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This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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Maybe he'll be a better head coach than defensive coordinator. I wasn't all that impressed with him.
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01-14-2004, 05:52 PM
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Got a link for ESPN.com now.
I think its a good hire. He did a good job in Tampa as the DC, and made a record setting (in the bad way) defense in St. Louis very respectable. He also says he plans on running a version of the Rams offense that focuses more on the run. Something that should make Bears fans smile. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1708770
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01-14-2004, 06:12 PM
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But Grimm looked like Ditka.
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01-14-2004, 06:14 PM
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It doesn't matter. Without a QB da-Bears are...
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01-14-2004, 06:15 PM
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Hiring Grimm would have been amusing. We fired Jauron and replaced him with Jauron-lite
 .Lovie is a decent hire. Let's see if he can be a head coach... though a QB is definetly needed. Maybe they can snag Brunell? |
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01-14-2004, 06:17 PM
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Brunell says he's playing for either Dallas or Miami.
As a Bears fan, I just want them to hand it over to Grossman and let him play the position. It would be great to see how he does thowing to guys running routes that are longer than 5 yards.
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01-14-2004, 06:17 PM
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He's from UF, of course he'll flop
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01-14-2004, 06:33 PM
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How would Russ Grimm be Juaron-lite?
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01-14-2004, 06:53 PM
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I just don't see Grimm being much more different a coach than Jauron.
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01-14-2004, 07:11 PM
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I don't see Grimm going from OL coach to HC. I'm surprised he was even mentioned. Although, he does now have a good chance at being moved to OC with the Steelers
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01-14-2004, 07:22 PM
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01-14-2004, 07:25 PM
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Oops, my fault.  Didn't do a bad job there either though.
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01-14-2004, 07:28 PM
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I teach at a middle school that has a lot of Rams, Cardinal, and other Saint Louis "celebrities" kids and I have to say that Lovie was one of the nicest and most interested parents I have ever met. I don't know if it is the money or just the power but some of these guys (and their wives) walk into our school like they own the place. But his attitude was always that we knew what we are doing and he was very involved but supportive. What is the whole point of any of this? Well I don't get to meet a lot of nationally known names, and I feel that something like this couldn't happen to a better person. I wish him the best and maybe one day maybe he will come back and take Martz's job!
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01-14-2004, 07:35 PM
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I echo these thoughts. I'm glad he's gone, no offense to what he has done for the community, but he wasn't very consistant with the defense and cost us the Detroit game as well as made the Panthers look like an offensive juggernat. Todd |
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01-14-2004, 07:40 PM
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St. Louis's defense was deceptively good this past year. Footballoutsiders.com power rankings has them ranked second overall. They compare every play of a team to the NFL average for plays that happened under the same circumstances and then basically give a weighted average for how much better or worse that team was over the NFL average over the course of all their plays in the season. St Louis came out to be 21.3% better than average (2nd to BAL at 32.7%).
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01-14-2004, 09:33 PM
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Well, he better not with Hardy Nickerson and Derrick Brooks to coach at the time!!! Seriously, a big portion of coaching is getting good experience and training under good bosses and I think he has had the right kind of exposure with Tony Dungy (defense) and Dick Vermeil and the current homeslice (homeslice's name escapes me) in St. Louis (offense). He could very well be the most well rounded rookie coach to come along in some time...but...it is the Bears afterall, so I am guessing we shouldn't expect too much barring a freak 15-1 season which is standard everytime the planets are aligned. Last edited by Dutch : 01-14-2004 at 09:34 PM. |
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01-14-2004, 09:44 PM
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01-14-2004, 09:47 PM
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Nice stat Daimyo. I guess the Panther game is still haunting me.
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01-15-2004, 12:01 AM
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Maybe Dick Jauron
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01-15-2004, 07:33 AM
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01-15-2004, 07:46 AM
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I agree that Grimm-as-finalist was a head-scratcher. I just didn't see any apt comparisons between him and Jauron since (I think) Jauron is a defensive guy and Grimm is an offensive guy descended from Coryell-Zampese-Gibbs-Turner and finished by Mike Mularkey.
Grimm will get the OC job in PIT or WAS and will become a fantastic head coach in a few seasons. I'm glad he didn't get the job - Angelo seems like a pretty sorry GM...
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01-15-2004, 08:06 AM
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This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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FYI, I read this earlier today:
The Chiefs may be losing quarterbacks coach Terry Shea to the Chicago Bears, where he would become offensive coordinator for new head coach Lovie Smith. Tight ends coach Keith Rowan told Vermeil he would stay with the Chiefs rather than become offensive-line coach for the Arizona Cardinals. Rowan had previously worked with new Arizona head coach Dennis Green. — Ivan Carter/The Star (KC)
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01-15-2004, 08:43 AM
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I agree with this, both that he'll be a fantastic HC some day and that I am glad he did not get the job. I think he needs more coordinator experience, and a better situation could not hurt either.
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01-15-2004, 08:52 AM
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Same ol Bears.
They go cheap each year with QB's and now they go cheap on a coach. No wonder why they lose all the time. Like that old saying, 'you get what you pay for'. Stinkin Bears!
