Ryan Leaf

JPhillips · 12-22-2006, 03:34 PM

Did anyone else see him during the Las Vegas Bowl last night? He's been given the golf coaching job at West Texas A&M so he can stay on as an unpaid QB coach.

What impressed me is that he finally seemed to have his head on straight. They asked him about his NFL days and he said he wasn't going to let those years define him. He said he was in a good place at West Texas and wanted to move on with his coaching career.

I hope the guy has found his place in life. For the first time I actually find myself rooting for his success.

Kodos · 12-22-2006, 03:44 PM

"Okay, so this is the gesture you give to the fans when they boo you..."

Lorena · 12-22-2006, 04:48 PM

Upaid coach? Wow! I remember him on the Dan Patrick Show a while back and he didn't sound like the Ryan Leaf and remembered and hated..

cthomer5000 · 12-22-2006, 05:43 PM

Im tired of feeling obligated to root for for whiny fucking brats who come to realize they were an asshole all along. There are plenty of good people out there who weren't acting like assholes for long period of time that id rather root for.

I hope Ryan Leaf gets whatever he deserves, no more no less.

Young Drachma · 12-22-2006, 06:10 PM

I think it's good for the kids there to learn from a guy they'd otherwise not be able to. So, they benefit...why not.

Greyroofoo · 12-22-2006, 07:11 PM

Peyton Manning > Ryan Leaf

Buccaneer · 12-22-2006, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

Peyton Manning > Ryan Leaf

0 SB Rings == 0 SB Rings

IMetLyleAlzado · 12-22-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

0 SB Rings == 0 SB Rings

Hall of Fame > Who was the other QB taken...

Senator · 12-22-2006, 08:45 PM

Ryan Leaf < Todd Marinovich

Noble_Platypus · 12-22-2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by IMetLyleAlzado

Hall of Fame > Who was the other QB taken...

I guess if the defining mark of success is a superbowl ring then everybody out there would rather have Doug williams and Trent Dilfer than Manning or Marino or Fouts. Funny, its always the QB that wins the ring or doesnt, but when the Ravens won it was the defense that won it for them, not Dilfer.

Buccaneer · 12-22-2006, 08:49 PM

Seriously, I don't measure a HOF career by the number of SB ring because football is so much a team sport. It was ridiculous to knock Marino, Elway (before he got his two late) and Manning in thinking they were/are something that much less because of the lack of rings.

JeffW · 12-22-2006, 08:52 PM

There is a documentary film coming out about Ryan Leaf.

Noble_Platypus · 12-22-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Seriously, I don't measure a HOF career by the number of SB ring because football is so much a team sport. It was ridiculous to knock Marino, Elway (before he got his two late) and Manning in thinking they were/are something that much less because of the lack of rings.

Agreed. Its not an arm wrestling contest. If Tom Brady alone wins the Pats SB rings why didnt he win last year? If the QB has a bad game, he could be blamed for a loss, but dropped balls, piss poor pass blocking and a run defense that gives up a gazillion yards a game cant be blamed on the QB.

Also, I think its funny how Elway was a good QB with a 0-3 SB record and then when TD gets in the backfields with him and they win 2 its all because of Elway and he is the greatest all time.

Buccaneer · 12-22-2006, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Noble_Platypus

Agreed. Its not an arm wrestling contest. If Tom Brady alone wins the Pats SB rings why didnt he win last year? If the QB has a bad game, he could be blamed for a loss, but dropped balls, piss poor pass blocking and a run defense that gives up a gazillion yards a game cant be blamed on the QB.

Also, I think its funny how Elway was a good QB with a 0-3 SB record and then when TD gets in the backfields with him and they win 2 its all because of Elway and he is the greatest all time.

...and Shanahan becomes the Mastermind.

Noble_Platypus · 12-22-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

...and Shanahan becomes the Mastermind.

That too.

