Create-A-Channel 2013

Young Drachma · 05-13-2013, 10:58 AM

This is shamelessly pilfered from another message board, but still thought it'd be interesting what folks here would do with it.

Would be curious to see what you all would do with it. Not sure there'd be enough interest to make it a "game" but interesting in a world with less people watching what folks would do.

Adapted rules here

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ORIGINAL RULES. I'VE MODIFIED THEM BELOW.

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GENERAL

1. You are allowed broadcast time from 7am to 2:30am - all other hours during the overnight period on all days is considered to be the infamous "paid programming," informercials, or off the air.

2. For all days, the broadcast day is separated into four segments: Daytime (7am to 12pm), Afternoon (12pm to 5pm), Evening (5pm to 10pm) and Late Night (10pm to 2:30am). If you slot a show, it must have shown sometime during that broadcast day segment when it was originally aired. Example: Happy Days originally aired as a prime time sitcom in the 8pm time slot on ABC. Therefore, it is considered an Evening eligible show, despite its rebroadcast after syndication during the Daytime or Late Night segments.

3. Shows whose new/current episodes at time of creation were not intended to be shown more than once per week should not be scheduled more than once during the week. For example, Fox may currently show two episodes of The Simpsons every night, but the new episodes of the current Simpsons seasons have a single regular time slot in the Fox lineup. Similarly with Seinfeld, MASH, etc.

4. If a show was originally designed for daily changing content at a somewhat regular broadcast time such as a nightly news broadcast (e.g. Nightline, CBS Evening News, Countdown, SportsCenter) or a talk show (e.g. Arsenio Hall, Jerry Springer, Larry King Live, Tonight Show) or a game show (Price is Right, Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy), it may be used as the original creators intended. That show may be used with one designated host (or host team) to appear every weekday once. These types of shows do not ignore the time segment rule. For example, you may not show David Letterman at 9am since his show is a Late Night segment program.

5. No show may be slotted more than once per day. Using different hosts for what was substantially the same show does not allow you to use that show twice in the same day, even if it is a daily changing content show. Thus, Olbermann/Patrick SportsCenter is not considered different from Pidto/Scott SportsCenter - they are both SportsCenter.

6. If a show has multiple hosts over the show's history, it should be designated which is being used. This includes news broadcasts.

7. Any designated sporting event that is not a regularly scheduled program must be allocated 3 hours.

SYNDICATION TAGS

You are allowed a maximum of three Syndication Tags to use on any show that has entered syndication and has not aired any new episodes after January 1, 2010. For these syndicated shows, you may ignore rules 2, 3, and 6. You receive all hosts and all episodes if you use a syndication tag and may schedule it whenever you want. Syndicated shows must still obey rules 4 and 5: it may only be scheduled once per day.

CHILDRENS AND ANIMATION EXCEPTION

Shows generally regarded as childrens' programming (Reading Rainbow) or non-Prime Time animation (Smurfs) may be shown daily in the Daytime or Afternoon segments on any day, even if they began as a Saturday morning cartoon. No anime or other non-US shows may qualify for this exception.

FIRST RUN SYNDICATION - The Star Trek: TNG Rule

Any show that began in syndication without a network-wide enforced time slot may be shown in the Afternoon or Evening time segments during weekdays or in any time segment on weekends. These types of shows (Star Trek: The Next Generation, Baywatch) may be shown more than once per week, but are still subject to rule 5 and may not air more than once per day.

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2013, 10:59 AM

Looks like a TV network draft sorta. Sounds cool.

Young Drachma · 05-13-2013, 11:03 AM

I think the January 1, 2006 one would go away. This was originally posted in 2007 and updated briefly in 2010, so surely there would be adjustments made. I just thought it was interesting and would throw it into the wild.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-13-2013, 11:10 AM

What about cable shows? Or are only originally broadcast network shows (and syndication) eligible?

Young Drachma · 05-13-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

What about cable shows? Or are only originally broadcast network shows (and syndication) eligible?

I feel like in 2013, we'd have to add cable shows or else this would be the worst game ever. So yes, let's say cable shows are in play. Should make it way more interesting.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-13-2013, 11:14 AM

Also, just noticed that the dayparts seem to be geared for Central Time rather than Eastern Time.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-13-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Young Drachma

I feel like in 2013, we'd have to add cable shows or else this would be the worst game ever. So yes, let's say cable shows are in play. Should make it way more interesting.

Nah, it wouldn't have been that bad with just broadcast.

Suicane75 · 05-13-2013, 11:22 AM

We talking all time or just on the air now?

QuikSand · 05-13-2013, 11:23 AM

An entry from 2006... which was a monstrously good time for Mrs Q and me to assemble. Rules were still morphing then, so doesn't fit everything above.

I'll link, rather than embed, to save eyes and treat it as a semi-spoiler. There are some ideas in here that I'd probably fight you with a broken beer bottle to protect.