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01-15-2004, 10:31 AM
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This of course raises another vacancy, that of Defensive Coordinator in St. Louis. It comes at a pretty critical time for the Rams D. They've got several irons in the fire, and a crucial draft class pending.
Of note: (1) Age & contract issues. Is Grant Wistrom worth a big new contract, and/or will he stay for a reasonable amount? He is a pretty steady RDE, not fantastic but can be a force. Great team personality and community guy. Aeneas Williams is another year older. Jason Sehorn was a disaster and will not be back. (2) The Young DTs. So much money and high draft picks invested...someone needs to step up. (3) The LBs. Tommy Polley and Robert Thomas are good but injury prone. Pisa Tioisamoa is a good young talent. Duncan is a mess. (4) The DBs. Too little talent & depth.
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01-15-2004, 03:24 PM
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After listening to the press conference earlier today, I think its been made official that Angelo is a douchebag.
Lovie said the right things, but coaches always seem to say the right things at first. Although he said his number one priority was to beat Green Bay. He then listed making the playoffs and Super Bowl priorities #2 and #3. Um, I think he may need to re-think that. Three seasons ago we were 13-3 and lost twice to the Pack, no complaining there.
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01-15-2004, 09:11 PM
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My family had seson tickets for my entire childhood. Wanstedt-Jauron-Smith can't hold a candle to Gibron-Pardee-Armstrong. The Ditka/Finks era was a fluke people. The Bears will never be legitimate until the McCaskey family sells the team.
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Rutgers ex-coaches are making the rounds. Have fun with Shea!
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01-15-2004, 11:35 PM
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01-16-2004, 07:51 AM
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(1) Age & contract issues. Is Grant Wistrom worth a big new contract, and/or will he stay for a reasonable amount? He is a pretty steady RDE, not fantastic but can be a force. Great team personality and community guy. Aeneas Williams is another year older. Jason Sehorn was a disaster and will not be back.
I would let Wistrom go, he's going to want big time $$$ and I would think a better/cheaper pass rusher would be out there in FA. Remember, with Pace getting franchised, and Bulger needing a contract, we need all the cash we can spare. Aeneas should be fine at safety and I think the Rams have a youngster to take Sehorns place. (2) The Young DTs. So much money and high draft picks invested...someone needs to step up. Two words, Jimmy Kennedy. He needs to put up or shut up. (3) The LBs. Tommy Polley and Robert Thomas are good but injury prone. Pisa Tioisamoa is a good young talent. Duncan is a mess. Duncan needs to go, but I think he has a long term contract. I would like to see a draft pick LB somewhere next year. Why did we pass up Boss Bailey? (4) The DBs. Too little talent & depth. I was impressed by our CB's this year. I think our LB's were most of the problems, not to mention the DT's. I could see a CB draft pick as well, although a good FA CB would be nice. Todd |
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01-16-2004, 12:49 PM
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I believe Ted Cottrell was an assistant coach at Rutgers. Not sure how long ago tho, early 80s tho, I think. As far as Shea goes, he couldn't recruit New Jersey and didn't want to make a run at the big talents in state, something that Coach Schiano isn't afraid to do. Shea is a great Xs and Os guy, and I think he could really help Grossman alot.
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Doug Graber is also head coach of one of the NFL Europe teams (Frankfurt I thiunk). I hear his name come up occasionally for assistant positions.
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In all seriousness, he made Mike McMahon look pretty good at Rutgers, and is probably the sole reason the guy made the NFL at all. Trent Green has had a couple solid years since he's been there... so maybe it wouldn't be such a bad hire.
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I was simply disputing that Rutgers coaches are making the rounds (I haven't seen Cotrell and Graber going anywhere this year)
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Cottrell got the Vikings DC job last week. He was with the Jets last season. 
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01-16-2004, 03:55 PM
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Back to the Bears, K.C. QB coach Terry Shea has been confirmed as the new OC.
Great news for Bears fans. Shea is seen by many as a top offensive mind and great teacher. This also goes with the direction Smith said he was taking the offense (Rams style with more of a focus on the run),
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Rams style offense with more focus on the run? What exactly is that?
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Picture Faulk getting the ball as much as he should, I'm assuming.
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Doesn't make sense since that's not the Ram's style...what the heck is Lovie talking about? Booker/Gage/Terrell? Soldier Field? The second greatest show on grass? Uh, they don't have Faulk. Lovie needs to let it go and build the Bears own identity. Seems to me the defense and developing Grossman is a good way to start...
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Looks like Grimm won't get either the PIT or WAS OC job...but instead will return as line coach of the Steelers with an attached title so that the team can say they "promoted" him. Whisenhunt will most likely be the Steelers new OC.
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I think Lovie was answering the media's inquiries of the horrific Offense the Bears have. In which case, everyone had known his work with the turnaround of Defenses, but folks have ben wondering what plans he had for the Offense. In which case, he responded as such. Folks were curious about what plans he had for improving offensive production, and apparently, that was the best comparison he could have come up with. The way I see it - as long as offense turns it around and just scores points: ground or air, I'll be satiated. That's just me though.
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Below the roster minimum for Quarterbacks. If I were them, I'd look for somebody who is high in intelligence and leadership.
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What about volatility?
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I don't think a high sperm count has much to do with being a good Quarterback.
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I guess 'Low' would be your choice on this then.
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