2005 Daytona 500

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 02-21-2005, 12:33 AM

Though I thought this years race was a kittle boring it did provide with one of the greatest finishes in a long time. The race was a little slow and I certainly didnt like the pack spread out

. It was still a great 4 hours spent. I thought that Dale had the win during the lwaining moments but was proven wrong. Still a great race overall though.

SunDancer · 02-21-2005, 12:41 AM

The only thing I hate about Daytona is that you can work so hard for the 195 laps, then go for top 5 to 20th something in the last five just because you get out of line or something.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 02-21-2005, 09:11 AM

Exactly, I think that the aero package needs to be dirtied up a bit. I hated the ''Follow the leader'' cookie cutter type race that has happened at daytona the lasrt few years.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-21-2005, 09:22 AM

Wimmer's crash was spectacular, if nerve-wracking. Very glad to hear that he's fine, amazing that the worst of that was having the wind knocked out of him.

Hard luck for Mikey yesterday, that car was a serious contender, but it looks like the shop tried to get a little too much out of the engine.

After watching this weekend, I'm more convinced than ever that "freezing the field" has got to go. The final lap caution is inevitable at tracks like Daytona, and determining winners by blinking yellow light just doesn't cut it IMO.

Anybody notice the less-than-enthusiastic response of Gordon when Johnson came to visit in Victory Lane? I don't think WonderBoy was all that happy with his sidekick.

And did they ever show the 24's pass of Junior? The camera was on the wreck in the back of the pack when it happened, the new leader seemed to catch the whole booth off-guard, and the replays that followed were of the 8's pass of Stewart. I still haven't seen how Jeffie got by Jr.

For his own sake, I'm glad Tony didn't respond to Chad Knauss. For my sake though, I wish they'd take the handcuffs off Stewart & let him deal with the whiney asses like Knauss, Johnson, etc. Them, the Buschs, etc., have probably done as much damage to my enthusiasm for NASCAR as the collective rule changes, etc.

Dutch · 02-21-2005, 09:54 AM

I watch NASCAR because I'm a sucker for monopolies...but, the only thing I like about the NASCAR racing style at the super speedways is the hope for the big wreck. Otherwise, I hate the Nascar strategy of Yellow Flag every 20 minutes or so to keep it "close" and absolutely no racing really happening until the last 5 laps.

I fell asleep about 40 laps in and woke up near the end. I saw the big wreck and the finish. What did I miss? Nothing.

SunDancer · 02-21-2005, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CHEMICAL SOLDIER

Exactly, I think that the aero package needs to be dirtied up a bit. I hated the ''Follow the leader'' cookie cutter type race that has happened at daytona the lasrt few years.

For a race that is "dubbed" as NASCAR's SuperBowl, I would think it should be the most demanding, and the best cars should win with smart racing and great teamwork. I just don't get this from the Daytona 500.

RPI-Fan · 02-21-2005, 03:23 PM

My favorite part was the left turns.

Chubby · 02-21-2005, 03:27 PM

Gordon won so "everyone" (meaning the majority) is pissed.

SunDancer · 02-21-2005, 03:30 PM

Why is Gordon dislike so much? He's better then guys like Tony Stewart, Kurt Busch, ect.

Chubby · 02-21-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDancer

Why is Gordon dislike so much? He's better then guys like Tony Stewart, Kurt Busch, ect.

Well I don't really follow Nascar but I think it's cause he's a prettyboy and not a "true" racer in the Dale Sr vein.

RPI-Fan · 02-21-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

Well I don't really follow Nascar but I think it's cause he's a prettyboy and not a "true" racer in the redneck vein.

Fixed that for you.

SunDancer · 02-21-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

Well I don't really follow Nascar but I think it's cause he's a prettyboy and not a "true" racer in the Dale Sr vein.

I watch NASCAR closely, but never understand the hate for Gordon.

Chubby · 02-21-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Fixed that for you.

Well, I wasn't going to SAY it

wbatl1 · 02-21-2005, 05:33 PM

We Gordon was a little bit of a pretty boy when he came to the Winston series. That and driving a rainbow colored car. But compared to a lot of the young wusses up there today, he's middle of the road.

Cringer · 02-21-2005, 05:52 PM

I just saw that this was yesterday....oh well, maybe I'll see it next year.

