Ricky Davis traded for a Bag of Cheetos

Samdari · 12-15-2003, 03:15 PM

Nothing says, "we want you away from LeBron at all costs." quite like this deal. In addition to the bag of Cheetos, the Cavs get a receptionist who's contract is expiring and everything left behind in Rick Pitino's desk.

To Boston: Davis, Chris Mihm and Yogi Stewart

To Cleveland: Battie, Eric Williams and Kedrick Brown.

astralhaze · 12-15-2003, 03:17 PM

Addition by subtraction for the Cavs. Davis can score, but that's about it and he has no concept of the team. Getting him away from LeBron is a great move.

MikeVic · 12-15-2003, 03:17 PM

Wow.. I thought Davis and LeBron had a nice chemistry going, at least on the court? And I thought Chris Mihm was alright?

BishopMVP · 12-15-2003, 03:19 PM

My title was better.

My quote when my friend told me "I like williams. I like battie. I think kedrick will get better. The celtics have been playing amazingly lately with good team chemistry. I don't like ricky davis and i think he's a team cancer. I don't like our stockpiling of big white guys and i have no clue who the hell Yogi is."

I guess both teams fans hate the trade equally.

vtbub · 12-15-2003, 03:20 PM

Ugh!

rkmsuf · 12-15-2003, 03:23 PM

the only value in that trade is Erik Williams who is in the last year of his deal. The other two C's are useless.

If the C's can focus Ricky(Pierce will kick his ass if he makes waves) then it's a plus for boston...

MikeVic · 12-15-2003, 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by BishopMVP
and i have no clue who the hell Yogi is."

I think this is Matthew(??) Stewart that was on the Raptors for like 4 years making over 3M, sitting on the bench.. before that, on the Kings. He had some ok rebounding numbers in one of his Kings years, and I think that's what got him the 3M contract.

BishopMVP · 12-15-2003, 03:26 PM

Tony Battie is solid. Only 6 and 5, but he's been banged up this year.

rkmsuf · 12-15-2003, 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by BishopMVP
Tony Battie is solid. Only 6 and 5, but he's been banged up this year.

Blount has been better. With Battie's continued knee issues he's useless...

BishopMVP · 12-15-2003, 03:29 PM

He's at least equal to Mihm.

rkmsuf · 12-15-2003, 03:30 PM

Okay then...

Samdari · 12-15-2003, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by BishopMVP
Tony Battie is solid. Only 6 and 5, but he's been banged up this year.

And I think Mihm has been better than this as well, showing signs of being able to contribute in the league (as a backup PF, not a franchise center).

As far as chemistry between LeBron and Ricky, I don't think so. In fact, I am surprised to hear someone mention Davis and on-court chemistry together. His reputation (and maybe 10 career games I have seen him play) mark him as not just a "me first" player, but "me only"

astralhaze · 12-15-2003, 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by Samdari
His reputation (and maybe 10 career games I have seen him play) mark him as not just a "me first" player, but "me only"

Indeed. Iowa basically told him not to let the door hit him on the ass on the way out after his freshman season, the Hornets hated him, the Heat made no effort to re-sign him, and the Cavs just traded him for jack even though he was their leading scorer last season.

MikeVic · 12-15-2003, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by Samdari
As far as chemistry between LeBron and Ricky, I don't think so. In fact, I am surprised to hear someone mention Davis and on-court chemistry together. His reputation (and maybe 10 career games I have seen him play) mark him as not just a "me first" player, but "me only"

Ok, my mistake then. I've only seen part of one Cavs game. The rest has been from highlights, and I've seen a lot of alley-oops between LeBron and Davis. But alley-oops != chemistry.

Samdari · 12-15-2003, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by MikeVic
Ok, my mistake then. I've only seen part of one Cavs game. The rest has been from highlights, and I've seen a lot of alley-oops between LeBron and Davis. But alley-oops != chemistry.

I was just surprised to hear someone say that. Many have watched more Cavs games than me, so they may have seen something I did not.

I actually read last week (Chad Ford in NBA Insider) that Davis was basically refusing to pass to LeBron. These alley-oops you saw, were they LeBron to Davis?

MikeVic · 12-15-2003, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by Samdari
I actually read last week (Chad Ford in NBA Insider) that Davis was basically refusing to pass to LeBron. These alley-oops you saw, were they LeBron to Davis?

