buddy and said "This could get ugly quickly." It didn't. Clemson marched right back, and it was on. Major props to Clemson for the fight. Alabama deserved the win. But so did Clemson. Both teams played a great game and should feel pride. |
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Lane Kiffen won this game for Alabama with some terrific play calling in the 4th quarter. I don't like the man, but I have to admit that I came away very impressed.
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Excellent game by both teams. Congrats to Clemson on a great year.
Reading through the game posts here tho, and was surprised about the bitching about the officiating. Outside of the mess-up at the end of the first half (yeah that sucked but we're talking like 3 seconds here), I thought it was a very well officiated game. Last edited by HomerSimpson98 : 01-12-2016 at 08:50 AM. |
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Compared to the CIN-PIT game, these officials were almost god-like.
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Well, a lot of what you read was bitching about bitching about officiating. |
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01-12-2016, 01:33 PM | #473 |
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FWIW I thought it was a fair officiated game. I thought there were a lot of "missed calls" for both sides. In other words a lot of letting them play.
There was tons of holding going on and none was called, well except 1 time against Bama on a play where Clemson still got the sack. There was also a lot of contact on pass plays both ways and none were called. You can't complain about that. The end of the half time thing was ATROCIOUS but I am a fan and probably ant look at it objectively. Clock stopped on a first down. Ref stood over ball and started clock. Clemson had not substituted. Clemson quickly called a time out to prevent time loss. 6 seconds were ran off the clock. |
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Big 12 can now have a conference championship game without having 12 schools.
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Good breakdown of Monday night's onside kick.
How Alabama exploited a tiny Clemson error into the Championship's deciding play - SBNation.com |
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Hate Alabama, but that is pretty awesome.
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01-20-2016, 11:15 AM | #478 |
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Anyone else think all this Harbaugh recruiting stuff is starting to get a little weird/creepy? I'm sure the Michigan fans love it and I don't really blame them.
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01-20-2016, 12:05 PM | #480 |
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Holy crap. Sleepovers?
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01-20-2016, 12:13 PM | #481 |
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That's the line we're going to start thinking it's creepy? You clearly haven't seen some of these personalized cards and letters that get sent to recruits... (Or how he got his wife to go on a first date!)
It basically reminds me of Calipari in college basketball in that everyone's doing it, but everyone gets mad at the guy who's the best at it. The guy doesn't take vacations, he doesn't get sick, he doesn't observe major holidays, he's a jackhammer. Don't be salty. (Especially you Urban Meyer!) |
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Yeah I think sleeping over at a kid's house is infinitely more creepy than the recruiting assistants sending out 100 letters to a kid or the department's Photoshop guy doing what he does best. |
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He does have a prior relationship with the kid and the kid's family, but I agree it is creepy anyway. |
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01-20-2016, 01:00 PM | #484 |
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Ehh, I don't even go deep into that world but I've heard stories of ND assistants showing up at recruits houses at 2am, coaches following kids around to each HS class and/or basically stalking them. The only difference I see is that Harbaugh has absolutely zero shame, legitimately doesn't understand why any of us would think him sleeping on a kid's floor would be creepy, and has a high enough profile that stories about him get some national play. Where's our resident expert CUTiger to give us his take? And hopefully some ridiculous stories
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01-20-2016, 04:35 PM | #485 |
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You rang?
Lol. First, Acording to my 15 year old his friends now have deemed him Homo Harbaugh. Apparently Netflix and chill is slang for something way different than what Harbaugh thinks it is Second, I'm there is a fine line between tenacious recruiting and breaking the rules and then a pretty distant line to going down right creepy. This is creepy. (BTW A sleepover is apparently a secondary violation. Seems the HC only gets 1 visit day and at 12:01 AM it became a 2 day visit...) I will say this, Clemson has a staff of right at 50 people that are full time recruiting personnel. These vary from content creators, to social media followers, to report generators...you name it. (Another FWIW and a lesson to your kids if appropriately aged. Before an official offer can be extended to a recruit from Clemson Coach Swiney requires a report be generated including every report from the last 30 months including ever social media post. Frequently these reports are 100+ pages long. A staffer summarizes them in a report and then Coach gets the summary and the content and reviews it to determine culture fit before extending any offers...) But that said....everyone is looking for an edge. It used to be hand written notes and the coach mentioning "Did you see I wrote that by hand? That is how much you mean to me. I didnt type it up and print 20 copies with different names I hand wrote that for you." [Another side bar. One of the first things Swinney did and the first that made me stop and say, "WOW", after getting the job he had every staffer submit a writing sample and hired a software company to design a font for each that looked hand written. Right at $100k was spent to replicate and speed up that personal touch. BTW every "hand written" note, you guessed it. Swinney reviews before they are sent.] These says that has evolved into....all kinds of silliness. Butch Jones got a police escort, from the TN state troopers, including 16 cars and a helicopter chase to a recruits house who's mother was a local city cop. Larry Fedora Landed UNC's helicopter on a recruits field one Friday night minutes before the game was supposed to start (they were at the 50 for the coin toss) and he walked over to the kid and apologized but said traffic in Raleigh was bad and he didnt have time to land at the Charlotte airport and make the game and since the kid was such a priority he couldnt miss his game. Both of those guys got their guy. Ive heard a lot of ish. But this is the first sleepover Ive ever heard of. Well there is the one SEC head coach who's wife was known to be an ACE recruiter for him when he was a position coach. Several recruits stayed at his house, but not the other way around. |
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I bet Swinney doesn't even read them.
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I seem to remember I read Harbaugh stayed outside the house until 12:01 so his sleepover didn't technically fall foul of the rules.
It's definitely weird, borderline creepy and I wonder how happy the kid is to now be known as the Harbaugh sleepover kid for the rest of his career. |
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While Harbaugh is sleeping with recruits and climbing trees, it seems to be lost in the shuffle that they just pulled their offer 2 weeks prior to signing day from an OL that had been committed since Nov 2013.
Better yet, Harbaugh cannot even be bothered to discuss with the recruit personally because he is too busy recruiting. |
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I think the Harbaugh thing is weird, but I find a lot about college recruiting to be weird and unseemly. It seems like an odd, jacked up world.
Homo Harbaugh? Classy.
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You would lose. The man is borderline psychotic on his control the message and attention to detail. I'm not defending it, the no social media for players during the season, the no interviewing of assistant coaches, he is fanatical about his image control. I guess the results speak for themselves but... I can assure you those reports are read. As well as the weekly report of every negative thing posted on the net (by media members not forum posters ) as well. B |
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Article is behind a pay wall for me. No doubt a scurrilous smear piece by a known Fighting Irish rag!
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Try googling it, then going to it from the Google link. Worked for me.
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Terry Beckner Jr. arrested for weed.
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It's basically what you'd expect given the deal with Swenson getting his offer pulled by Harbaugh, and Harbaugh not even willing to tell him personally (he had Drevno deliver the news and wouldn't take to Swenson about it).
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Looks like it's time to start really hating Michigan again.
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Ah... no. I'm still feelin' the love from you, Kodos!
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