Draft Dodger · 02-21-2005, 05:57 PM

so, no one wants to talk about Hootie in that silly BK commercial?

cmp · 02-21-2005, 06:22 PM

I'm happy Gordon won, actually I would have been happy with anyone but Junior winning. All these fans of his have made me dislike him quite a bit. Most all Junior fans, unless they were previously fans of his father, know not a thing about racing at all.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-21-2005, 07:05 PM

Here's a decent write-up on the whole Gordon-hating/Junior-loving thing, allegedly by Benny Parsons (I say "allegedly" because this just doesn't sound like BP, I smell a ghostwriter)
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5189547/

This quote, IMO, sums it up pretty well
"A simple example would be if Gordon were sponsored by a spirits manufacturer, it would be a champagne or wine company, where with Junior, it would be a beer company that would be putting its marketing dollars behind him.

02-21-2005, 09:11 AM	#3
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Exactly, I think that the aero package needs to be dirtied up a bit. I hated the ''Follow the leader'' cookie cutter type race that has happened at daytona the lasrt few years. __________________ Toujour Pret

02-21-2005, 09:22 AM	#4
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Wimmer's crash was spectacular, if nerve-wracking. Very glad to hear that he's fine, amazing that the worst of that was having the wind knocked out of him. Hard luck for Mikey yesterday, that car was a serious contender, but it looks like the shop tried to get a little too much out of the engine. After watching this weekend, I'm more convinced than ever that "freezing the field" has got to go. The final lap caution is inevitable at tracks like Daytona, and determining winners by blinking yellow light just doesn't cut it IMO. Anybody notice the less-than-enthusiastic response of Gordon when Johnson came to visit in Victory Lane? I don't think WonderBoy was all that happy with his sidekick. And did they ever show the 24's pass of Junior? The camera was on the wreck in the back of the pack when it happened, the new leader seemed to catch the whole booth off-guard, and the replays that followed were of the 8's pass of Stewart. I still haven't seen how Jeffie got by Jr. For his own sake, I'm glad Tony didn't respond to Chad Knauss. For my sake though, I wish they'd take the handcuffs off Stewart & let him deal with the whiney asses like Knauss, Johnson, etc. Them, the Buschs, etc., have probably done as much damage to my enthusiasm for NASCAR as the collective rule changes, etc. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

02-21-2005, 03:23 PM	#7
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	My favorite part was the left turns. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

02-21-2005, 05:33 PM	#14
wbatl1 High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2003	We Gordon was a little bit of a pretty boy when he came to the Winston series. That and driving a rainbow colored car. But compared to a lot of the young wusses up there today, he's middle of the road. __________________ wbatl1

02-21-2005, 05:52 PM	#15
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	I just saw that this was yesterday....oh well, maybe I'll see it next year. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

02-21-2005, 12:41 AM	#2
SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	The only thing I hate about Daytona is that you can work so hard for the 195 laps, then go for top 5 to 20th something in the last five just because you get out of line or something.

02-21-2005, 09:54 AM	#5
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	I watch NASCAR because I'm a sucker for monopolies...but, the only thing I like about the NASCAR racing style at the super speedways is the hope for the big wreck. Otherwise, I hate the Nascar strategy of Yellow Flag every 20 minutes or so to keep it "close" and absolutely no racing really happening until the last 5 laps. I fell asleep about 40 laps in and woke up near the end. I saw the big wreck and the finish. What did I miss? Nothing.

02-21-2005, 03:27 PM	#8
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Gordon won so "everyone" (meaning the majority) is pissed.

02-21-2005, 03:30 PM	#9
SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	Why is Gordon dislike so much? He's better then guys like Tony Stewart, Kurt Busch, ect.

02-21-2005, 05:57 PM	#16
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	so, no one wants to talk about Hootie in that silly BK commercial? __________________ Mile High Hockey

02-21-2005, 06:22 PM	#17
cmp Pro Rookie Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	I'm happy Gordon won, actually I would have been happy with anyone but Junior winning. All these fans of his have made me dislike him quite a bit. Most all Junior fans, unless they were previously fans of his father, know not a thing about racing at all. Last edited by cmp : 02-21-2005 at 06:22 PM.

02-21-2005, 07:05 PM	#18
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Here's a decent write-up on the whole Gordon-hating/Junior-loving thing, allegedly by Benny Parsons (I say "allegedly" because this just doesn't sound like BP, I smell a ghostwriter) http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5189547/ This quote, IMO, sums it up pretty well "A simple example would be if Gordon were sponsored by a spirits manufacturer, it would be a champagne or wine company, where with Junior, it would be a beer company that would be putting its marketing dollars behind him. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

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