Most of them were...

But there was one or two with Davis to LeBron. Who knows, could have been just horrible bricks by Davis that LeBron managed to intercept and make Davis look like he was passing.

dacman · 12-15-2003, 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by MikeVic
Wow.. I thought Davis and LeBron had a nice chemistry going, at least on the court?

You might be confusing Davis and Miles -- Miles and James did seem to have a decent chemistry from the Cavs games I saw. Definately not the blackhole (the ball goes in, but never comes out) Davis.

Calis · 12-15-2003, 03:55 PM

Damn that sucks, I'm not a Celtics fan per se, but a huge Pierce fan..and hate to see Ricky Davis on the same team. Haven't seen Davis play much at all this year, but I thought I was hearing about how he had got his act together, sounding like that was a load of bull. Too bad.

Be interesting to see how this plays out.

dacman · 12-15-2003, 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by MikeVic
I think this is Matthew(??) Stewart that was on the Raptors for like 4 years making over 3M, sitting on the bench.. before that, on the Kings. He had some ok rebounding numbers in one of his Kings years, and I think that's what got him the 3M contract.

His given name is (was?) Michael. He was a blocking machine one year with the Kings (back when he and Polynice were the center rotation for them).

edit:spelling

Sublime · 12-15-2003, 04:08 PM

Kedrick Brown actually could turn out to be a very big part of this deal. He has plenty of.....upside (hate to use the word). Kid Ked's D is great and he can jump out of the gym. Jumper definetly needs some work, as doest he rest of his offensive prowess. He's still very young also, the C's drafted him straight outta JuCo. Though I am pleased that the C's picked up Davis. Hopefully he and Pierce can put together a one two combo as good as Pierce and Toine.

rkmsuf · 12-15-2003, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by Sublime
Kedrick Brown actually could turn out to be a very big part of this deal. He has plenty of.....upside (hate to use the word). Kid Ked's D is great and he can jump out of the gym. Jumper definetly needs some work, as doest he rest of his offensive prowess. He's still very young also, the C's drafted him straight outta JuCo. Though I am pleased that the C's picked up Davis. Hopefully he and Pierce can put together a one two combo as good as Pierce and Toine.

You are way off on Brown. The kid hasn't shown any ability to learn the game of basketball. He jumps out of the gym but that's it...

Sublime · 12-15-2003, 04:11 PM

Maybe not on the offensive side of the ball but certainly on the defensive, in part due to his athletic ability. I still think he can grow into a solid bench player.

MikeVic · 12-15-2003, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by dacman
His given name is (was?) Michael. He was a blocking machine one year with the Kings (back when he and Polynice were the center rotation for them).

Yeah, Michael Stewart is right. I knew it started with an "M"... how could I not remember Michael.

rkmsuf · 12-15-2003, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Sublime
Maybe not on the offensive side of the ball but certainly on the defensive, in part due to his athletic ability. I still think he can grow into a solid bench player.

Exactly, a bench player that's it. The Celtics gave him every opportunity to start and he just runs around out there and as far as defense he fouls a lot.

Boston doesn't need to develop bench talent...

Sublime · 12-15-2003, 04:16 PM

Oh i totally agree, but still a solid bench player can be quite valuable. I just don't think that Davis was traded for nothing. EWill has also been solid coming off the bench.

rkmsuf · 12-15-2003, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by Sublime
Oh i totally agree, but still a solid bench player can be quite valuable. I just don't think that Davis was traded for nothing. EWill has also been solid coming off the bench.

Again Williams was probably not going to resign here after the season. He should have been starting and I don't think it is a total conincidence his minutes have been down.

If they can reign Davis in it's a great addition to a running team...

The_herd · 12-15-2003, 04:30 PM

Looks like a good deal for the C's, they add some offensive punch to their lineup and get a very improved Mihm. I think Baker, Pierce, Davis is a good trio of players to have in the East.

For the Cavs, as most have said, its addition by subtraction. They add a solid player in Williams, another athlete in K Brown, and Battie (or El Busto as a few C's fans remember).