Bearcat729 · 11-06-2008, 10:34 AM

ESPN - West Texas A&M quarterbacks coach Ryan Leaf takes leave of absence

Leaf placed on leave from position as QB coach at West Texas A&M

By Joe Schad
ESPN.com
(Archive)

West Texas A&M quarterbacks coach Ryan Leaf, the former San Diego Chargers quarterback, has been placed on indefinite leave at his request to deal with a personal issue, athletic director Michael McBroom said Wednesday.

Ryan Leaf is in his third season as quarterbacks coach at Division II West Texas A&M.

A person briefed on the situation said that Leaf acknowledged he had asked a player for a pill to help him deal with pain in his wrist dating to his NFL playing days.

McBroom said he met with Leaf on Sunday to "go through some options, and we agreed that a leave is the best option."

McBroom said he could not comment on the allegation until all inquiries had been completed, and he could not say if or when Leaf would return.

Leaf, in his third season at West Texas A&M, was the second overall pick in the 1998 draft and retired in 2002.

Leaf also is the men's golf coach at the school.

West Texas A&M, a Division II school, is 9-1 and has one game, versus Tarleton State, left on its regular-season schedule. Senior quarterback Keith Null has completed 67.7 percent of his passes for 3,812 yards with 36 touchdowns and 14 interceptions.

"Ryan doesn't want this to be a distraction from the team," McBroom said. "He and I agreed this is the best course of action until we figure everything out."

Leaf, a Heisman Trophy finalist at Washington State, was taken second in the 1998 draft behind only Peyton Manning. He retired after four dismal seasons, best known for his profane off-field outbursts toward fans, coaches and reporters. He finished his career with 14 touchdowns and 36 interceptions.

Joe Schad covers college football for ESPN.com. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

albionmoonlight · 11-06-2008, 10:38 AM

Poor bastard.

Sun Tzu · 11-06-2008, 10:42 AM

Crazy.

Mustang · 11-06-2008, 10:43 AM

Ryan Leaf has done stupid things in the past, but I'd chalk asking for a painkiller as more of a meh type thing.

RendeR · 11-06-2008, 10:48 AM

Like most people involved with a team don't bum a painkiller or ten from the players when they want /need one, this is a total non issue. Its about as bad as me asking for an excedrin for my migraines from my coworkers.

Lathum · 11-06-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

Ryan Leaf has done stupid things in the past, but I'd chalk asking for a painkiller as more of a meh type thing.

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Like most people involved with a team don't bum a painkiller or ten from the players when they want /need one, this is a total non issue. Its about as bad as me asking for an excedrin for my migraines from my coworkers.

Exactly, he gets so much extra scrutiny because he is Ryan Leaf. It's not like he was buying them in bulk from the players...

BrianD · 11-06-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Like most people involved with a team don't bum a painkiller or ten from the players when they want /need one, this is a total non issue. Its about as bad as me asking for an excedrin for my migraines from my coworkers.

Assuming these are prescription painkillers, it is slightly worse than asking for an Excedrin. Coaches should be setting a better example. With the addictive nature of these drugs, you don't want to be too flippant about passing these around. Hopefully Ryan will get some help if he does have an addiction, or a prescription for his own pills if he doesn't.

JPhillips · 11-06-2008, 11:44 AM

As a university employee he can't do that. In the grand scheme it's not that big of a deal, but professors/coaches just can't ask for controlled substances from students.

SFL Cat · 11-06-2008, 11:50 AM

Why not go to the team doctor and ask?

RendeR · 11-06-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SFL Cat

Why not go to the team doctor and ask?

Team doctor isn't allowed to work on coaches/staff. He reports to them but only has clearance to work on the players.

Unless something major changed in the last 20 years....

RendeR · 11-06-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

Assuming these are prescription painkillers, it is slightly worse than asking for an Excedrin. Coaches should be setting a better example. With the addictive nature of these drugs, you don't want to be too flippant about passing these around. Hopefully Ryan will get some help if he does have an addiction, or a prescription for his own pills if he doesn't.

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

As a university employee he can't do that. In the grand scheme it's not that big of a deal, but professors/coaches just can't ask for controlled substances from students.

I understand and agree with you both in principle, but unless, as you say there is an addiction issue going on there really isn't a story here. Now, since there IS a story here and he's been put on leave I'm betting he's fallen off the wagon so to speak and is having trouble managing his pain meds.

