Are you Glad Martin Beat out Alexander for Rushing Title?

Abe Sargent · 01-10-2005, 01:31 PM

I think Alexander is a bit of a prick. However, I love Curtis Martin and his old school style of play and attitude. Hence, I love that Martin won the rushing title, and not Alexander.

-Anxiety

Kodos · 01-10-2005, 01:39 PM

Agreed. Alexander is a whiny bastard. Martin is classy.

mgadfly · 01-10-2005, 01:39 PM

I think Martin is a bit of prick. However, I love Alexander and his old school style of play and attitude. Hence, I am disappointed that Martin won the rushing title, and Alexander did not.

Joe · 01-10-2005, 01:41 PM

alexander is an asshole. he should moon the nfl alongside moss.

rkmsuf · 01-10-2005, 01:41 PM

Martin was a remarkable grinder this year. Amazing to get that many yards with no big plays really. Just 4 or 5 every time.

mgadfly · 01-10-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by George W Bush

alexander is an asshole. he should moon the nfl alongside moss.

What has he done to be an asshole? He didn't moon anybody or fake wipe or run over a cop with his car, or shoot/stab anybody.

In fact, his career, much like Martin's, has been full of examples of him taking the extra step in his community, of praising the players around him, of being articulate, respectful, intelligent and well spoken.

He made one poor comment at a moment he was very disappointed. The people still harping on this are the whiny assholes. Get over it, you should have better things to do with your time than worry about who is the nicer guy, Martin or Alexander.

Joe · 01-10-2005, 01:57 PM

I would like to point out that Moss didn't run over anybody in his car. It came out in court that the traffic cop jumped on the hood of his car.

chinaski · 01-10-2005, 01:59 PM

one little story about Alexander and all of a sudden he's a prick? He more than apologized already, wtf? You guys know hes a hardcore christian who spends more time volunteering in the community than any other seahawk right?

chinaski · 01-10-2005, 02:00 PM

forgot to mention im glad my favorite Martin won it :P

Abe Sargent · 01-10-2005, 02:05 PM

He didn't apologize to his coach or teammates. Said he didn't need to. I thought that was a little off, myself.

-Anxiety

Raiders Army · 01-10-2005, 02:10 PM

I'm glad that Martin got it. Personally, I'd rather have LaDanian Tomlinson win it though. That dude reminds me a little bit of Barry Sanders (not in his running, but in his off-the-field style).

ISiddiqui · 01-10-2005, 02:21 PM

Personally, I'm happy Martin won it, mostly because I've always liked the Jets.

Kodos · 01-10-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chinaski

You guys know hes a hardcore christian who spends more time volunteering in the community than any other seahawk right?

Does being a hardcore Christian really make a difference in whether you are a selfish jerk or not? I'm sure there are plenty of assholes out there who are also Christian.

Sorry. It just annoys me any time someone tries to equate being religious with being a good person.

Cap Ologist · 01-10-2005, 02:27 PM

I was kind of hoping Troy Hambrick would win it myself.

Crapshoot · 01-10-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Does being a hardcore Christian really make a difference in whether you are a selfish jerk or not? I'm sure there are plenty of assholes out there who are also Christian.

Sorry. It just annoys me any time someone tries to equate being religious with being a good person.

I'll second this- I dont see any correlation at all between the 2. And I say this as someone who thinks Alexander's incident was overblown.

rkmsuf · 01-10-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cap Ologist

I was kind of hoping Troy Hambrick would win it myself.

He was right there until after Week 1.

chinaski · 01-10-2005, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Does being a hardcore Christian really make a difference in whether you are a selfish jerk or not? I'm sure there are plenty of assholes out there who are also Christian.

Sorry. It just annoys me any time someone tries to equate being religious with being a good person.

Oh damn no, I just was pissed at what GW. Bush said, so figured the Christain comment was applicable. I in no way give anyone who says theyre a religious person the benefit of the doubt. I just know what a good guy Alexander really is off the field and dont like people talking trash about him when hes probably one of the most charitable guys in the NFL.

Joe · 01-10-2005, 02:40 PM

sorry, I'm still bitter about his 5 TD half against the Vikings a few years back.

mgadfly · 01-10-2005, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Does being a hardcore Christian really make a difference in whether you are a selfish jerk or not? I'm sure there are plenty of assholes out there who are also Christian.

Sorry. It just annoys me any time someone tries to equate being religious with being a good person.

I'll disagree here. I think it does mean something. Not anything more than being hardcore humanitarian or hardcore [fill in the blank with charitable/religious/any type of giving organization... But it does mean something.

I think Christian in context with the sentence refers to his motivation and execution of charitable giving. Being hardcore about it speaks to his committment.

I think the problem is that people read it and think their is an implied meaning that the "Christian" part is better than someother well-meaning belief system. Sometimes I'm sure that is the intent of the speaker, but just because that might be part of the message (and is false) doesn't mean that being hardcore Christian isn't evidence of some sort of a persons make-up.

Kodos · 01-10-2005, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by George W Bush

sorry, I'm still bitter about his 5 TD half against the Vikings a few years back.

He was on my fantasy team back then, so it's a fond memory for me.

If he's very charitable, that would certainly hurt the argument that he's a selfish jerk. The Christian thing is just a pet peeve of mine. "Oh sure, he beats his wife and children every day, but he never misses a Sunday at church, so he must be a good guy." (Nothing like exaggerating to get a point across.)

