E.A. to "re-enter" sport sim market?

PSUColonel · 12-20-2004, 09:50 PM

http://sports.ign.com/articles/572/572886p1.html

Chubby · 12-20-2004, 09:53 PM

Now I love Madden, NCAA, and NHL (tho not this year's) but there is no way EA can make a good sim on their own...

rjolley · 12-20-2004, 10:09 PM

Maybe EA gave Jim more control and he went back and there will be a new version of EA FOF...

Feel free to discuss.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 12-20-2004, 10:12 PM

It would work if done properly....which I doubt they will.

Chubby · 12-20-2004, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rjolley

Maybe EA gave Jim more control and he went back and there will be a new version of EA FOF...

Feel free to discuss.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Uh, no.

sabotai · 12-20-2004, 10:16 PM

They don't have to make it good, they just have to make it profitable. That's all they care about.

GoldenEagle · 12-20-2004, 10:19 PM

Jim has always said the more competition the better. Like sab said, the game will not be of high quality. It may may allow for a distributor to pick-up Jim's games.

Draft Dodger · 12-20-2004, 10:26 PM

EA Sports wasn't interested in having a sports sim back when they had a sports sim.

Neon_Chaos · 12-20-2004, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

Now I love Madden, NCAA, and NHL (tho not this year's) but there is no way EA can make a good sim on their own...

TOTAL CLUB MANAGER 2004 for the PC.

Chubby · 12-20-2004, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

TOTAL CLUB MANAGER 2004 for the PC.

I stand by my statement.

MizzouRah · 12-20-2004, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rjolley

Maybe EA gave Jim more control and he went back and there will be a new version of EA FOF...

Feel free to discuss.

If that happens, we're all in a world of shit.

Todd

Zippo · 12-20-2004, 10:38 PM

I think EA will be able to pull this off.

Neon_Chaos · 12-20-2004, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

I stand by my statement.

I found Total Club Manager to be quite refreshing and fun. I gues different strokes for different folks.

Blade6119 · 12-20-2004, 10:48 PM

I think the success of the franchise and dynasty modes has taught them a lesson. When they had jim, the managerial side wasnt big. Now, the franchise and stuff like that is the most popular part of ALL of their sports games...i think they realise how much money there is to be made here if done right, and thought it wont be a 10, I bet it will at least be a solid first effort.

Cringer · 12-20-2004, 10:51 PM

It's EA, the game will stop after 20 seasons....

Chubby · 12-20-2004, 10:54 PM

$10 says that this "sports sim" will be a mutated version of what FOF Online was supposed to be (along with, you got it, subscription fees)

Cringer · 12-20-2004, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

$10 says that this "sports sim" will be a mutated version of what FOF Online was supposed to be (along with, you got it, subscription fees)

Good call, bet that is atleast part of it.

PSUColonel · 12-21-2004, 12:09 AM

My first thought was.... it could be a managerial sim with graphics to be used for the new console systems to be released in a couple of years.

Tekneek · 12-21-2004, 12:19 AM

This EA manager game will be DOA, much like their other entries into that market.

Tekneek · 12-21-2004, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

I found Total Club Manager to be quite refreshing and fun. I gues different strokes for different folks.

I found it rather bloated, and annoying. It did not last long on any of my drives. I would rather play CM2 than TCM.

Franklinnoble · 12-21-2004, 12:28 AM

Unless it's "Front Office Kiss-My-Ass," I don't think Jim will be involved.

SunDancer · 12-21-2004, 01:17 AM

Just curious, could the new "agreement" between the NFL and EA big a reason behind this?

Franklinnoble · 12-21-2004, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SunDancer

Just curious, could the new "agreement" between the NFL and EA big a reason behind this?

It could be. It stands to reason that EA would want to maximize the return on that investment.

Franklinnoble · 12-21-2004, 01:41 AM

I wonder if EA can still use the code from FOF2k1?

stevew · 12-21-2004, 02:27 AM

It would be pretty cool if espn 2k6 was a game using the "playmakers" license as well. For 20 bucks i could use fictitious guys if it was fun.

Honolulu Blue · 12-21-2004, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

EA Sports wasn't interested in having a sports sim back when they had a sports sim.

