03-05-2008, 01:14 AM | #1 | ||
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FBCB - Bombs Away!
So awhile back we learned how easy it is to dominate FBCB in single player by building a pressing/trapping team based on forcing turnovers:
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=59648 But are there other ways to achieve overwhelming success? The credit for the first dynasty goes entirely to AlHill in FOBL land. The credit for this dynasty goes to him as well. When I was first learning the system he was running that owned us all in our online league, he mentioned the possibility of other focused systems, and we're going to try one out here. I've never tried this and really don't know what to expect. Details(many copied from the previous thread): I'm going to start at a small school in a prestige 1 conference, using the old, default conference alignments that existed when the game came out. I'll create a level 0 coach and try to claw my way up. Human coach firing will be turned on, and conference movement is turned off. The goal for this career is to work my way up to the top as a coach, not to take a specific team up to the top. Coach firing is on b/c, if I suck at implementing the system, I want to get kicked back down to the bottom until I get it right. House Rules I only have two rules that I'm going to use to limit my play in any way. One is that I will space out my scheduling. We know there is no fatigue in between games, and there are some advantages to playing all your non conference games in the first 2 weeks of November, I'm going to avoid that and force myself to schedule at least two days between games, preferably three. The other rule is with recruiting. I will not take advantage of the ease of recruiting foreign players. I will not offer any blind scholarships to foreign players in the hopes of landing players that the CPU fails to recruit properly that I would normally not have a chance at. If I find foreign talent through the 'normal' methods I use to search for players(searching based on stats primarily), I must spend money on them every month if I wish to recruit them. The System We're going to rain 3 pointers relentlessly upon our opponents. We're going to get 3 great 3 point shooters on the court at all times, and any time they're open, they shoot. We'll try to not turn the ball over, and we'll try to be a good rebounding team. But most importantly, we want to shoot a LOT of 3 pointers and just try to outscore our opponents. Recruiting Big Men: This is a little different than normal. Normally I just focus on solid big men, INS/DRB/PSD. If I'm going to be shooting 3s non stop, I really don't care if my big men can score. The focus is *entirely* on Rebounding and Defense. Perimeter Players: In our "Steals System" we care about Steals, Ball Handling, and Defense, in that order. In this System, we care about 3 point shooting, Ball Handling, and I'm actually not sure where to go for the 3rd attribute. Defense and Rebounding both have their merits. Defense probably makes the most sense though. Scheduling I don't ever want to have a losing season. Keeping the prestige going up is the most important thing. I will not schedule a single non conference opponent with a prestige above 10 until I am 100% sure my team can handle it. I don't care about my RPI until I'm ready to compete for at large NCAA bids. One exception is that as I improve I will find a bigger team to pick on, most likely Duke if they remain a top program, that I try to schedule every year. Redshirting Unless my job is on the line and I have a stud freshman coming in, I will redshirt everyone. Gameplanning I will rely on the recommend button a lot early in my career, and will eventually force my depth chart to support my system. Later on, the goal is to use the recommend button, set 3 point shooting to 10, pace probably 8 or so, and to make sure our "go to players" are all of our 3 point shooters. With that, lets roll and see what happens! |
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03-05-2008, 01:31 AM | #2 |
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Initial Team
I'm taking over Grambling in the Southwestern Athletic Conference(SWAC). Grambling's prestige is 6. The SWAC is pretty poor overall. Alcorn State has a prestige of 35 and is tops in the league. Alabama A&M, Alabama State, and Mississippi Valley State also have prestige over 20. The Coach Code:
Recruiting and Offense are obviously the big factors here. I actually went to Georgia Tech but I'd rather end up at UNC in the end so setting them as my alma mater maximizes the chances. Assistants We've got a recommended 99,000 to spend on coaches. We snag a recruiting coordinator rated 28, a scout rated 30, and an assistant rated 30 on offense/28 on defense. We pay the minimum 30k for the first two, and $35,000 for the assistant. |
03-05-2008, 02:05 AM | #3 |
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lookin forward to this
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03-05-2008, 02:12 AM | #4 |
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2003/04 Season
Our team sucks, suprise suprise. We schedule a bunch of teams w/ a prestige under 5. Recruiting We've got 3 scholarships and a 7k/mo recruting budget. I target players who shoot 32% of higher from 3 and hope they turn out ok, low budgets kinda suck! We can only afford to go after two targets. One falls off the radar pretty fast, but I land the other at the end of November: Code:
I have no other contacts who don't already have offers from better schools, so I find a couple other suitable guys to go after. going into January we have the lead on another guy who scouts as an 'A' in 3PS, and absolutely no backup targets. Going into February we land our second recruit: Code:
Hopefully these guys at least somewhat resemble the way they've been scouted. There's really nothing else out there and we get 2 recruits this year. We have a solid season, thanks to scheduling the worst teams imaginable: Code:
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03-05-2008, 06:31 PM | #5 |
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Cool idea, I've thought about similar concepts. Just recruting gaurds to run and gun, and jack up 3s.
