02-10-2010, 09:39 AM | #151 | |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
|
Quote:
Isn't that the problem with creating a game that is so customizable though, is that it creates these problems? If the game was more "buttoned up" then it would presumably have fewer issues like this. And I know part of the appeal is "super customization," but when that "super customization" breaks the #1 baseball league in the world (and honestly probably the majority of reasons for your sales) then that's an issue.
__________________
Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature. |
|
02-10-2010, 10:26 AM | #152 | |
College Starter
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Toronto
|
Quote:
I don't have a problem with losing the case. I think the computer suggestion was 4.5 million. I lost, he asked for much more then he's worth, imo, i offered what i felt was a fair deal for a 1 year starter with limited ratings. My point is the computer had to think he was worth that much based on his number's, but not his ratings. On the other hand, a player, Rasmus, who had a awful season, got rewarded based on his ratings, not his stats. Common sense suggests both players got rewarded way too much considering it's there first arbitration year, and the points i tried to make. Joey Devine is a great example. What's that demand based on? He's a good pitcher, rated well, but he had done next to nothing to argue for that money other then "he has the tool's to be succesful". Now that he's actually established himself as a good, legitimate reliever, an all-star selection, some great numbers, he's not asking or getting rewarded as much.
__________________
FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML Last edited by Johnny93g : 02-10-2010 at 10:32 AM. |
|
02-10-2010, 10:28 AM | #153 | |
College Starter
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Toronto
|
Quote:
You may be right, I could be assuming you can because i know NHL teams are allowed to, which has happened, if they are unhappy with the ruling.
__________________
FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML |
|
02-10-2010, 10:35 AM | #154 | |
High School Varsity
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: springfield, il
|
Quote:
I've bought every version of OOTP since 3, and if I had one "complaint" this would be it. I wish the MLB setup (historical and fictional) was spot on before adding all the options that are available. |
|
02-10-2010, 02:22 PM | #155 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
|
You can walk away from arbitration for something like 1/6th, IIRC. Basically 30 days termination pay.
|
02-10-2010, 06:39 PM | #156 | |
College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Oct 2003
|
Quote:
I'm no expert on the subject but this surprises me. I thought once you entered, club or player, it was an either\or that both parties were agreeing to. I'll defer and accept that you are right since I'm only going on my own perceived belief. I will ask this though, can the player walk away too? At what cost? Seems a bit unfair if the club has an out but the player doesn't. Also have a hard time thinking the union went along with an out for the club only? Look at it this way.. Player wants 5mil club offers 2mil. Arbiter sides with player at 5mil. Club says no thanks and cuts him a check for a little over 800k? Now..Same situation but arbiter sides with club player only gets 2mil, hardly fair with no out when player feels surely on the open market he'll get 3+? Or are you saying the player can also opt out and pay the club 1/6th? In this case the player can opt out and owe the club a ~ 330K to buy his free agency? Doesn't sound right to me but then who knows what kind of stuff is buried in the small print. |
|
02-10-2010, 10:02 PM | #157 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
|
I just remember that one thing that boras said when he shit the bed and didn't take Boston offering arb for Veritek was that he could accept the offer. But that Boston could walk away with 30 days termination pay. I may have read it wrong.
|
02-10-2010, 11:11 PM | #158 | |
College Starter
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Somerville, MA
|
Quote:
No, you are absolutely correct. The Red Sox did the same thing with Tony Graffanino. After the 2005 season Graffanino accepted arbitration and was subsequently released by the Red Sox towards the end of spring training and was only owed 1/6 of his salary. Last edited by McSweeny : 02-10-2010 at 11:12 PM. |
|
02-10-2010, 11:32 PM | #159 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
|
Sweed
In a players arbitration years he has to take the deal. Now he can't get more than a 10% reduction. If a guy is out of his arbitration years and accepts it to avoid FA he basically knows what salary he will get. Basically your 2/5 scenerio could never happen. The player would be under club control. Or would be getting a fairly big chunk of change. |
02-11-2010, 08:10 AM | #160 | |
College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Oct 2003
|
Quote:
Thanks, never realized that clubs actually had an out. Everywhere I've seen it in action or described I was left with the impression, as I said earlier, that it was either or for both parties. Live and learn. |
|
02-11-2010, 11:16 AM | #161 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
|
This series needs 2d/3d game watching... the stats are way beyond too deep for me.. I'm at the point where X will be my last purchase until some sort of game play graphics are added.. if that is ever on the horizon for Markus...
I want to see a game unfold before my eyes, ie FPS Baseball, FM 2010.. |
02-12-2010, 12:02 AM | #162 |
College Prospect
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Tempe, AZ
|
Guys,
This is the related thread on the OOTP board. It is pretty big, but there are some interesting discussions and revelations. A little OOTP 11 update... |
02-12-2010, 12:42 AM | #163 | |
College Starter
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Toronto
|
Quote:
It's 18 pages, does the 1st post cover the updates, or is there more stuff buried in there?
__________________
FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML |
|
02-12-2010, 12:47 AM | #164 |
College Prospect
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Tempe, AZ
|
It is the discussion in the 17 pages after the first page.
|
02-12-2010, 09:46 AM | #165 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: The Great Northwest
|
I find a lot of the guys that posted over there are morons, especially the idiot that suggested OOTP include no stats and the only way to acquire stats should be watching each and every game and scoring them yourself... |
02-12-2010, 09:50 AM | #166 |
College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
|
Based on your suggestion, I spent the 30 minutes reading all 17 pages, only to discover that there were only 1 or 2 posts worth reading. One of those is that Markus said he will add baserunning decisions back into the game (i.e. when a runner is on third, the game will let you decide whether you allow the player to tag up, etc.) Other than that and post#1, the thread was useless.
__________________
... |
02-12-2010, 10:10 PM | #167 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: the yo'
|
I can't do the OOTP boards. Too much idiocy.
That being said, if anyone wants in the RWBL, shoot me a PM. I have one or two openings. At the least the braves are open(and are f'n stacked. |
02-13-2010, 06:26 AM | #168 | |
College Starter
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Out of Grad School Hell :)
|
Quote:
Quoted for truth. I've pretty much given up on those boards as well. I love the game, but those boards went sour about the same time they went with SI. |
|
02-13-2010, 07:30 AM | #169 | |
Pro Rookie
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: C-Town
|
Quote:
Didn't Stat-O-Matic have it where you make the decision with a percentage of success?
__________________
XBox Gamertag: Pronk32 FOOL-X - Cleveland Naps FOOL - Cleveland Cyclones SLOP - Cuyahoga Spiders |
|
02-13-2010, 07:42 AM | #170 | |
College Starter
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Out of Grad School Hell :)
|
Quote:
If you're an ootp vet, you know this used to be in the game. I'm looking forward to having that control again, as a manager. I know it's now all that reaslitic, but I had that control as a 3b coach when I was a HS coach. |
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
Thread Tools | |
|
|