College Football Week 14 (Conference Championship Week) discussion - Page 10

duckman · 12-05-2009, 10:58 PM

Fuck Texas.

Tebow. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Recoil · 12-05-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I hope the Fiesta Bowl doesn't match up TCU and Boise State.

No worries. I see TCU/GT in the Orange.

mauchow · 12-05-2009, 10:59 PM

Looking at everything.. I would say that Cincinnati, based on better wins should go ahead of Texas. Texas possibly hasn't beaten one team in the top 25. Nebraska will not be in the top 25 of anything after this game. Oklahoma St might be top 25, but we'll see how it shakes out.

Cinci beat, WVU, Pitt, Oregon St.

Boise St beat the #7 team in the BCS and that's about it. Fresno and Nevada are both okay teams but not better than the teams Texas beat.

TCU beat Clemson(too bad they didn't win tonight), Utah and BYU.

None of them are really more deserving than the other..

My ranking of who should play in the NC game...

1. Bama
2. I wouldn't want to be the formula to choose.

Atocep · 12-05-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

ESPN, CBS, CFN/Scout/FoxSports all have VT. I haven't even heard Clemson mentioned for the spot anywhere at all. Not saying you haven't, just saying that it hasn't even been whispered anywhere within my earshot.

The Va Tech people on Rivals seem unsure on where they're going. It was definitely the Peach with a Clemson win, but now they seem to think the Gator is a possibility.

Invites should start to leak out soon. I'd rather see WVU/Va Tech, but the potential of beating Bowden in his last game is appealing. Either way, it's either a great rivalry matchup or a great story game.

RainMaker · 12-05-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Wrong, AP voters have no say. Coaches Poll, Harris Poll, Computer Poll. No AP Poll.

Harris Poll is the same thing. It just mixes in some former players and coaches into the mix. In fact, I'd rather have the AP Poll as it's less bias.

Radii · 12-05-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Most likely scenario now is Clemson to the Peach and a WVU vs Va Tech Gator bowl. That's the game most WVU fans want to see.

hm has there been any more info on FSU going to the Gator Bowl for a giant Bowden sendoff?

Swaggs · 12-05-2009, 11:01 PM

Anyone care to take a stab at the BCS bowls?

Championship: Texas/Alabama
Rose: Oregon/Ohio State
Orange: Georgia Tech/TCU
Sugar: Florida/Cincinnati
Fiesta: Boise State/Penn State

JonInMiddleGA · 12-05-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

The Va Tech people on Rivals seem unsure on where they're going. It was definitely the Peach with a Clemson win, but now they seem to think the Gator is a possibility.

Invites should start to leak out soon. I'd rather see WVU/Va Tech, but the potential of beating Bowden in his last game is appealing. Either way, it's either a great rivalry matchup or a great story game.

Hey, it works for me, don't get me wrong.

I like Tennessee's chances against Clemson significantly better than their chances against Va Tech so it wouldn't hurt my feelings in the least if they get switched up.

And I'm not planning to go to the game either, even if the rest of the family does (and quite possibly will if UT does indeed get the bid). About the only reason I'd willingly endure a crowd of that size in a facility I loathe would be if Iron Maiden ever comes back to Atlanta.

Dr. Sak · 12-05-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Anyone care to take a stab at the BCS bowls?

Championship: Texas/Alabama
Rose: Oregon/Ohio State
Orange: Georgia Tech/TCU
Sugar: Florida/Cincinnati
Fiesta: Boise State/Penn State

The only thing I might change is Iowa for Penn State. But I could also see (and am hearing from some PSU people)...

Orange: GT/PSU
Fiesta: TCU/Boise

Swaggs · 12-05-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

The only thing I might change is Iowa for Penn State. But I could also see (and am hearing from some PSU people)...

Orange: GT/PSU
Fiesta: TCU/Boise

I almost put that -- I actually think TCU to Fiesta makes a lot of sense for travel purposes (of course, I say that having no idea where, exactly, in Texas TCU is

), but it seems like TCU-Boise State would have limited television appeal, although I'd certainly watch it.

mauchow · 12-05-2009, 11:06 PM

I would hate the BCS forever if Boise and TCU were matched up.

edit: more than i already do

Swaggs · 12-05-2009, 11:07 PM

I would like to see Iowa play Nebraska. Imagine those two defenses (and their pathetic offenses) against each other.

