2007 NBA Playoffs Thread - Page 10

stevew · 05-09-2007, 12:20 PM

Diaw's going to be very hard to trade this offseason due to his BYC status. 1/2 of his new salary is like 4 million, meaning that he would either have to go to a team comfortably under the cap, or be included in a pretty big trade(salary wise)

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 08:21 PM

That could have been disastrous for Dee Brown. He could of easily of had his neck broken when Okur landed on him.

miami_fan · 05-09-2007, 08:31 PM

Deron Williams- 2 fouls in the first minute of the game
Dee Brown- injured
Derrick Fisher- not with the team

The Jazz are doing well to still be in it

Karlifornia · 05-09-2007, 08:34 PM

Geez...these games are crazy. They have everything!

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Deron Williams- 2 fouls in the first minute of the game
Dee Brown- injured
Derrick Fisher- not with the team

The Jazz are doing well to still be in it

Cuz they keep killing the Dubs on the boards.

Karlifornia · 05-09-2007, 08:39 PM

Man..the Jazz are getting so many rebounds....this is bad.

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 08:47 PM

Too many offensive rebounds for Utah and too many fouls by Golden State...

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 09:08 PM

Only down 5 after being slaughtered on the boards. I'll take it.

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 09:42 PM

Unreal. They actually called a blocking foul on Williams. Maybe these officials will actually call Boozer for his push to the lower back of the defender on every single rebound he goes for.

Groundhog · 05-09-2007, 09:48 PM

I can't believe the Warriors are still in it while being outrebounded by 20+. I guess limiting turnovers, oh, and hitting 11-25 3s, helps!

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 09:49 PM

Memo to the W's: Pump fake on Kirelenko (sp?) please.

Neuqua · 05-09-2007, 09:49 PM

So wait, I turned it on just now. Why is everyone applauding Derek Fisher?

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

So wait, I turned it on just now. Why is everyone applauding Derek Fisher?

Just flew in to Salt Lake and arrived about 15 minutes ago.

Neuqua · 05-09-2007, 09:53 PM

How come? Has he been hurt?

(I admit, I have zero clue so excuse my ignorance)

Groundhog · 05-09-2007, 09:54 PM

He was sitting at home thinking "I'm SURE I was supposed to be doing something tonight..."

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 09:56 PM

What a quarter. Only down by 1. *claps*

Brian Swartz · 05-09-2007, 09:56 PM

A personal family issue is all the Jazz have said. He wasn't around for Game 1.

Karlifornia · 05-09-2007, 09:56 PM

Fisher's baby was diagnosed with a brain tumor..he was with his family.

Neuqua · 05-09-2007, 09:59 PM

Oh wow, thanks guys.

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 10:13 PM

Jackson drew a foul?!

Karlifornia · 05-09-2007, 10:14 PM

As an aside, Dick Stockton needs to retire. God help us all if he decides to go into air-traffic controlling.

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 10:21 PM

Jackson - YOU ARE NOT A POINT GUARD!!!!

Stop dribbling damnit

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 10:28 PM

Biedrins needs to finish that slam

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 10:29 PM

Yea Boozer. You do that shit every time. And where's the T for his protest? He did more than Baron did to earn his T.

Karlifornia · 05-09-2007, 10:30 PM

Holy cow what a game...still over a minute left...

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 10:31 PM

Thank you Barnes!

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 10:33 PM

Poor shot by Okur. Should of had Williams drive and draw a foul

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 10:34 PM

You kidding me! I can't take this.

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 10:36 PM

Hell of a shot by Okur. Couldn't have played better D than that.

Wait a minute...

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 10:39 PM

W's are killing themselves. If they hit their FT's, this game would be long over.

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 10:42 PM

Jazz will win in OT. Warriors blew this game. That is my prediction.

Karlifornia · 05-09-2007, 10:43 PM

Son of a.....

Karlifornia · 05-09-2007, 10:48 PM

What a terrible way to lose a game.....this is like game 5 @ dallas all over again. So close...

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

What a terrible way to lose a game.....this is like game 5 @ dallas all over again. So close...

20x worse because we KNEW we would beat Dallas. I can't say the same about Utah.

Neon_Chaos · 05-09-2007, 10:52 PM

Let's go Jazz!

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 10:54 PM

Oh wow. That was a walk.

kingfc22 · 05-09-2007, 10:57 PM

No Dick. The story of this game is the Warriors clanking free throw after free throw in the fourth quarter.

Neon_Chaos · 05-09-2007, 11:00 PM

This one's over. Up two-oh. Jazz will have to work hard to stop the Warriors from bouncing back at Cali in Games 3 and 4.

Neon_Chaos · 05-09-2007, 11:03 PM

Monster games for Boozer, Williams and Okur.

And AK-47 has just come back from the dead!

Neon_Chaos · 05-09-2007, 11:06 PM

My heart also goes out to Derek Fisher and his family. They're going through one of the worst days in their lives, and he still managed to suit up.