Not quite true. My impression is they were interested throughout the days of FOF2, the shotgun wedding of Jim & Gigawatt Studios, and the announcement of FOF Online. They lost interest for at least two reasons:

1) For some reason EA had to deal with AOL, which was slow to get done, which caused them to release the game late, and
2) Because it was late, they couldn't release it on the Madden disks as intended.

The mind boggles at what could have been...

Sharpieman · 12-21-2004, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

It would be pretty cool if espn 2k6 was a game using the "playmakers" license as well. For 20 bucks i could use fictitious guys if it was fun.

that would be sweet...steroids, doing chicks at halftime...fun times, fun times.

BreizhManu · 12-21-2004, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

I found Total Club Manager to be quite refreshing and fun. I gues different strokes for different folks.

It is fun, but when you realize (after a week or so) that whatever you do you have absolutly no influence on what's happening on the field, you stop playing it.

Sharpieman · 12-21-2004, 02:59 AM

I like the fact that there is competition out there. But EA's sim games will not challenge Jim's games in quality.

Francis_Cole · 12-21-2004, 08:57 AM

There were loads of discussions about this when they aquired the NFL liscence.
Its been in production for a while now...

Eaglesfan27 · 12-21-2004, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

I wonder if EA can still use the code from FOF2k1?

I remmeber when I first read about this on gamespot a week or 2 ago, and I had that same question. Could they have used that a basis for designing a "new" football management game?

Icy · 12-21-2004, 10:40 AM

It will be a pretty game, with tons of options, amazing graphics....you gameplans will mean nothing for the 3D game view, your hotdog sales will affect more your team than your match results, when you fast sim your games, the best QB will be the one that didn't play that game, the WR's will run 200 yards while the Running back will catch 30 passes, the player injuried in that sack will be you offensive coordinator, the match mvp will be your team towel boy etc etc and at the end all us will be dissapointed...umm am i talking about TCM or the future NFL game?

Cringer · 12-21-2004, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Icy

your hotdog sales will affect more your team than your match results

I always thought Jim undervalued the hotdog sales.....but maybe thats just me. Besides, I am still pissed that Bratwurst was completely left off the stadium menu's.

Ben E Lou · 12-21-2004, 10:59 AM

Posts 5, 6, and 8 pretty much summed it up.

CraigSca · 12-21-2004, 11:34 AM

FWIW, I had heard somewhere that Joe Stallings is now working for EA - working on Madden, I believe. I wonder if he has any input in this?

Ben E Lou · 05-01-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca

FWIW, I had heard somewhere that Joe Stallings is now working for EA

Dang. Looks like this one slipped by us back then.

maximus · 05-01-2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

Dang. Looks like this one slipped by us back then.

I had thought I heard it somewhere before.

Barkeep49 · 05-01-2005, 02:22 PM

According to this page Joe (as of 1/3/05) is indeed at EA as "Technical Art Group Manager" so it seems as though he wouldn't really be able to influence going into a sport sim or not.

HomerJSimpson · 05-01-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

According to this page Joe (as of 1/3/05) is indeed at EA as "Technical Art Group Manager" so it seems as though he wouldn't really be able to influence going into a sport sim or not.

By his title, no. But Joe is a talker. There is no telling what exactly else he might be doing at EA. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't end up as president of the company (and the company fold in scandal shortly after).

Barkeep49 · 05-01-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerJSimpson

By his title, no. But Joe is a talker. There is no telling what exactly else he might be doing at EA. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't end up as president of the company (and the company fold in scandal shortly after).

I grant you that Joe is a talker but I would think that his influence in a company as large as EA would have to be some what limited.

Ben E Lou · 05-01-2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

According to this page Joe (as of 1/3/05) is indeed at EA as "Technical Art Group Manager" so it seems as though he wouldn't really be able to influence going into a sport sim or not.

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/showpost.php?p=765311&postcount=46

markprior22 · 05-01-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca

FWIW, I had heard somewhere that Joe Stallings is now working for EA - working on Madden, I believe. I wonder if he has any input in this?

God, I hope not!

HomerJSimpson · 05-01-2005, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I grant you that Joe is a talker but I would think that his influence in a company as large as EA would have to be some what limited.

I promise that was tongue-in-cheek.