Young Drachma · 12-05-2009, 11:07 PM

Boise/TCU will be the likely scenario I bet, so they can make it the defacto Jr. National Championship and can absolve the big time teams of having to possible suffer a loss at either of their hands.

Galaxy · 12-05-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I almost put that -- I actually think TCU to Fiesta makes a lot of sense for travel purposes (of course, I say that having no idea where, exactly, in Texas TCU is

), but it seems like TCU-Boise State would have limited television appeal, although I'd certainly watch it.

TCU=Fort Worth

sterlingice · 12-05-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I hope the Fiesta Bowl doesn't match up TCU and Boise State.

Unfortunately, there isn't a lot of "proving ground" this year for Cincy, TCU, or Boise State in bowls.

Presumably, it will be Alabama and Texas in the title game. But then you only have one other top 8 team around to play against with Florida as 7 and 8 play each other in the Rose Bowl (Ohio State/Oregon).

One of those three teams will be playing Florida and they get to play this year's version of 2008 Utah. But the other two will either play each other or "less glamorous" teams in Iowa or Georgia Tech. So they won't even have a good chance to "prove" much.

SI

RainMaker · 12-05-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Looking at everything.. I would say that Cincinnati, based on better wins should go ahead of Texas. Texas possibly hasn't beaten one team in the top 25. Nebraska will not be in the top 25 of anything after this game. Oklahoma St might be top 25, but we'll see how it shakes out.

Cinci beat, WVU, Pitt, Oregon St.

Boise St beat the #7 team in the BCS and that's about it. Fresno and Nevada are both okay teams but not better than the teams Texas beat.

TCU beat Clemson(too bad they didn't win tonight), Utah and BYU.

None of them are really more deserving than the other..

My ranking of who should play in the NC game...

1. Bama
2. I wouldn't want to be the formula to choose.

Cincy also beat Oregon State and Pittsburgh on the road (the Pitt game having a lot on the line). I also think the Big East is good. They have two bottom feeders but the rest of the conference can compete with most big schools on any Saturday.

TCU beat Clemson and BYU on the road. I think one other factor for them is they literally crushed BYU and Utah who were both ranked. Games that were not even close.

Tough to say what team deserves it most. If only there was a way we could find out on the football field.

Matthean · 12-05-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Anyone care to take a stab at the BCS bowls?

Championship: Texas/Alabama
Rose: Oregon/Ohio State
Orange: Georgia Tech/TCU
Sugar: Florida/Cincinnati
Fiesta: Boise State/Penn State

Previously linked to possible bowl games from SI and ESPN have Iowa instead of PSU. I think there needs to be one more really good team in there to make some better match ups, but it's just not there this year. Orange looks kind of "meh" if TCU shows up.

Senator · 12-05-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

TCU=Fort Worth

About 10 minutes away. Come have a beer sometime.

sterlingice · 12-05-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I would like to see Iowa play Nebraska. Imagine those two defenses (and their pathetic offenses) against each other.

Can a BCS game end in a 0-0 tie, even after 13 overtimes?

SI

Dr. Sak · 12-05-2009, 11:11 PM

And I'll be the first to admit that Penn State does not deserve a BCS bid, but I'd love to go to the Fiesta Bowl. Then I would only have to go to the Sugar Bowl and I will have gone to all the BCS Bowl games.

Galaxy · 12-05-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator

About 10 minutes away. Come have a beer sometime.

It would be a 20-some hour drive for one.

Galaxy · 12-05-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Cincy also beat Oregon State and Pittsburgh on the road (the Pitt game having a lot on the line). I also think the Big East is good. They have two bottom feeders but the rest of the conference can compete with most big schools on any Saturday.

TCU beat Clemson and BYU on the road. I think one other factor for them is they literally crushed BYU and Utah who were both ranked. Games that were not even close.

Tough to say what team deserves it most. If only there was a way we could find out on the football field.