I know I'm probably the minority here, but I don't think Davis will be as big of a problem in Boston as he has been in Cleveland. He's not THE guy in Boston, never was. I think that got to his head in Cleveland. He has been the only reliable scorer the past couple years and there wasn't a veteran star to keep him in check. The trade also gets him out of a situation where he'd grown accustomed to losing, which can also lead to some ego problems actually.

In the end, I think both teams did quite well, and Davis gets a fresh start.

rkmsuf · 12-15-2003, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by The_herd
Looks like a good deal for the C's, they add some offensive punch to their lineup and get a very improved Mihm. I think Baker, Pierce, Davis is a good trio of players to have in the East.

For the Cavs, as most have said, its addition by subtraction. They add a solid player in Williams, another athlete in K Brown, and Battie (or El Busto as a few C's fans remember).

I know I'm probably the minority here, but I don't think Davis will be as big of a problem in Boston as he has been in Cleveland. He's not THE guy in Boston, never was. I think that got to his head in Cleveland. He has been the only reliable scorer the past couple years and there wasn't a veteran star to keep him in check. The trade also gets him out of a situation where he'd grown accustomed to losing, which can also lead to some ego problems actually.

In the end, I think both teams did quite well, and Davis gets a fresh start.

Right on!!!

Sublime · 12-15-2003, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by The_herd
Looks like a good deal for the C's, they add some offensive punch to their lineup and get a very improved Mihm. I think Baker, Pierce, Davis is a good trio of players to have in the East.

For the Cavs, as most have said, its addition by subtraction. They add a solid player in Williams, another athlete in K Brown, and Battie (or El Busto as a few C's fans remember).

I know I'm probably the minority here, but I don't think Davis will be as big of a problem in Boston as he has been in Cleveland. He's not THE guy in Boston, never was. I think that got to his head in Cleveland. He has been the only reliable scorer the past couple years and there wasn't a veteran star to keep him in check. The trade also gets him out of a situation where he'd grown accustomed to losing, which can also lead to some ego problems actually.

In the end, I think both teams did quite well, and Davis gets a fresh start.

Definetly Agree Also

Samdari · 12-15-2003, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by The_herd
Davis gets a fresh start.

If he makes the most of it, its a good deal for Boston. What they really gave up here is not Williams, but his expiring contract. Davis is (I believe) locked up for 4-5 years.

BishopMVP · 12-15-2003, 05:02 PM

After thinking a little more, I just hope Pierce bitch-slaps Davis around. Maybe it was just that there was nobody there in Cleveland to do it.

korme · 12-15-2003, 05:30 PM

ESPN just goofed, a little SNAFU on Sportscenter.

It listed Michael Stewart being traded to both teams, one as a C, one as a G/F.. obviously they meant Kedrick Brown for the G/F.

tucker342 · 12-15-2003, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by astralhaze
Indeed. Iowa basically told him not to let the door hit him on the ass on the way out after his freshman season, the Hornets hated him, the Heat made no effort to re-sign him, and the Cavs just traded him for jack even though he was their leading scorer last season.

Oh believe me, at first I was pissed when he left Iowa, then I realised how little he understood the concept of being a "team," and it didn't really bother me after that....

sterlingice · 12-15-2003, 09:52 PM

Wait... wait wait wait wait wait... wait...

wait... wait wait wait wait... wait wait wait wait... wait...

wait... wait wait wait wait... wait wait wait wait... wait...

Wait a minute? We're all missing the big picture here. You're telling me there's a player in the NBA named Yogi?

SI

MikeVic · 12-15-2003, 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by sterlingice
Wait... wait wait wait wait wait... wait...

wait... wait wait wait wait... wait wait wait wait... wait...

wait... wait wait wait wait... wait wait wait wait... wait...

Wait a minute? We're all missing the big picture here. You're telling me there's a player in the NBA named Yogi?

SI

His nickname is Yogi I believe... but maybe everyone calls him Yogi now..

Pumpy Tudors · 12-15-2003, 10:45 PM

I don't know when Michael Stewart started asking people to call him Yogi, but nothing tops NENE.

12-15-2003, 03:17 PM	#2
astralhaze College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2002	Addition by subtraction for the Cavs. Davis can score, but that's about it and he has no concept of the team. Getting him away from LeBron is a great move. __________________ I can understand Brutus at every meaning, but that parahraphy threw me for a loop.