Karlifornia · 05-09-2007, 11:14 PM

God...two chances at wins on the road for the Warriors. Slipped through their fingers like sand. I think they can come out at home and get two wins. What happened in this game was the Warriors had nothing left in the tank in OT. When you're playing an up-tempo style with what is esentially a 6 man rotation, those five extra minutes are killers.

Utah earned both wins, though. I thought the Warriors had no hope in hell in the first half. It was just rebound after rebound after rebound for Utah. Kirilenko was the MVP of the game, unquestionably. He was just all over the court. Ah...I'll try to break it down a bit more tomorrow....a little too wound up for it right now.

miami_fan · 05-10-2007, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

God...two chances at wins on the road for the Warriors. Slipped through their fingers like sand. I think they can come out at home and get two wins. What happened in this game was the Warriors had nothing left in the tank in OT. When you're playing an up-tempo style with what is esentially a 6 man rotation, those five extra minutes are killers.

Utah earned both wins, though. I thought the Warriors had no hope in hell in the first half. It was just rebound after rebound after rebound for Utah. Kirilenko was the MVP of the game, unquestionably. He was just all over the court. Ah...I'll try to break it down a bit more tomorrow....a little too wound up for it right now.

What is going on between Don Nelson and Monta Ellis? They made mention of Nelson not be happy with his recent play but Ellis gave the team 16 plus a game this year. I remember reading during the Dallas series, Nelson saying he was among his best players. Doesn't he have to get more than 12 minutes total in the first two games?

Brian Swartz · 05-10-2007, 11:05 AM

Nelson wasn't happy with the way he was playing against Dallas either: that's when it started.

Arles · 05-10-2007, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

The Suns were really high on Noah last year and would have taken him then if they could have. This year it looks like they will probally pass on him in search of someone to replace Diaw whom will likely be traded in the offseason.

I think the Suns will keep Diaw. He came in out of shape and has had back issues pretty much all season. It has just been in the past couple of weeks where he's been fully healthy again. As he gets more with the second unit, I think he will be a very strong player and could be vital when Nash finally hangs it up.

If any major salary needs to be moved, I think we will see Marion go. Now, there was an article saying the Suns had the second highest profit this season in the NBA so they may only need to part with some smaller pieces. If that happens, I could see a combo of deals involving Banks (+ their own 1st) and James Jones to save them $7-8 million.

As an aside, it looks like Bruce Bowen is at it again. Check out this youtube video of him trying to leg sweep Amare after a dunk in the 4th quarter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4yz__akIU

bulletsponge · 05-10-2007, 01:57 PM

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If any major salary needs to be moved, I think we will see Marion go

wow really? ive always felt he was thier best player and easily the most underrated in the league. i hope they dump him and the Rockets find a way to pick him up

SnDvls · 05-10-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

I think the Suns will keep Diaw. He came in out of shape and has had back issues pretty much all season. It has just been in the past couple of weeks where he's been fully healthy again. As he gets more with the second unit, I think he will be a very strong player and could be vital when Nash finally hangs it up.

If any major salary needs to be moved, I think we will see Marion go. Now, there was an article saying the Suns had the second highest profit this season in the NBA so they may only need to part with some smaller pieces. If that happens, I could see a combo of deals involving Banks (+ their own 1st) and James Jones to save them $7-8 million.

As an aside, it looks like Bruce Bowen is at it again. Check out this youtube video of him trying to leg sweep Amare after a dunk in the 4th quarter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4yz__akIU

I think Marion makes too much for them to trade as well. The Suns were pretty pissed at Diaw this season 1) he came in so out of shape and is still way out of shape 2) he changed his game this year, partly due to Amare being back, but he looks to pass way to much. He has turned into a Phoenix Mercury player trying to pass or do a poor layup everytime he gets the ball. Go in with some authority man and slam it home once. The Suns have 3 1st rounders this year they aren't going to use them all. They blew it with Banks and J. Jones just hasn't stepped up so I could see them departing as well, but don't look for Marion to be gone unless he requests it ala Joe Johnson to the Hawks.

RE: the Bowen thing...it's looks bad in slow-mo, but I don't think it was intentional at all. Amare never even acknowledges it either and didn't at the game either. Looks like Bowen is trying to stop or jump to block the shot and then he realizes he has no shot in hell of blocking the shot so he stops ackwardly.

Karlifornia · 05-10-2007, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miami_fan

What is going on between Don Nelson and Monta Ellis? They made mention of Nelson not be happy with his recent play but Ellis gave the team 16 plus a game this year. I remember reading during the Dallas series, Nelson saying he was among his best players. Doesn't he have to get more than 12 minutes total in the first two games?

Ellis' confidence has taken a nosedive, and he hasn't really contributed anything. His shot has dissapeared. Nelson has a tight leash.