And BYU beat Oklahoma.

RainMaker · 12-05-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Boise/TCU will be the likely scenario I bet, so they can make it the defacto Jr. National Championship and can absolve the big time teams of having to possible suffer a loss at either of their hands.

I see it going down that way too. Probably some pressure from the bigger schools/conferences to not have them embarass their schools again.

Swaggs · 12-05-2009, 11:13 PM

I don't really have a problem with Texas getting the nod, even though I'd rather see Cincy. I do think that it is a shame that Cincy, coming off back-to-back 10+ wins seasons didn't begin the season ranked. That definitely hurt them, when you compare how highly ranked the other undefeated teams began the season.

Young Drachma · 12-05-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

I see it going down that way too. Probably some pressure from the bigger schools/conferences to not have them embarass their schools again.

Well it happened last year in the Poinsettia Bowl, so I'm guessing they'll do it to them again on the big stage for similar reasons. No one wants either of those teams for all of the usual reasons.

Lathum · 12-05-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Boise/TCU will be the likely scenario I bet, so they can make it the defacto Jr. National Championship and can absolve the big time teams of having to possible suffer a loss at either of their hands.

I doubt this, no way a BCS gae risks not selling out

Dr. Sak · 12-05-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I doubt this, no way a BCS gae risks not selling out

Do you remember last year's Orange Bowl when a lot of the upper deck was empty?

Matthean · 12-05-2009, 11:16 PM

Not gonna multi-quote everybody saying they were sick of Tebow, but I found this quote humorous.

Quote:

"He's a great player," Alabama receiver Julio Jones said, "but man, we're tired of him."

sterlingice · 12-05-2009, 11:18 PM

Boy, wouldn't it have been awful, if we had a bracket like this for the next 4 weeks (bye team in parens and assuming Florida drops to 5th- which is probably incorrect, but roll with it)?

Florida
Virginia Tech
(Cincinnati)

Boise St
Penn St
(TCU)

Oregon
Georgia Tech
(Texas)

Ohio St
Iowa
(Alabama)

SI

RainMaker · 12-05-2009, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I doubt this, no way a BCS gae risks not selling out

Will all of them sellout? As a casual observer, none of the games but the Championship and maybe the Rose really interest me. Doesn't seem like we have a lot of good matchups.

Young Drachma · 12-05-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Boy, wouldn't it have been awful, if we had a bracket like this for the next 4 weeks (bye team in parens and assuming Florida drops to 5th- which is probably incorrect, but roll with it)?

Florida
Virginia Tech
(Cincinnati)

Boise St
Penn St
(TCU)

Oregon
Georgia Tech
(Texas)

Ohio St
Iowa
(Alabama)

SI

Yes. Think of how watered down the regular season would've been. The only reason today's games were interesting is because of the BCS. Under the old system, it would've been worse! We HAD a playoff already!!

Lathum · 12-05-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Will all of them sellout? As a casual observer, none of the games but the Championship and maybe the Rose really interest me. Doesn't seem like we have a lot of good matchups.

my point is that that no bowl will select 2 teams that aren't from major conferences that may not travel well

Young Drachma · 12-05-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

my point is that that no bowl will select 2 teams that aren't from major conferences that may not travel well

They might get stuck with them, that was my point. Not that anyone would choose them voluntarily, but they'd get stuck with them in the end. Or one of the bowls will just take one for the team, knowing that the other bowls don't want those matchups with either of those programs.

bronconick · 12-05-2009, 11:26 PM

The Fiesta gets 2nd pick after the Sugar, which will take Florida. I don't see why the Fiesta bowl wouldn't invite Penn State or Iowa with their first pick, since that gives them a giant alumni base from cold weather climates to snatch up tickets.

Atocep · 12-05-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Will all of them sellout? As a casual observer, none of the games but the Championship and maybe the Rose really interest me. Doesn't seem like we have a lot of good matchups.

Bowl sellouts come from fans of the two teams playing and that comes down to how well the fans travel. How well fans travel is usually consistent from bowl to bowl and year to year.