QTV 2006

JonInMiddleGA · 05-13-2013, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

I'll link, rather than embed, to save eyes and treat it as a semi-spoiler. There are some ideas in here that I'd probably fight you with a broken beer bottle to protect.

I looked, just to see if the original intent was indeed "all-time" ... and sonuvabitch if your late nights didn't include what I had typed a few minutes earlier thinking I was one original-thinking-creative-out-of-the-box-SOB.

Dammit.

QuikSand · 05-13-2013, 11:31 AM

Yes, the intent was "all time," originally and in my version above.

Suicane75 · 05-13-2013, 11:33 AM

Shit man, let's do this.

Young Drachma · 05-13-2013, 11:39 AM

I like the all-time designation. See no reason to alter founders intent. Glad QS posted his spreadsheet, too.

Young Drachma · 05-13-2013, 02:32 PM

Ok, we'll make it a game. Not a draft, though. People should just pick what they want. Rather than post your schedule, maybe they should email me and then we vote on the lineups after a time period?

Young Drachma · 05-13-2013, 05:26 PM

Or would folks prefer I simplify the rules. I have an idea to do so. Let me know. Or don't. I just posted this figuring it'd be interesting to riff.

kcchief19 · 05-13-2013, 09:10 PM

The rules have a few quirks deviating from Quik's entry he posted that are a bit puzzling. I'm guessing the reason is to avoid loading up daytime with classic TV prime time hits while not carrying a single soap opera or daytime talk show.

If I'm reading the rules correctly as revised, you can have 3 syndicated shows that break the rules regarding daypart and airing only once per week. So if I want to air reruns of The Brady Bunch, Gilligan's Island and Bewitched in the afternoon Monday-Friday, those are the only prime time shows I can air outside primetime, correct? I can't air Happy Days at 4pm even if I only air it once per week?

I'm kinda bummed I clicked on Quik's link ... clearly QS and Mrs. QS are people I would like to hang out with. There's going to be some similarity with my lineup.

I'll go along with any rules you all like. I assume we should all use east coast prime time to make it consistent?

And for the record, the creator of the rules should be flogged for saying David Letterman can't air in the morning. If I want to the air the 1980 David Letterman Show from NBC's morning lineup, I'll do it dammit.

Young Drachma · 05-13-2013, 09:39 PM

I think I'd prefer the rules be simpler.

So let's do this.

1. Make your own network.
2. Air what you want, when you want. No restrictions. You wanna air 24-hours of Sanford & Son episodes, have at it. I just doubt anyone will want to watch that shit.
2b. Rather than having to be stuck doing a lineup for an entire seven-day period, you should pick your best day lineup. So if you want to build out an awesome Thursday lineup, own that.
2c. You're allowed multiple entries, so if you want to dominate every night's on the tv viewing for pure network dominance, go ahead and attempt that. Just don't want it to be such a daunting undertaking for someone who isn't that committed.
3. The only real rule is you have to name your network something. You can use the dot-o-mator to do it if you want. Because it'd be funny.

Besides that, have at it. I think the peanut gallery will be able to discern which networks seem worth watching and which ones they'd rather never turn on. In a world of 1000s of channels, why not create a few.

The fast-sim guy isn't into a laundry list of rules.

I don't want this to turn into an IWS where we never get a result. So PM me your lineups within say...a week from Friday so MAY 24TH. I'll then post the lineups in a separate thread, we'll vote and gawk at the various channels of hilarity.

How's that?

QuikSand · 05-13-2013, 09:50 PM

Y'all play however you want, but a big part of the fun for us was coming up with themed evenings, time-appropriate slotting, and so forth. I fear that if it's just 24 hours no holds barred, then it just becomes "pick your favorite 20-40 shows" and loses something. (We did some of that with our midday and late night reruns, and with a few exceptions that was unrewarding)

JonInMiddleGA · 05-13-2013, 09:54 PM

I've pretty much got all but a couple of 3 hour weekend blocks filled already, using mostly the original rule set (or at least what I felt was the spirit of the original rule set). Once completed I'll send you that & you can do with it what you will.

Young Drachma · 05-13-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

Y'all play however you want, but a big part of the fun for us was coming up with themed evenings, time-appropriate slotting, and so forth. I fear that if it's just 24 hours no holds barred, then it just becomes "pick your favorite 20-40 shows" and loses something. (We did some of that with our midday and late night reruns, and with a few exceptions that was unrewarding)

I'm indifferent either way. People send what they want. I was just afraid the original task was a bit...daunting for casuals. But I'll take what we get either way.

kcchief19 · 05-13-2013, 10:41 PM

Maybe that can be part of the judging. I'd like to think the peanut gallery would reward the more ambitious player who has some house rules for the challenge than just a top 30 shows of all time. I have no problems with the original rules.