BrianD · 11-06-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

I understand and agree with you both in principle, but unless, as you say there is an addiction issue going on there really isn't a story here. Now, since there IS a story here and he's been put on leave I'm betting he's fallen off the wagon so to speak and is having trouble managing his pain meds.

If there is no addiction component, I'd expect this to be handled by someone telling Leaf not to set this kind of example for the kids. It probably wouldn't be worth reporting.

JPhillips · 11-06-2008, 02:05 PM

I'm sure if I was caught asking for a controlled substance, prescription or not, from a student I would be in grave danger of losing my job.

Shkspr · 11-06-2008, 10:57 PM

Leaf has resigned the position. No word yet on how this will impact the criminal investigation.

Senator · 11-06-2008, 11:09 PM

He has become the John Rocker/John Daly of football. Nothing goes right.

Galaxy · 05-23-2009, 10:07 PM

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...findicted.html

RainMaker · 05-23-2009, 10:30 PM

Good riddance to that loser. Was always an arrogant asshole who thought the world owed him something.

EagleFan · 05-24-2009, 01:09 AM

My favorite Ryan Leaf memory:

1 for 15 (6.7%) for 4 yards, 2 interceptions, 2 sacks, 4 fumbles, 3 fumbles lost, 0.0 rating

He had only 2 games in hies career with a rating of 80 or better (one was a game he came in as an injury substiture and threw just 8 passes and the other was one where his receivers broke open a few big gains for touchdowns and he was under 50% completion that game and fumbled the ball 3 times which doesn't affect rating).

It's amazing just how much of an asshole he is for someone who sucked so badly. Not that being a good player would be a legitimate reason to be an asshole but then a primadona attitude could at least be understood to an extent.

This guy makes Jeff "I'll take the sack so it doesn't hurt my rating" George look like Peyton Manning.

lungs · 05-24-2009, 07:01 AM

Hopefully he is getting the treatment he obviously needs.

Karlifornia · 05-24-2009, 01:12 PM

Wow..just reading the story comments, it sounds like pretty much everyone hates him.

DeToxRox · 05-24-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Wow..just reading the story comments, it sounds like pretty much everyone hates him.

You're FOFC's Ryan Leaf, asshole.

Karlifornia · 05-24-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

You're FOFC's Ryan Leaf, asshole.

What's the emoticon for "Sad, but kind of horny in a pathetically lonely way"?

jeff061 · 05-24-2009, 01:45 PM

CrimsonFox · 04-08-2012, 10:22 PM

Ryan Leaf Somehow Worse At Crime Than Football | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

12-22-2006, 08:45 PM	#9
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	Ryan Leaf < Todd Marinovich __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

11-06-2008, 10:34 AM	#16
Bearcat729 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	ESPN - West Texas A&M quarterbacks coach Ryan Leaf takes leave of absence Leaf placed on leave from position as QB coach at West Texas A&M By Joe Schad ESPN.com (Archive) West Texas A&M quarterbacks coach Ryan Leaf, the former San Diego Chargers quarterback, has been placed on indefinite leave at his request to deal with a personal issue, athletic director Michael McBroom said Wednesday. Ryan Leaf is in his third season as quarterbacks coach at Division II West Texas A&M. A person briefed on the situation said that Leaf acknowledged he had asked a player for a pill to help him deal with pain in his wrist dating to his NFL playing days. McBroom said he met with Leaf on Sunday to "go through some options, and we agreed that a leave is the best option." McBroom said he could not comment on the allegation until all inquiries had been completed, and he could not say if or when Leaf would return. Leaf, in his third season at West Texas A&M, was the second overall pick in the 1998 draft and retired in 2002. Leaf also is the men's golf coach at the school. West Texas A&M, a Division II school, is 9-1 and has one game, versus Tarleton State, left on its regular-season schedule. Senior quarterback Keith Null has completed 67.7 percent of his passes for 3,812 yards with 36 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. "Ryan doesn't want this to be a distraction from the team," McBroom said. "He and I agreed this is the best course of action until we figure everything out." Leaf, a Heisman Trophy finalist at Washington State, was taken second in the 1998 draft behind only Peyton Manning. He retired after four dismal seasons, best known for his profane off-field outbursts toward fans, coaches and reporters. He finished his career with 14 touchdowns and 36 interceptions. Joe Schad covers college football for ESPN.com. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report. __________________ Bearcat729 on XBox Live and PSN