12-15-2003, 03:20 PM	#5
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	Ugh! __________________

12-15-2003, 03:23 PM	#6
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	the only value in that trade is Erik Williams who is in the last year of his deal. The other two C's are useless. If the C's can focus Ricky(Pierce will kick his ass if he makes waves) then it's a plus for boston... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

12-15-2003, 03:30 PM	#11
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Okay then... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

12-15-2003, 04:08 PM	#20
Sublime High School JV Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: NH/Boston University	Kedrick Brown actually could turn out to be a very big part of this deal. He has plenty of.....upside (hate to use the word). Kid Ked's D is great and he can jump out of the gym. Jumper definetly needs some work, as doest he rest of his offensive prowess. He's still very young also, the C's drafted him straight outta JuCo. Though I am pleased that the C's picked up Davis. Hopefully he and Pierce can put together a one two combo as good as Pierce and Toine. __________________ BU Hockey WHAT!

12-15-2003, 03:17 PM	#3
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Wow.. I thought Davis and LeBron had a nice chemistry going, at least on the court? And I thought Chris Mihm was alright?

12-15-2003, 03:19 PM	#4
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	My title was better. My quote when my friend told me "I like williams. I like battie. I think kedrick will get better. The celtics have been playing amazingly lately with good team chemistry. I don't like ricky davis and i think he's a team cancer. I don't like our stockpiling of big white guys and i have no clue who the hell Yogi is." I guess both teams fans hate the trade equally.

12-15-2003, 03:26 PM	#8
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Tony Battie is solid. Only 6 and 5, but he's been banged up this year.

12-15-2003, 03:29 PM	#10
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	He's at least equal to Mihm.

12-15-2003, 03:55 PM	#18
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Damn that sucks, I'm not a Celtics fan per se, but a huge Pierce fan..and hate to see Ricky Davis on the same team. Haven't seen Davis play much at all this year, but I thought I was hearing about how he had got his act together, sounding like that was a load of bull. Too bad. Be interesting to see how this plays out.

12-15-2003, 04:11 PM	#22
Sublime High School JV Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: NH/Boston University	Maybe not on the offensive side of the ball but certainly on the defensive, in part due to his athletic ability. I still think he can grow into a solid bench player. __________________ BU Hockey WHAT!

12-15-2003, 04:16 PM	#25
Sublime High School JV Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: NH/Boston University	Oh i totally agree, but still a solid bench player can be quite valuable. I just don't think that Davis was traded for nothing. EWill has also been solid coming off the bench. __________________ BU Hockey WHAT!

12-15-2003, 04:30 PM	#27
The_herd College Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Fort Lackland, Texas (San Antonio)	Looks like a good deal for the C's, they add some offensive punch to their lineup and get a very improved Mihm. I think Baker, Pierce, Davis is a good trio of players to have in the East. For the Cavs, as most have said, its addition by subtraction. They add a solid player in Williams, another athlete in K Brown, and Battie (or El Busto as a few C's fans remember). I know I'm probably the minority here, but I don't think Davis will be as big of a problem in Boston as he has been in Cleveland. He's not THE guy in Boston, never was. I think that got to his head in Cleveland. He has been the only reliable scorer the past couple years and there wasn't a veteran star to keep him in check. The trade also gets him out of a situation where he'd grown accustomed to losing, which can also lead to some ego problems actually. In the end, I think both teams did quite well, and Davis gets a fresh start. __________________ Oakland Raiders: HFL's 1970 AC West Champs

12-15-2003, 05:02 PM	#31
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	After thinking a little more, I just hope Pierce bitch-slaps Davis around. Maybe it was just that there was nobody there in Cleveland to do it.

12-15-2003, 05:30 PM	#32
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	ESPN just goofed, a little SNAFU on Sportscenter. It listed Michael Stewart being traded to both teams, one as a C, one as a G/F.. obviously they meant Kedrick Brown for the G/F.

12-15-2003, 09:52 PM	#34
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Wait... wait wait wait wait wait... wait... wait... wait wait wait wait... wait wait wait wait... wait... wait... wait wait wait wait... wait wait wait wait... wait... Wait a minute? We're all missing the big picture here. You're telling me there's a player in the NBA named Yogi? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

12-15-2003, 10:45 PM	#36
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I don't know when Michael Stewart started asking people to call him Yogi, but nothing tops NENE. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

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