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03-05-2008, 07:17 PM | #6 |
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Cool. I had missed Radii's dynasty and had not known about extreming out turnovers. I have always emphasized fundamentals over everything else and found I could take a team to close to the top by minimizing turnovers.
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03-06-2008, 12:47 AM | #7 |
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2004 Offseason
Our prestige begins the slow climb upward, going from 6 to 8. Our goal for this year is to avoid last place, and our AD is delighted in our ability to not be last so far. Roster Overview We still suck, and we're going to redshirt our freshmen so we'll breeze through this year too. Incoming Recruits Code:
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Well that's pretty dang good. Both will redshirt and will begin playing next year. Coaching We don't lose any coaches this year. Scheduling And we generate the easiest possible schedule again like last year. |
03-06-2008, 09:43 AM | #8 |
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2004/05 Season
Recruiting We've got 4 scholarships, and $7,500/mo to fill them. I remember from my last dynasty how difficult it is at these levels to recruit both guards and post players in the same year, so I'm going to be willing to give in and grab 2 3-point shooters this season and nothing else if I don't have any early luck. One thing I'm noticing very early is that there do not seem to be nearly as many 3 point specialist as there are guys who are ball hawks who force steals. Many of the top 3-point shooters are simply SGs in the top 100, at least when you look through the players and look at 3P% to decide who to contact. I do find and scout a very low rated SG this year who shot 40% from 3 in high school, but there just isn't the wealth of guys like in steals. I go after 3 guys that were good 3 point shooters in HS who scouted A or B in long range shooting. Unfortunately, I don't land any of the 3 before training camps... and, that goes HORRIBLY. We lose 2 of our guys in to begin December, one of whom was Very High on us. We do finally land a recruit in January: Code:
And he looks very very good overall, he can't play defense of course, and we'll see how he comes in. Yeah... the rest of the recruiting season goes horribly, and we are unable to land a second recruit to go along with Champion. But hopefully we've landed 3 3 point specialists to field a starting lineup these last two years. Results Not suprisingly, we suck more this year than last year. Even if the 3P thing doesn't work we're adding two scorers to the roster next year so this should improve: Code:
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Ending this season, I'm disappointed in the recruiting results big time, but its a start. |
03-06-2008, 09:55 AM | #9 |
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2005 Offseason
Our prestige falls back to 6 from 8. As we failed to finish last place last season, our AD is only satisfied with us, no longer delighted. Hopefully the freshmen help out enough to get us back to .500 this year. Roster Overview Code:
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Our starting center lopez is actually a walkon with an 'A' INS skill. That will help as we build our backcourt and don't really have any post players. Incoming Recruits Champion is good for the #178 recruiting class ranking in the nation. Our one recruit doesn't disappoint. After a redshirt year we'll have 3 full seasons of Champion, Houchens, and Ellis. All out 3 point shooting won't be truly effective until we have backups that can shoot too but we'll definitely be shooting it a ton more this year. Code:
Coaching Again we don't lose any of our crappy assistants. Scheduling And again we'll schedule easy. |
03-07-2008, 09:25 AM | #10 |
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2005/2006 Season
We've got 4 scholarships available this year and might want to consider recruiting a big man. We take a fairly huge chance this year in recruiting, but one that i thought had a fairly high chance of paying off. We found a SG from Germany who shoots 36% from 3, which is usually good to guarentee a high rating, and he's only the 28th best SG, so I thought if I went after him early I might have a shot. And, I did indeed luck out: Code:
Oberle signs in the first signing period. We also land a good shooting SF in the early period: Code:
Muuuuch better than last season! This is before training camps. Code:
A 3rd recruit signs Dec 1. I have the lead on a 4th 3 point shooter, and am debating whether to grab him or go for a post player. Code:
I scouted a bunch of big men just in case I lost this guy but wasn't going to drop a good recruit that I had the lead on. This looks like a stellar recruiting class for our system. Next year we'll focus entirely on big men, and hope that we can raise our prestige up enough that we have the budget to focus on both bigs and shooters some years. Results We're much improved this year, finishing 5th in the conference. We win in the conference quarterfinals before losing to Alcorn State(top seed) in the confrence semis. Code:
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We score more this year than in the past, but our points allowed goes up right with it. We're ridiculously bad on the boards. Code:
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We've got 40 minutes a game out of our backups at SF/SG/PG, and you can see that our backups only shot 1-17 from 3. Getting a full stable of shooters in place is pretty key. Things are certainly moving in the right direction! |
03-07-2008, 09:45 AM | #11 |
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2006 Offseason
Prestige only goes up 1 from 6 to 7. Incoming Recruits Our class is good for the 31st best recruiting class this season, pretty damn solid. Code:
Aberle is great looking. Not awful defense even, and his academics are solid so he'll be able to maximize his training. Code:
2 for 2! 50 handling will probably be good for a starting PG in this league as well. Code:
3 for 3! Good perimeter D as well, and good academics. Code:
Well, 3 out of 4 ain't bad. Roster Overview Code:
Not great, but a much better 3 point shooting roster. Next year is when we'll really start to shine offensively, but this will be better than last year. Code:
Unfortunately, defense is not something we do. Coaches We again don't lose any assistants. Schedule And again we schedule the easiest possible thing we can find. |
03-07-2008, 06:04 PM | #12 |
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Played a couple seasons through while the internet was out during a storm here:
2006/2007 Season We get an AD request approved, our training facilities will be improved next year. Recruiting We've got 4 scholarships this year. We have to land a big man or two this year and most of our early focus will be to do that. If we see a local, lowish ranked(and hopefuly easy to land) 3 point shooter we'll contact him but we have to get big men this year. We find two big men that I think we have a good shot at, and it takes our entire budget to go after them both fully. Unfortunately, we don't land either by training camp time. On Dec 1, we lose one of our targets to a Southern Miss team that swooped in, we were Very High and in the lead until the end there. On Jan 1 we finally land our first big man: Code:
Defensive Rebounding and Post D, I'm definitely concerned that his defense will come in much worse than scouted, the 28 current/B potential has been a problem sign to me for a long time. I won't be suprised to see something like 31/D when he comes in. But just rebounding would be an edge over what we have now. And we get our second big man on Feb 1, this may well complete our class. Code:
I'd prefer better defense but we will take what we can get at this point. yeah, that closes out our recruiting class this year. Results Our horrible defense is evident, but we can score, and we have some talent in the backcourt. We start out 2-2 vs the crap we scheduled in our non conference schedule, but get hot from 3 and win 10 out of 11 to get to 12-3, and we get our first 20 win season. We earn the 2nd seed in our conference, and of course, lose to the 7 seed Mississippi Valley State, 75-64, in the first round. Code:
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As you can see, we score a lot more this year but give up a lot more too, and we still suck at rebounding. We're second in the nation, over 40% as a team, from 3, so we're right where we want to be there. Code:
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Having Cintron off the bench who actually shot over 50% from 3 is a big help, being able to stick with the game plan effectively when the reserves are in is a huge help. Next year Houchens and Ellis will be juniors and we'll have 4 sharpshooting freshmen available to us. We'll hopefully be a bit better next year but having some actual recruited big men two seasons from now is when I expect us to really take off. In my steals dynasty, we set all kinds of records. Since we have 3 go-to scorers, and expect to always have that, I doubt we'll do the same here. Houchens and Ellis made about 90 3's last year as well, but the single season record(only 4 years into the career) is 150 out of 354 by a guy from Navy. The career 3 point record is 416 made early on. Maybe when we play better D we'll get more possessions and might be able to challenge that(or when we get more games b/c of preseason tourneys and postseason games) Awards I am the SWAC coach of the year! Leon Champion is named to the Freshman All-American team, and is the SWAC Freshman of the year Larry Weatherspoon is 2nd team all conference (I didn't recruit him) Justin Ellis is 2nd team all conference Tony Houchens is the SWAC player of the year! That's all for this year! |