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Championship: Texas/Alabama
Rose: Oregon/Ohio State
Orange: Georgia Tech/TCU
Sugar: Florida/Cincinnati
Fiesta: Boise State/Penn State

If those are the matchups the championship game is a guaranteed sellout. The Rose sells out. Not sure how GT or TCU fans travel. Florida/Cincy probably falls a little short of a sellout because I can't see Cincy fans selling their allotment. Penn State will sell out their allotment, but I really doubt Boise will.

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Orange: GT/PSU
Fiesta: TCU/Boise

Sub in these two as matchups and the Fiesta is probably the lowest rated BCS bowl to date and won't sellout.

mauchow · 12-05-2009, 11:34 PM

21 zip Badgers...

Lathum · 12-05-2009, 11:36 PM

The whole purpose people watch a TCU or a Boise in a BCS game is to see if they can upset one of the big boys. If they play each other there is really no incentive for the average Joe to watch, hell, I a a die hard and wouldn't be all thet interested in that match up relative to soe other potential match ups

Young Drachma · 12-05-2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

The whole purpose people watch a TCU or a Boise in a BCS game is to see if they can upset one of the big boys. If they play each other there is really no incentive for the average Joe to watch, hell, I a a die hard and wouldn't be all thet interested in that match up relative to soe other potential match ups

Silly man. The BCS could care less about that. We care about one thing and one thing only. And it ain't Cinderella and her cleats.

Lathum · 12-05-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Silly man. The BCS could care less about that. We care about one thing and one thing only. And it ain't Cinderella and her cleats.

yeah, they care about ratings, and a TCU/ Boise match up won't exactly please the advertisers paying top dollar during a recession.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-05-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

yeah, they care about ratings, and a TCU/ Boise match up won't exactly please the advertisers paying top dollar during a recession.

And that's exactly what the SC guys on ESPN just predicted as they went to the next batch of highlights. So what does that mean, that GT is stuck playing Iowa/Penn State in the Orange Bowl? (That's me assuming that Cincinnati goes to the Sugar)

Damn, that might rival TCU/Boise for shitty ratings.

Young Drachma · 12-05-2009, 11:52 PM

TCU vs. Boise State? Fiesta Bowl would be open to it - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com

Logan · 12-05-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Cincinnati will have 3 ranked wins, including 2 on the road. Texas will have 1 against a team that was without their best player. The Big East is a tougher conference in my opinion and their OOC was much tougher than Texas' creampuff one. Cincinnati has more big wins against better schools than Texas and I believe that is important.

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Originally Posted by Senator

Can we come back to why this was funny? The guy's a bit nuts (no offense RM), but he's right in this case.

Swaggs · 12-06-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Can we come back to why this was funny? The guy's a bit nuts (no offense RM), but he's right in this case.

Hearing any chatter on Rutgers to Charlotte?

Lathum · 12-06-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Hearing any chatter on Rutgers to Charlotte?

My buddy who works for the progra said they are likely headed there.

Swaggs · 12-06-2009, 12:04 AM

Good -- I'd love to see Rutgers play Miami w/ Schiano having several weeks to prepare. Hopefully they don't draw UNC, that'd be a tough defensive matchup.

RainMaker · 12-06-2009, 12:05 AM

You have to love a system where the postseason is determined by potential TV ratings and attendance. If only the NFL could find a way to get the reps from Tostitos involved in the selection of their playoff teams.

Atocep · 12-06-2009, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Hearing any chatter on Rutgers to Charlotte?

South Carolina's boards are reporting them vs Pitt in the Papa John's bowl so that would mean Rutgers to Charlotte.

Lathum · 12-06-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Good -- I'd love to see Rutgers play Miami w/ Schiano having several weeks to prepare. Hopefully they don't draw UNC, that'd be a tough defensive matchup.

My buddy seems to think it will be RU vs. Miami.

Bet that would have better ratings then TCU/Boise.

Swaggs · 12-06-2009, 12:07 AM

Sounds like Pitt might play South Carolina in Birmingham.

Not sure if that is a great matchup for Pitt.

Swaggs · 12-06-2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

South Carolina's boards are reporting them vs Pitt in the Papa John's bowl so that would mean Rutgers to Charlotte.

Doh... beat me to it.