Crapshoot · 01-10-2005, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mgadfly

I'll disagree here. I think it does mean something. Not anything more than being hardcore humanitarian or hardcore [fill in the blank with charitable/religious/any type of giving organization... But it does mean something.

I think Christian in context with the sentence refers to his motivation and execution of charitable giving. Being hardcore about it speaks to his committment.

I think the problem is that people read it and think their is an implied meaning that the "Christian" part is better than someother well-meaning belief system. Sometimes I'm sure that is the intent of the speaker, but just because that might be part of the message (and is false) doesn't mean that being hardcore Christian isn't evidence of some sort of a persons make-up.

And I would argue that hardcore could speak to a lot other things. Look, simply put I think religion doesnt make the man good or bad. I understand the implication, but am somewhat bothered by it, that's all.

General Mike · 01-10-2005, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Martin is classy.

Word. The most underrated player of all time. And I'm not even a Jets fan.

Samdari · 01-10-2005, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mgadfly

I think Martin is a bit of prick.

Seriously, what has he ever done or said to give you this impression?

Eaglesfan27 · 01-10-2005, 03:18 PM

I haven't seen anything to ever think Martin is a prick. He has ALWAYS seemed like a classy stand-up guy. Alexander has generally appeared to be decent as well, and these stupid comments are the first bad thing that I can think of him doing publicly. That being said, those comments make me think that he is a me-first type of guy, and therefore I'm glad to see Martin win the rushing title.

Maple Leafs · 01-10-2005, 03:24 PM

I like Martin and was happy to see him win. But I have no problem with Alexander, and it wouldn't have bothered me to see him take the title either.

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Originally Posted by Kodos

He was on my fantasy team back then, so it's a fond memory for me.

I was the only person in the world who had Alexander on his fantasy team and still lost that week.

SunDancer · 01-10-2005, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

And I would argue that hardcore could speak to a lot other things. Look, simply put I think religion doesnt make the man good or bad. I understand the implication, but am somewhat bothered by it, that's all.

I agree. Religion doesn't make a person good or bad. Look at the Catholic priest scandal. They are the representation of the church, but they aren't acting better then everyone else. You don't have to be a Christian, Jewish, Hindu or whatever your beliefs maybe, to be a generous person, or an assest to society.

SunDancer · 01-10-2005, 05:01 PM

Anways, back to the topic:

I think Alexander and Martin are two good backs. Alexander made some dumb comments, but don't we all? Was their anything at stake for Alexander, such as contract incentives, a contract year, or whatever?

Pumpy Tudors · 01-10-2005, 11:24 PM

I don't really care how classy athletes are, so no, I'm not particularly glad that Curtis Martin won. It doesn't bother me. I just don't really give a damn.

01-10-2005, 01:41 PM	#5
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Martin was a remarkable grinder this year. Amazing to get that many yards with no big plays really. Just 4 or 5 every time. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

01-10-2005, 01:59 PM	#8
chinaski College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon	one little story about Alexander and all of a sudden he's a prick? He more than apologized already, wtf? You guys know hes a hardcore christian who spends more time volunteering in the community than any other seahawk right? __________________ CCFL - Buffalo Bills IHOF - Houston Mustangs GML - San Diego

01-10-2005, 02:00 PM	#9
chinaski College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon	forgot to mention im glad my favorite Martin won it :P __________________ CCFL - Buffalo Bills IHOF - Houston Mustangs GML - San Diego

01-10-2005, 02:05 PM	#10
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	He didn't apologize to his coach or teammates. Said he didn't need to. I thought that was a little off, myself. -Anxiety __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

01-10-2005, 02:21 PM	#12
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Personally, I'm happy Martin won it, mostly because I've always liked the Jets. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-10-2005, 01:39 PM	#2
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Agreed. Alexander is a whiny bastard. Martin is classy.

01-10-2005, 01:39 PM	#3
mgadfly High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2003	I think Martin is a bit of prick. However, I love Alexander and his old school style of play and attitude. Hence, I am disappointed that Martin won the rushing title, and Alexander did not.

01-10-2005, 01:41 PM	#4
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	alexander is an asshole. he should moon the nfl alongside moss.

01-10-2005, 01:57 PM	#7
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	I would like to point out that Moss didn't run over anybody in his car. It came out in court that the traffic cop jumped on the hood of his car.

01-10-2005, 02:10 PM	#11
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I'm glad that Martin got it. Personally, I'd rather have LaDanian Tomlinson win it though. That dude reminds me a little bit of Barry Sanders (not in his running, but in his off-the-field style).

01-10-2005, 02:27 PM	#14
Cap Ologist College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Flower Mound, TX	I was kind of hoping Troy Hambrick would win it myself.

01-10-2005, 02:40 PM	#18
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	sorry, I'm still bitter about his 5 TD half against the Vikings a few years back.

01-10-2005, 03:18 PM	#24
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I haven't seen anything to ever think Martin is a prick. He has ALWAYS seemed like a classy stand-up guy. Alexander has generally appeared to be decent as well, and these stupid comments are the first bad thing that I can think of him doing publicly. That being said, those comments make me think that he is a me-first type of guy, and therefore I'm glad to see Martin win the rushing title. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

01-10-2005, 05:01 PM	#27
SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	Anways, back to the topic: I think Alexander and Martin are two good backs. Alexander made some dumb comments, but don't we all? Was their anything at stake for Alexander, such as contract incentives, a contract year, or whatever?

01-10-2005, 11:24 PM	#28
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I don't really care how classy athletes are, so no, I'm not particularly glad that Curtis Martin won. It doesn't bother me. I just don't really give a damn. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

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