11-06-2008, 10:42 AM	#18
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	Crazy. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

11-06-2008, 10:43 AM	#19
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	Ryan Leaf has done stupid things in the past, but I'd chalk asking for a painkiller as more of a meh type thing. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

11-06-2008, 11:44 AM	#23
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	As a university employee he can't do that. In the grand scheme it's not that big of a deal, but professors/coaches just can't ask for controlled substances from students. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

12-22-2006, 03:44 PM	#2
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	"Okay, so this is the gesture you give to the fans when they boo you..."

12-22-2006, 04:48 PM	#3
Lorena Unregistered Join Date: May 2004	Upaid coach? Wow! I remember him on the Dan Patrick Show a while back and he didn't sound like the Ryan Leaf and remembered and hated..

12-22-2006, 06:10 PM	#5
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I think it's good for the kids there to learn from a guy they'd otherwise not be able to. So, they benefit...why not.

12-22-2006, 07:11 PM	#6
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	Peyton Manning > Ryan Leaf

12-22-2006, 08:49 PM	#11
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Seriously, I don't measure a HOF career by the number of SB ring because football is so much a team sport. It was ridiculous to knock Marino, Elway (before he got his two late) and Manning in thinking they were/are something that much less because of the lack of rings.

12-22-2006, 08:52 PM	#12
JeffW High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2005	There is a documentary film coming out about Ryan Leaf.

11-06-2008, 10:38 AM	#17
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Poor bastard.

11-06-2008, 10:48 AM	#20
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Like most people involved with a team don't bum a painkiller or ten from the players when they want /need one, this is a total non issue. Its about as bad as me asking for an excedrin for my migraines from my coworkers.

11-06-2008, 11:50 AM	#24
SFL Cat College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Florida	Why not go to the team doctor and ask?

11-06-2008, 02:05 PM	#28
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I'm sure if I was caught asking for a controlled substance, prescription or not, from a student I would be in grave danger of losing my job. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

11-06-2008, 10:57 PM	#29
Shkspr College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX	Leaf has resigned the position. No word yet on how this will impact the criminal investigation.

11-06-2008, 11:09 PM	#30
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	He has become the John Rocker/John Daly of football. Nothing goes right. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

05-23-2009, 10:07 PM	#31
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...findicted.html

05-23-2009, 10:30 PM	#32
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Good riddance to that loser. Was always an arrogant asshole who thought the world owed him something.

05-24-2009, 01:09 AM	#33
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	My favorite Ryan Leaf memory: 1 for 15 (6.7%) for 4 yards, 2 interceptions, 2 sacks, 4 fumbles, 3 fumbles lost, 0.0 rating He had only 2 games in hies career with a rating of 80 or better (one was a game he came in as an injury substiture and threw just 8 passes and the other was one where his receivers broke open a few big gains for touchdowns and he was under 50% completion that game and fumbled the ball 3 times which doesn't affect rating). It's amazing just how much of an asshole he is for someone who sucked so badly. Not that being a good player would be a legitimate reason to be an asshole but then a primadona attitude could at least be understood to an extent. This guy makes Jeff "I'll take the sack so it doesn't hurt my rating" George look like Peyton Manning.

05-24-2009, 07:01 AM	#34
lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	Hopefully he is getting the treatment he obviously needs.

05-24-2009, 01:12 PM	#35
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Wow..just reading the story comments, it sounds like pretty much everyone hates him. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

05-24-2009, 01:45 PM	#38
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	__________________

04-08-2012, 10:22 PM	#39
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Ryan Leaf Somehow Worse At Crime Than Football \| The Onion - America's Finest News Source

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