03-07-2008, 06:05 PM | #13 |
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2007 Offseason
We get a big prestige jump, from 7->12. This will help a good bit with recruiting dollars. Our AD quickly changes his tune, last year we were expected to avoid last place. This year we are expected to compete for the conference championship. Our training facilities are up to a 13 rating, actually good for 6th(ie not last) in the conference. And, lastly, we lose an assistant to retirement so for the first time we'll be hiring assistants. Incoming Recruits Our recruiting class is rated 119th this year. Code:
I'm absolutely thrilled with Jarrett, he'll be a 4 year starter most likely. Code:
94 Academic rating, this guy could have gotten a schoarship to Harvard... yet here he is. So I was right about the post D, but a 'C' isn't that bad, he'll improve some. The INS rating is a pleasant suprise, as are the blocked shots. Roster Overview Code:
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I hope to see our victory margin increase a bit this year, not b/c we can defend or rebound, but because we are so much more deadly offensively this season. Coaches We hire a new assistant coach for 30k, 70 offense/12 defense. Schedule And again we schedule the easiest possible thing we can find. |
03-07-2008, 06:06 PM | #14 |
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2007/2008 Season
Recruiting We've got two scholarships this year. we're only graduating a walk-on who isn't on the depth chart. Ideally, we would land one shooter and one big man this year. I'll focus on the shooter primarily. With the prestige increase and keeping our coaches to the 30k our recruiting budget is up to 9k/mo(it was 7,250 last year). Sheesh... well we messed that up. I find the 40th ranked PG and 37th ranked PF, both look good to me, and I spend two months on them, only to find that Miami Ohio is after the PF, and Wisconsin is after the PG, so we have to start over in October. It takes a couple months to catch up, but we do get a solid recruit in January: Code:
We lost our big man target though and finding someone new this late is always difficult. I scout some stuff out and offer a scholaship that gets declined, so this is our only recruit this season. Results We again start slow, in fact only shooting 32% from 3-point range in November. We heat up in December and are up to 39% after 2 months. After going 3-0 in conference play we take some hits in January, going 2-5 in the month and sitting at 5-5 in the middle of the pack going into the stretch run. We lose 1 and 3 point games vs Alabama State and Alabama A&M and get destroyed 107-83 in our 2nd meeting with Alabama State. February turns out to be great for us, we go 5-1 and can't win the conference but can finish 2nd. We end up 18-10, and 3rd in the SWAC. We get Alabama A&M in the first round, shoot 3-24 from 3, 16-56 from the floor overall, and take what is by far our worst defeat of the season... 81-42. Code:
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We actualy rebound worse this year, and our 3 point shooting is a bit down this year from last Code:
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Interesting, the backups shot more 3s alright, but they missed, lots. They'll be sophs next year and will be more prepared. With 106 3's this year, Tony Houchens now has 291 3's for his career, 17th all time. He'd need even more next year(325) to set the career record. Awards Freeman Messer is Freshman all-conference. Justin Ellis is 2nd team all conference for the 2nd year in a row. Tony Houchens is the SWAC player of the year for the 2nd year in a row. A good year, but not as good as I'd hoped. Last edited by Radii : 03-07-2008 at 06:23 PM. |
03-07-2008, 06:23 PM | #15 |
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2008 Offseason
Another prestige jump from 12 to 15, so things are moving in the right direction. Our goals remain to compete for the conference championship, and our AD is delighted. My personal goal Incoming Recruits Our recruiting class is rated 116th this year. Code:
Giles is fine but is unlikely to ever start for us. Roster Overview Code:
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we now have some players who play something that at least marginally resembles defense, and, our starting front court can rebound. I'm also expecting to get more out of our backups this year. Coaches We lose our assistant and hire a 61 offense/6 defense replacement. Schedule And again we schedule the easiest possible thing we can find. We're getting closer to the point that we could look to schedule a bit tougher, but really at a prestige 1 conference school, we have to win the conference tourney to go anywhere for awhile, so I'm not feeling any urgency to schedule tougher. One thing I do change is that I schedule my home games first. We get 7 road games, 3 home games... I had been playing road games against the worst possible teams I could find to open the season, saving my home games for the top end of our scheduling range in December. But this year I'm trying to get some easy wins early to prevent the bad starts we've been having. |
03-07-2008, 07:57 PM | #16 |
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Can you post the general season stats (PPG, RPG, etc.) also in the future?
Keep it up!
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03-07-2008, 08:53 PM | #17 | |
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Thanks! And yeah, I think I did that one year and stopped, not sure why, I'll definitely start getting those stats in the season reports again Last edited by Radii : 03-07-2008 at 08:53 PM. |
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03-08-2008, 11:41 AM | #18 |
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Good luck, Radii. You're making me want to fire up FBCB. What a classic game Brian created with that one. Shame he hasn't been able to continue making games.
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03-08-2008, 07:08 PM | #19 |
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2008/2009 Season
We get an AD request approved, our training facilities will be improved next year. Recruiting This is a tough year. We didn't fill all our scholarships last year and are graduating our first recruiting class. We actually have 5 scholarships available. I'm looking to find 3 backcourt players. We're up to $9750/mo for our recruiting budget, so if we can find some solid targets we can pull in a pretty good class here. We have 3 targets as of training camps but don't land anyone in the initial signing period. I'm hoping to snag 2 of the 3 guys we're looking at, 1 would put me a bit behind and 3 would be stellar. We land our first recruit Dec 1. This one was one we expected, a rare 2* guy: Code:
A 38% 3-point shooter in high school. We still have the lead on our two remaining targets. January pretty much ends our recruiting season as we land our last two targets. Code:
Hall can shoot, and he appears to have average defensive skills(which will be a huge upgrade for us). Code:
Arenas looks like a great pickup as well. The handling is solid. The 19/A PRD will be interesting. If he can defend this guy is a stud, but I don't really expect it. I do find a 2* big man from Germany who, while not great, would fit in to give me some depth until I can find better. Texas Tech finds him too, so we're done w/ our recruiting class. Results We start out 3-1, so we're better off than the last two years in November. Starting PF Daniel Jarrett gets an academic suspension for December. We roll right along in December, even without Jarret, and are 10-2, scoring a ton without giving up any more points than last year, shooting over 40% from 3 once again. We roll through January with only 1 loss, and are tied w/ Alcorn State for the conference lead at the midpoint. We lose a few games in February and with 3 games to go Grambling, Alabama State, and Alcorn State are all tied at the top at 11-4 in conference play. We win 2 of our last 3 to finish 13-5 in conference play. Alabama State wins out, and we're the 2 seed. We finally get a win in the conference tourney, 101-71 over Arkansas-Pine Bluff, hitting 13 3's. We fall short again though, losing to the 3 seed 96-77 to Alcorn State in the semis. Code:
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We really weren't much better on the boards, we scored a ton and shot well though! Code:
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And there we go, Ellis and Houchens are done w/ their college careers now. Awards I am the SWAC coach of the year! PF Lincoln Garman is the SWAC Freshman of the year, and 1st team all conference C Daniel Jarrett is Freshamn All-Conference PG Juston Ellis is the SWAC Player of the Year Tony Houchens is 2nd team all conference |
03-09-2008, 04:48 PM | #20 |
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Which school is it that actually employs this type of gameplan- I think it's a D2 school, annually chucking 50 threes a game
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03-09-2008, 04:56 PM | #21 |
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Grinnell in Iowa, I believe.