Farrah Whitworth-Rahn · 05-02-2005, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

According to this page Joe (as of 1/3/05) is indeed at EA as "Technical Art Group Manager" so it seems as though he wouldn't really be able to influence going into a sport sim or not.

According to the information I have, he actually started with EA around August/September of 2004.

12-20-2004, 10:12 PM	#4
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	It would work if done properly....which I doubt they will. __________________ Toujour Pret

12-20-2004, 10:19 PM	#7
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Jim has always said the more competition the better. Like sab said, the game will not be of high quality. It may may allow for a distributor to pick-up Jim's games. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

12-20-2004, 10:26 PM	#8
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	EA Sports wasn't interested in having a sports sim back when they had a sports sim. __________________ Mile High Hockey

12-20-2004, 10:48 PM	#14
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	I think the success of the franchise and dynasty modes has taught them a lesson. When they had jim, the managerial side wasnt big. Now, the franchise and stuff like that is the most popular part of ALL of their sports games...i think they realise how much money there is to be made here if done right, and thought it wont be a 10, I bet it will at least be a solid first effort. __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

12-20-2004, 10:51 PM	#15
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	It's EA, the game will stop after 20 seasons.... __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

12-20-2004, 09:53 PM	#2
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Now I love Madden, NCAA, and NHL (tho not this year's) but there is no way EA can make a good sim on their own...

12-20-2004, 10:09 PM	#3
rjolley College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Roseville, CA	Maybe EA gave Jim more control and he went back and there will be a new version of EA FOF... Feel free to discuss.

12-20-2004, 10:16 PM	#6
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	They don't have to make it good, they just have to make it profitable. That's all they care about.

12-20-2004, 10:38 PM	#12
Zippo High School JV Join Date: Jan 2004	I think EA will be able to pull this off.

12-20-2004, 10:54 PM	#16
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	$10 says that this "sports sim" will be a mutated version of what FOF Online was supposed to be (along with, you got it, subscription fees)

12-21-2004, 12:09 AM	#18
PSUColonel Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wayne, PA	My first thought was.... it could be a managerial sim with graphics to be used for the new console systems to be released in a couple of years.

12-21-2004, 12:19 AM	#19
Tekneek Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA	This EA manager game will be DOA, much like their other entries into that market.

12-21-2004, 12:28 AM	#21
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Unless it's "Front Office Kiss-My-Ass," I don't think Jim will be involved.

12-21-2004, 01:17 AM	#22
SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	Just curious, could the new "agreement" between the NFL and EA big a reason behind this?

12-21-2004, 01:41 AM	#24
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	I wonder if EA can still use the code from FOF2k1?

12-21-2004, 02:27 AM	#25
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	It would be pretty cool if espn 2k6 was a game using the "playmakers" license as well. For 20 bucks i could use fictitious guys if it was fun.

12-21-2004, 02:59 AM	#29
Sharpieman Greatly Missed. (7/11/84-06/12/05) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Palo Alto, CA	I like the fact that there is competition out there. But EA's sim games will not challenge Jim's games in quality.

12-21-2004, 08:57 AM	#30
Francis_Cole SI Games Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: London, England	There were loads of discussions about this when they aquired the NFL liscence. Its been in production for a while now... __________________ "We are not the Chad Pennington Jets" - Chad Pennington

12-21-2004, 10:40 AM	#32
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	It will be a pretty game, with tons of options, amazing graphics....you gameplans will mean nothing for the 3D game view, your hotdog sales will affect more your team than your match results, when you fast sim your games, the best QB will be the one that didn't play that game, the WR's will run 200 yards while the Running back will catch 30 passes, the player injuried in that sack will be you offensive coordinator, the match mvp will be your team towel boy etc etc and at the end all us will be dissapointed...umm am i talking about TCM or the future NFL game? __________________

12-21-2004, 10:59 AM	#34
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Posts 5, 6, and 8 pretty much summed it up. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

12-21-2004, 11:34 AM	#35
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	FWIW, I had heard somewhere that Joe Stallings is now working for EA - working on Madden, I believe. I wonder if he has any input in this? __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

05-01-2005, 02:22 PM	#38
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	According to this page Joe (as of 1/3/05) is indeed at EA as "Technical Art Group Manager" so it seems as though he wouldn't really be able to influence going into a sport sim or not.

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