You hearing any more on the Gator matchup? I saw someone say that VPI and Tennessee have already agreed to the Chicken Bowl, but who knows if that is true or not?

12-05-2009, 10:59 PM	#453
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Looking at everything.. I would say that Cincinnati, based on better wins should go ahead of Texas. Texas possibly hasn't beaten one team in the top 25. Nebraska will not be in the top 25 of anything after this game. Oklahoma St might be top 25, but we'll see how it shakes out. Cinci beat, WVU, Pitt, Oregon St. Boise St beat the #7 team in the BCS and that's about it. Fresno and Nevada are both okay teams but not better than the teams Texas beat. TCU beat Clemson(too bad they didn't win tonight), Utah and BYU. None of them are really more deserving than the other.. My ranking of who should play in the NC game... 1. Bama 2. I wouldn't want to be the formula to choose. Last edited by mauchow : 12-05-2009 at 11:02 PM.

12-05-2009, 11:01 PM	#457
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Anyone care to take a stab at the BCS bowls? Championship: Texas/Alabama Rose: Oregon/Ohio State Orange: Georgia Tech/TCU Sugar: Florida/Cincinnati Fiesta: Boise State/Penn State __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

12-05-2009, 11:06 PM	#461
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I would hate the BCS forever if Boise and TCU were matched up. edit: more than i already do Last edited by mauchow : 12-05-2009 at 11:07 PM.

12-05-2009, 11:07 PM	#462
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I would like to see Iowa play Nebraska. Imagine those two defenses (and their pathetic offenses) against each other. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

12-05-2009, 11:07 PM	#463
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Boise/TCU will be the likely scenario I bet, so they can make it the defacto Jr. National Championship and can absolve the big time teams of having to possible suffer a loss at either of their hands. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

12-05-2009, 11:11 PM	#470
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	And I'll be the first to admit that Penn State does not deserve a BCS bid, but I'd love to go to the Fiesta Bowl. Then I would only have to go to the Sugar Bowl and I will have gone to all the BCS Bowl games.

12-05-2009, 11:13 PM	#474
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I don't really have a problem with Texas getting the nod, even though I'd rather see Cincy. I do think that it is a shame that Cincy, coming off back-to-back 10+ wins seasons didn't begin the season ranked. That definitely hurt them, when you compare how highly ranked the other undefeated teams began the season. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

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sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Boy, wouldn't it have been awful, if we had a bracket like this for the next 4 weeks (bye team in parens and assuming Florida drops to 5th- which is probably incorrect, but roll with it)? Florida Virginia Tech (Cincinnati) Boise St Penn St (TCU) Oregon Georgia Tech (Texas) Ohio St Iowa (Alabama) SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

12-05-2009, 11:26 PM	#484
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	The Fiesta gets 2nd pick after the Sugar, which will take Florida. I don't see why the Fiesta bowl wouldn't invite Penn State or Iowa with their first pick, since that gives them a giant alumni base from cold weather climates to snatch up tickets. Last edited by bronconick : 12-05-2009 at 11:27 PM.

12-05-2009, 11:34 PM	#486
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	21 zip Badgers...

12-05-2009, 11:36 PM	#487
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	The whole purpose people watch a TCU or a Boise in a BCS game is to see if they can upset one of the big boys. If they play each other there is really no incentive for the average Joe to watch, hell, I a a die hard and wouldn't be all thet interested in that match up relative to soe other potential match ups

12-05-2009, 11:52 PM	#491
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	TCU vs. Boise State? Fiesta Bowl would be open to it - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com

12-06-2009, 12:04 AM	#495
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Good -- I'd love to see Rutgers play Miami w/ Schiano having several weeks to prepare. Hopefully they don't draw UNC, that'd be a tough defensive matchup. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

12-06-2009, 12:05 AM	#496
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	You have to love a system where the postseason is determined by potential TV ratings and attendance. If only the NFL could find a way to get the reps from Tostitos involved in the selection of their playoff teams.

12-06-2009, 12:07 AM	#499
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Sounds like Pitt might play South Carolina in Birmingham. Not sure if that is a great matchup for Pitt. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

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