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03-09-2008, 06:38 PM | #22 |
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03-11-2008, 10:04 AM | #23 |
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2009 Offseason
Coaching Skill Increase I am now a level 1 coach! I add 5 points to recruiting, 10 to offense, and 5 to defense: Code:
Prestige jumps from 15->19, another solid positive bump. In the SWAC, Alabama State has a prestige of 44, Alcorn State is at 31, and Alabama A&M is at 19, tied with us. Mississippi Valley State is at 14, and all other teams are below 10. We have a ways to go to catch the top schools but we have a big edge on much of the conference now. Our goals change from "Compete for the Conference Championship" to "Win the Conference Championship", and our AD is still delighted. Incoming Recruits Our recruiting class is rated 60th this year. Code:
Arenas can already shoot, can handle the ball and has high potential defense. This is a really, really good recruit for us who has a legit shot at being a 4-year starter at PG. Code:
Hall can shoot as well, and has the advantage of having a good jump shot inside the 3 point line as well, but doesn't have any good peripheral skills. His 'C' in PRD though will be better than what we had out there the last few seasons I believe. Code:
Halter is a worse defender but an acceptable ball handler. Also, given my lack of big men, this is somewhat interesting: Code:
Garvin is a walkon. He is a horrible defender but given my lack of depth he might get some playing time for his rebounding ability. Code:
This is, as always, before training camp, so the backups will be a bit better from 3. Code:
Still pretty terrible on D. But we've had worse. Coaches We don't lose any of our assistants this year. Schedule Same as always. |
03-11-2008, 10:48 AM | #24 |
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2009/2010 Season
Recruiting We have 3 scholarships this year. This is a pretty big recruiting class for us, as these guys will be replacing a huge class in 2 years. This season we lose Leon Champion, our starting SG, but next year we lose our PG and SF, Lancaster and Oberle, as well as reserves Hill and Messer. We really need to start getting in more big men though b/c we have 3 solid 3-point shooters redshirting right now. 1 big/2 shooters would be the ideal, as always. We crack the $10k/mo mark for recruiting budget, with $10,750/mo right now. We find a number of targets right away, but we *really* focus on two, hoping we have a prayer of landing at least one, if not both, before training camps. And, we get no one before training camps. Our big man target actually falls from "Very High" to "High" interest, which has me worried that a bigger school is swooping in. We lose the recruit we weren't pursuing very hard. We still have the lead on our top two. Our SG contact, who I thought we had *easily*, is still very high, but hasn't signed yet, and Louisiana Tech has crept up and offered a scholarship. CRAP. We lose our SG target to La Tech. But, we land our big. Code:
The #37 C in the nation, his stats give some hope that his ratings are as advertised(20ppg, 65% FG, 9 rebounds/game). Yeah. We're screwed here. This is our only recruit, a HUGE disappointment. Results Errm. We are ranked #17 in the preseason poll.... heh. We crush Chicago State and move up to #13. Win another game and fall to #18. Finally we lose to Lipscomb in our first road contest. November proves interesting. Check it out after only 4 games: Code:
Hah! We lose another non-conference game to Liberty, and another to Colgate, ending up 7-3 going into conference play. The road splits for a team rated this low are very difficult. 3 home/7 road games makes for a tough non-conference schedule no matter who you play. After a 1-2 start in conference play, we roll off some wins, and at the end of January we're 5-3 in conference play. Alabama A&M is 7-0, and Alabama State is 8-1, so we need a huge run and some luck to win the conference regular season crown. We open February beating 7-0 Alabama A&M, so that's good. But we lose to Alabama State and are probably playing for 3rd. A win over Texas Southern in our very last regular season game gets us to 20 wins, and we actually end up only 1 game behind Alabama A&M and Alabama State, who tie for the regular season title. We shoot 53% from 3(10-19) in a 81-72 win over 6 seed Mississippi Valley State in the conference quarterfinals, setting up a matchup w/ 2 seed Alabama State in the semis. We pull off an 83-70 win and are off to our first conference finals. We get the 5 seed, Alcorn State, in the finals, a team we swept in the regular season. HAH. Yeah. Alcorn State 84, Grambling 43. Good job fellas. Code:
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2nd in the country from 3 this year, and 27th from the field. We're improving on the boards, and are slowly increasing our scoring margin. Code:
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Oberle is simply a monster this year, 113 3's at a 44.5% clip! Awards Leon Champion is Conference Player of the Year Andreas Oberle is 2nd team All-SWAC Lincoln Garman is 2nd team All-SWAC Calvin Giles is named to the SWAC all-Freshman Team Graduating Seniors Just 1 this year: Code:
Champion leaves as our all time leading scorer with 2060 points. Hah, for now, he's our all time leading rebounder as well(Garman will break that next year). His 304 3 pointers is 3rd, behind last year's graduates Houchens and Ellis. champion's 2060 points is good for 12th all time so far, and his 304 3 pointers is 20th all time. That's all for this year, maybe next year we can break through with a conference tournament championship. |
03-11-2008, 03:43 PM | #25 |
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nice read, keep it up !
FBCB is just an awesome game, there´s still periods where i spend almost every available time playing it, just great. Maybe you should create a tougher schedule so it´s not that straightforward ? What i like to do is either let the CPU handle the schedule or take offers instead of offering. Anyway, interesting approach. That´s the great thing about FBCB, you really have control over the philosophy you play with and you can really have a lot of strategies. If you choose to play 3 guard lineup or even play with no real big, or play 3 big guys you really have the advantages and disadvantages that you´d have in real basketball, it´s great. And don´t hesitate screening through 1* and 2* players searching for pure shooters, i had great success with those players especially SFs. I even had 2* star shooting SFs starting at big programs for me. Last edited by whomario : 03-11-2008 at 03:47 PM. |
03-11-2008, 05:04 PM | #26 |
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Once again great thread. This caused me to fire up my old uni that i started with Western Illinois. Man as dated as this game is it is amazing how well it still plays.
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03-11-2008, 06:31 PM | #27 |
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Has one team been consistently beating you in 3 PT % or has the string of #2s just been a coincidence?