05-13-2013, 11:10 AM	#4
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	What about cable shows? Or are only originally broadcast network shows (and syndication) eligible? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

05-13-2013, 11:14 AM	#6
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Also, just noticed that the dayparts seem to be geared for Central Time rather than Eastern Time. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

05-13-2013, 09:54 PM	#19
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I've pretty much got all but a couple of 3 hour weekend blocks filled already, using mostly the original rule set (or at least what I felt was the spirit of the original rule set). Once completed I'll send you that & you can do with it what you will. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

05-13-2013, 10:59 AM	#2
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Looks like a TV network draft sorta. Sounds cool.

05-13-2013, 11:03 AM	#3
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I think the January 1, 2006 one would go away. This was originally posted in 2007 and updated briefly in 2010, so surely there would be adjustments made. I just thought it was interesting and would throw it into the wild.

05-13-2013, 11:22 AM	#8
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	We talking all time or just on the air now?

05-13-2013, 11:23 AM	#9
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	An entry from 2006... which was a monstrously good time for Mrs Q and me to assemble. Rules were still morphing then, so doesn't fit everything above. I'll link, rather than embed, to save eyes and treat it as a semi-spoiler. There are some ideas in here that I'd probably fight you with a broken beer bottle to protect. QTV 2006

05-13-2013, 11:31 AM	#11
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Yes, the intent was "all time," originally and in my version above.

05-13-2013, 11:33 AM	#12
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Shit man, let's do this.

05-13-2013, 11:39 AM	#13
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I like the all-time designation. See no reason to alter founders intent. Glad QS posted his spreadsheet, too.

05-13-2013, 02:32 PM	#14
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Ok, we'll make it a game. Not a draft, though. People should just pick what they want. Rather than post your schedule, maybe they should email me and then we vote on the lineups after a time period?

05-13-2013, 05:26 PM	#15
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Or would folks prefer I simplify the rules. I have an idea to do so. Let me know. Or don't. I just posted this figuring it'd be interesting to riff.

05-13-2013, 09:10 PM	#16
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	The rules have a few quirks deviating from Quik's entry he posted that are a bit puzzling. I'm guessing the reason is to avoid loading up daytime with classic TV prime time hits while not carrying a single soap opera or daytime talk show. If I'm reading the rules correctly as revised, you can have 3 syndicated shows that break the rules regarding daypart and airing only once per week. So if I want to air reruns of The Brady Bunch, Gilligan's Island and Bewitched in the afternoon Monday-Friday, those are the only prime time shows I can air outside primetime, correct? I can't air Happy Days at 4pm even if I only air it once per week? I'm kinda bummed I clicked on Quik's link ... clearly QS and Mrs. QS are people I would like to hang out with. There's going to be some similarity with my lineup. I'll go along with any rules you all like. I assume we should all use east coast prime time to make it consistent? And for the record, the creator of the rules should be flogged for saying David Letterman can't air in the morning. If I want to the air the 1980 David Letterman Show from NBC's morning lineup, I'll do it dammit.

05-13-2013, 09:39 PM	#17
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I think I'd prefer the rules be simpler. So let's do this. 1. Make your own network. 2. Air what you want, when you want. No restrictions. You wanna air 24-hours of Sanford & Son episodes, have at it. I just doubt anyone will want to watch that shit. 2b. Rather than having to be stuck doing a lineup for an entire seven-day period, you should pick your best day lineup. So if you want to build out an awesome Thursday lineup, own that. 2c. You're allowed multiple entries, so if you want to dominate every night's on the tv viewing for pure network dominance, go ahead and attempt that. Just don't want it to be such a daunting undertaking for someone who isn't that committed. 3. The only real rule is you have to name your network something. You can use the dot-o-mator to do it if you want. Because it'd be funny. Besides that, have at it. I think the peanut gallery will be able to discern which networks seem worth watching and which ones they'd rather never turn on. In a world of 1000s of channels, why not create a few. The fast-sim guy isn't into a laundry list of rules. I don't want this to turn into an IWS where we never get a result. So PM me your lineups within say...a week from Friday so MAY 24TH. I'll then post the lineups in a separate thread, we'll vote and gawk at the various channels of hilarity. How's that?

05-13-2013, 09:50 PM	#18
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Y'all play however you want, but a big part of the fun for us was coming up with themed evenings, time-appropriate slotting, and so forth. I fear that if it's just 24 hours no holds barred, then it just becomes "pick your favorite 20-40 shows" and loses something. (We did some of that with our midday and late night reruns, and with a few exceptions that was unrewarding)

05-13-2013, 10:41 PM	#21
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Maybe that can be part of the judging. I'd like to think the peanut gallery would reward the more ambitious player who has some house rules for the challenge than just a top 30 shows of all time. I have no problems with the original rules.

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