Graphic Mods for FOF2004 - Page 2

Joe Stallings · 11-01-2003, 09:22 PM

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I still think it's ridiculous that a text sim requires a larger monitor display than, say, a game like Jedi Knight Outcast.

I disagree. I think the sheer density of information you see in a complex management simulation is much more in need of breathing room than a FPS. Anyone remember trying to play Europa Univeralis at 800x600? The smaller the screen size, the more number of clicks it takes to get to information. And getting to information easily is one of the most important concepts in a sim.

Joe

mckerney · 11-01-2003, 09:30 PM

Alright, I've been trying a few 35 x 35 logos out, and here are some examples for the CFLers out there:

Ben E Lou · 11-02-2003, 06:51 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Stallings
And getting to information easily is one of the most important concepts in a sim.

Joe

I agree wholeheartedly. The more on one screen, the better.

Fritz · 11-02-2003, 07:19 AM

information should never get in the way of a good static picture.

MizzouRah · 11-02-2003, 10:20 AM

Yes, the helmets look nice!

Todd

MizzouRah · 11-02-2003, 10:25 AM

Alternate....

Todd

MizzouRah · 11-02-2003, 10:28 AM

Shorty's rendition....

Todd

Buccaneer · 11-02-2003, 10:32 AM

Mizzou, both of your renditions look great! I do so more real estate on the screen than can be used by design but that's just my opinion.

MizzouRah · 11-02-2003, 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by Buccaneer
Mizzou, both of your renditions look great! I do so more real estate on the screen than can be used by design but that's just my opinion.

Thanks!

Hey, at least it's a start for Jim.

It might sound meaningless, but having even that little 35x35 graphic does something for me as far as immersion goes.

Todd

rexallllsc · 11-02-2003, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Buccaneer
Mizzou, both of your renditions look great! I do so more real estate on the screen than can be used by design but that's just my opinion.

I agree. Kinda hard to notice them unless you look up at the corner and are looking for them, specifically.

yabanci · 11-02-2003, 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by MizzouRah
Thanks!

Hey, at least it's a start for Jim. It might sound meaningless, but having even that little 35x35 graphic does something for me as far as immersion goes.

Todd

nice work. I agree it sounds meaningless if you think of the tiny helmets as a step towards a graphical interface (which I don't think they are), but I think they are meaningful if you think of them as just a nice added touch to a TEXT sim (instant replay in TCY notwithstanding). I think having a graphic, even if small, helps you associate a player with his team.

mckerney · 11-02-2003, 12:46 PM

Here's a CFL one:

rexallllsc · 11-02-2003, 01:35 PM

Do the player card colors change w/ the players?

I.E. Time Browns card would be Silver & Black, Jeff Garcia's would be Red and Gold...

FBPro · 11-02-2003, 02:48 PM

Good question, now that would be a nice touch.

Sweed · 11-02-2003, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by rexallllsc
Do the player card colors change w/ the players?

I.E. Time Browns card would be Silver & Black, Jeff Garcia's would be Red and Gold...

From what I've gathered in the threads about 2k4 is that your team colors or whatever colors you select would be used for the player cards and any other team functions you select.

This comes from the description at the solescismic site

"The game comes with 32 team color schemes and 32 textured bitmaps for optional use with most screens. You can also use this screen to edit the color schemes to come up with a design that suits your own tastes. "

edited to add the quote

MizzouRah · 11-02-2003, 03:05 PM

Nice Sweed, I missed that info.

Here's a little more from solecismic.com:

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Customized Screen Display. Maintain complete color control over just about every element of every screen in the game. Keep different color profiles for each team you control

Todd

MizzouRah · 11-02-2003, 04:47 PM

Here's a graphic for the incoming draftees.

Todd

edit: to avoid confusion, I'm taking logos out until the game is out and I'm sure they work ok.

korme · 11-02-2003, 05:07 PM

sweet

Solecismic · 11-02-2003, 09:24 PM

You guys are good. I should have begged you for some generic logos for the release version.

At that size, you're right, logos are better than helmets.

MizzouRah · 11-02-2003, 11:08 PM

All I do is resize, I couldn't draw a stick figure.

Is there any way to get the naming and file formats for these logos so I can have both sets zipped up and ready to go for release?

Also, Skydog.... could this thread be sticky? People will be asking where the logos, player file, backdrops, etc.. for FOF 2004 this time around.

For some reason, it seems as if FOF 2004 has bigger hype than FOF4 did.

Thanks,

Todd

JeeberD · 11-03-2003, 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by MizzouRah
For some reason, it seems as if FOF 2004 has bigger hype than FOF4 did.

That's what multiplayer will do for ya...

MizzouRah · 11-04-2003, 12:08 AM

Set #3

NFL Team logos with backgrounds...

Todd

edit: to avoid confusion, I'm taking logos out until the game is out and I'm sure they work ok.

MizzouRah · 11-04-2003, 09:58 AM

Maybe my final set....

Set #4

These have more color.

Todd

I'm going to repost all of these in the proper format, renamed and ready to go when the game comes out.

Just trying to keep them all in one place for the moment.

edit: to avoid confusion, I'm taking logos out until the game is out and I'm sure they work ok.