Arles · 05-10-2007, 06:54 PM

Amare thinks it was deliberate:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...ory?id=2866789

"He kicked me purposely in the back of my Achilles. I almost came down wrong and he almost caused an injury," Stoudemire said after Thursday's practice. "He's known for doing that. I just hope the NBA and the commissioner take a look at that because it's definitely a dirty play."

I think Bowen was certainly trying to kick Amare, the video shows him doing a "leg sweep" in slo mo at his achilles.

Fouts · 05-10-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

RE: the Bowen thing...it's looks bad in slow-mo, but I don't think it was intentional at all. Amare never even acknowledges it either and didn't at the game either. Looks like Bowen is trying to stop or jump to block the shot and then he realizes he has no shot in hell of blocking the shot so he stops ackwardly.

I agree with this. Hardly looks intentional to me. More like somebody is trying hard to make it into something.

Groundhog · 05-10-2007, 07:14 PM

I don't know how you can't think that was intentional. His leg sweeps right out. I'm hardly willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt either, given Bowen's history of doing things exactly like this.

05-09-2007, 08:21 PM	#452
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05-09-2007, 08:31 PM	#453
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05-09-2007, 08:34 PM	#454
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Geez...these games are crazy. They have everything! __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

05-09-2007, 08:39 PM	#456
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Man..the Jazz are getting so many rebounds....this is bad. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

05-09-2007, 08:47 PM	#457
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Too many offensive rebounds for Utah and too many fouls by Golden State... __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-09-2007, 12:20 PM	#451
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Diaw's going to be very hard to trade this offseason due to his BYC status. 1/2 of his new salary is like 4 million, meaning that he would either have to go to a team comfortably under the cap, or be included in a pretty big trade(salary wise)

05-09-2007, 09:08 PM	#458
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Only down 5 after being slaughtered on the boards. I'll take it. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-09-2007, 09:42 PM	#459
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Unreal. They actually called a blocking foul on Williams. Maybe these officials will actually call Boozer for his push to the lower back of the defender on every single rebound he goes for. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-09-2007, 09:48 PM	#460
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I can't believe the Warriors are still in it while being outrebounded by 20+. I guess limiting turnovers, oh, and hitting 11-25 3s, helps! __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

05-09-2007, 09:49 PM	#461
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Memo to the W's: Pump fake on Kirelenko (sp?) please. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-09-2007, 09:49 PM	#462
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	So wait, I turned it on just now. Why is everyone applauding Derek Fisher? __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

05-09-2007, 09:53 PM	#464
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	How come? Has he been hurt? (I admit, I have zero clue so excuse my ignorance) __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

05-09-2007, 09:54 PM	#465
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05-09-2007, 09:56 PM	#466
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	What a quarter. Only down by 1. claps __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-09-2007, 09:56 PM	#467
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	A personal family issue is all the Jazz have said. He wasn't around for Game 1.

05-09-2007, 09:56 PM	#468
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Fisher's baby was diagnosed with a brain tumor..he was with his family. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

05-09-2007, 09:59 PM	#469
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	Oh wow, thanks guys. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

05-09-2007, 10:13 PM	#470
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05-09-2007, 10:14 PM	#471
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05-09-2007, 10:21 PM	#472
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Jackson - YOU ARE NOT A POINT GUARD!!!! Stop dribbling damnit __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-09-2007, 10:28 PM	#473
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Biedrins needs to finish that slam __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-09-2007, 10:29 PM	#474
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Yea Boozer. You do that shit every time. And where's the T for his protest? He did more than Baron did to earn his T. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal Last edited by kingfc22 : 05-09-2007 at 10:30 PM.

05-09-2007, 10:30 PM	#475
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Holy cow what a game...still over a minute left... __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

05-09-2007, 10:31 PM	#476
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Thank you Barnes! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-09-2007, 10:33 PM	#477
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Poor shot by Okur. Should of had Williams drive and draw a foul __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-09-2007, 10:34 PM	#478
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	You kidding me! I can't take this. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-09-2007, 10:36 PM	#479
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Hell of a shot by Okur. Couldn't have played better D than that. Wait a minute... __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-09-2007, 10:39 PM	#480
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	W's are killing themselves. If they hit their FT's, this game would be long over. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-09-2007, 10:42 PM	#481
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Jazz will win in OT. Warriors blew this game. That is my prediction. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-09-2007, 10:43 PM	#482
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Son of a..... __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

05-09-2007, 10:48 PM	#483
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	What a terrible way to lose a game.....this is like game 5 @ dallas all over again. So close... __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

05-09-2007, 10:52 PM	#485
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05-09-2007, 10:54 PM	#486
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Oh wow. That was a walk. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-09-2007, 10:57 PM	#487
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	No Dick. The story of this game is the Warriors clanking free throw after free throw in the fourth quarter. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-09-2007, 11:00 PM	#488
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	This one's over. Up two-oh. Jazz will have to work hard to stop the Warriors from bouncing back at Cali in Games 3 and 4. __________________ Come and see.