FloridaFringe · 11-04-2003, 10:04 AM

Excellent work MizzouRah. Those look very crisp and clean. It truly is amazing how well these logos have turned out at only 35x35.

MizzouRah · 11-04-2003, 11:03 PM

Thanks for the kind words.

I now have 6 sets done, I must be a "little" graphic nerd.

I think I'll do some team specific backgrounds once the game comes out as well, if possible. Maybe a white background within the game with a logo or something?

Todd

mtaystl03 · 11-05-2003, 12:46 AM

So we can make our own backgrounds for the game?

MizzouRah · 11-05-2003, 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by mtaystl03
So we can make our own backgrounds for the game?

With reshacker you can pretty much do what you want with the bitmaps in the game. Although with all the new screens, you might have to do it like Fritz showed instead of in the game itself.

Todd

mtaystl03 · 11-05-2003, 10:25 AM

Reshacker? Sorry, novice.

MizzouRah · 11-05-2003, 11:57 AM

It's a utility that allows you to change various .bmp's within FOF or TCY. (Actually any game that uses a certain programming language).

I'm no programmer, and it's been easy to use to change say, the scoreboard in FOF4.

I believe Dutch has a website with all the info and the tool. I'm at work, so I don't have his site address, but you can look up his username and he has it listed in his profile.

Todd

11-01-2003, 09:30 PM	#52
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Alright, I've been trying a few 35 x 35 logos out, and here are some examples for the CFLers out there: Last edited by mckerney : 11-01-2003 at 09:36 PM.

11-02-2003, 07:19 AM	#54
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	information should never get in the way of a good static picture. __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

11-02-2003, 02:48 PM	#64
FBPro College Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SE	Good question, now that would be a nice touch. __________________ GM RayCo Raiders-est. 2004-2012 Charter member of the IHOF-RayCo GM GM Tennessee Titans PFL 2011-2014 GM Tennessee Titans FOWL 2020-2025

11-02-2003, 04:47 PM	#67
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Here's a graphic for the incoming draftees. Todd edit: to avoid confusion, I'm taking logos out until the game is out and I'm sure they work ok. Last edited by MizzouRah : 11-05-2003 at 12:04 PM.

11-04-2003, 12:08 AM	#72
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Set #3 NFL Team logos with backgrounds... Todd edit: to avoid confusion, I'm taking logos out until the game is out and I'm sure they work ok. Last edited by MizzouRah : 11-05-2003 at 12:05 PM.

11-02-2003, 10:20 AM	#55
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Yes, the helmets look nice! Todd

11-02-2003, 10:25 AM	#56
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Alternate.... Todd

11-02-2003, 10:28 AM	#57
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Shorty's rendition.... Todd

11-02-2003, 10:32 AM	#58
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Mizzou, both of your renditions look great! I do so more real estate on the screen than can be used by design but that's just my opinion.

11-02-2003, 12:46 PM	#62
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Here's a CFL one:

11-02-2003, 01:35 PM	#63
rexallllsc Banned Join Date: May 2003	Do the player card colors change w/ the players? I.E. Time Browns card would be Silver & Black, Jeff Garcia's would be Red and Gold...

11-02-2003, 05:07 PM	#68
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	sweet

11-02-2003, 09:24 PM	#69
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	You guys are good. I should have begged you for some generic logos for the release version. At that size, you're right, logos are better than helmets.

11-02-2003, 11:08 PM	#70
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	All I do is resize, I couldn't draw a stick figure. Is there any way to get the naming and file formats for these logos so I can have both sets zipped up and ready to go for release? Also, Skydog.... could this thread be sticky? People will be asking where the logos, player file, backdrops, etc.. for FOF 2004 this time around. For some reason, it seems as if FOF 2004 has bigger hype than FOF4 did. Thanks, Todd

11-04-2003, 09:58 AM	#73
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Maybe my final set.... Set #4 These have more color. Todd I'm going to repost all of these in the proper format, renamed and ready to go when the game comes out. Just trying to keep them all in one place for the moment. edit: to avoid confusion, I'm taking logos out until the game is out and I'm sure they work ok. Last edited by MizzouRah : 11-05-2003 at 12:06 PM.

11-04-2003, 10:04 AM	#74
FloridaFringe H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale Fla	Excellent work MizzouRah. Those look very crisp and clean. It truly is amazing how well these logos have turned out at only 35x35.

11-04-2003, 11:03 PM	#75
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Thanks for the kind words. I now have 6 sets done, I must be a "little" graphic nerd. I think I'll do some team specific backgrounds once the game comes out as well, if possible. Maybe a white background within the game with a logo or something? Todd Last edited by MizzouRah : 11-04-2003 at 11:03 PM.

11-05-2003, 12:46 AM	#76
mtaystl03 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO	So we can make our own backgrounds for the game? __________________ Go STL Sports!

11-05-2003, 10:25 AM	#78
mtaystl03 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO	Reshacker? Sorry, novice. __________________ Go STL Sports!

11-05-2003, 11:57 AM	#79
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	It's a utility that allows you to change various .bmp's within FOF or TCY. (Actually any game that uses a certain programming language). I'm no programmer, and it's been easy to use to change say, the scoreboard in FOF4. I believe Dutch has a website with all the info and the tool. I'm at work, so I don't have his site address, but you can look up his username and he has it listed in his profile. Todd

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