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03-11-2008, 06:58 PM | #28 | |
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The scheduling is fairly strategic. Basic strategy, but pretty integral. I don't want losing seasons, and I want my prestige going up every year. Eventually, I'll care about my RPI a little bit, and I'll have a team w/ enough talent to beat better teams. That might not happen until I start getting job offers and take another job, likely at a prestige 3 conference. Once that happens I'll schedule the weak teams until I get a couple recruiting classes in, then I'll start upping the difficulty of teams that I'm scheduling so that I can try to get at-large tournament bids. When I have a top flight program I schedule mostly prestige 45-55 teams(good mid-majors and lower tier big 6 conference members) and then pick out like 3 Prestige 100 teams to pick on every year to make sure I can get a 1 seed if I'm good enough. |
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03-11-2008, 07:00 PM | #29 | |
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You know, I haven't even checked, I'll poke around next time I'm in the game to see. I've been going w/ the CPU recommended pace and motion most of the time too. I'll probably screw around in the exhibition engine some and see if I can find a combination that results in the most 3 pointers per game. Last season there were games where I was only taking 15 or so like a normal team, despite outside shooting, 3-point setting at 10, and my go to scorers all my 3 point shooters. |
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03-12-2008, 01:33 PM | #30 |
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2010 Offseason
Our facilities will be upgraded next season, the AD keeps declining my requests but finally sees the need now. Only a small prestige jump from 19-21 this year. We need a tournament bid. Incoming Recruits Our recruiting class is rated 126th this year, no suprise with just 1 recruit. Code:
Solid, though the academics will cause some problems. Code:
Again this is before training camp. We're going to have 3, maybe 4 guys rated 90 in 3 point shooting here. Code:
Coaches We lose our recruit coordinator and hire a 35 skilled coach for $30,000. We have the coaching budget for better now but the best coach we could get for $50,000 is 39 rated... not worth it. Schedule Same as always. |
03-12-2008, 04:38 PM | #31 |
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2010/2011 Season
Recruiting Between our struggles last year, and the fact that we're losing so many players this year, we have a full 5 scholarships avaialble. Our goal is to fill 3 of them. Code:
Green I'm not sure about, he was easy to get, but do I really think he'll actually come in A/3Ps A/PRD? Not really. The first target i went after this year was a canadian sharpshooter. I've spent half my recruiting budget on him every month, and finally in January, he signs with us: Code:
extremely quick, good shooter, decent ball handler. The steals are awesome though I swear I wasn't looking for that! we can't find another shooter, but we do land a decent big man: Code:
Results This year we are the #9 team in the country in the first poll. We win early and move up to #5, where we stay through an undefeated November. We shoot 51% from 3 in our first 5 games, and don't lose a game until December 15th, when we lose to NC A&T. A week later we lose our 1st conference game as well. We hope to get off to a better start in conference play this year, but lose a 2nd conference game to Alabama A&M. We lose again to them later in January, AND drop a game to Alabama State... *sigh*. Dear lord, we drop one to Alcorn State as well. We're 5-5 in conference play after January. February is much better for us. We go 6-0 and actually tie Alcorn State for 1st in the conference with 2 games left. We're 20-6 and have another 20 win season. We beat Arkansas Pine-Bluff, and our final conference game is vs Alcorn State, with whom we are tied for the regular season lead. We grab the 77-59 home win and will be the 1 seed in the conference going into the conference tourney. Conference Tournament SWAC First Round: (1) Grambling 89, (8 ) Jackson State 76 - We shoot 15-28 from 3 in the win. SWAC Semifinals: (1) Grambling 99, (4) Alabama A&M 83 - 17-32 from 3, Oberle scores 30. SWAC Finals: (1) Grambling 60, (2) Alcorn State 52 - WOOHOO, we are finally going dancing. NCAA Tournament We earn a 14 seed in the tournament, and will play 3 seed Florida out of the SEC. And, we're completely outclassed as expected. Code:
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Butler shoots .405. We're the only other team over 40%. We do make 50 more 3's than any other team in the country. Code:
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119 3's for our team leader this year! Awards I am the SWAC Coach of the year Darron Lancaster is the SWAC Player of the year! Andreas Oberle is 2nd team all SWAC Karl Hill is 1st team all SWAC Lincoln Garman is 1st team all SWAC Graduating Seniors We're losing quite a lot this year: Code:
2 great seasons as a junior and senior for Oberle. Code:
Same for Lancaster. A solid A/T ratio, conference player of the year as a senior, helping lead Grambling to its first tournament appearance. Code:
Hill only got 1 year as a starter after Champion graduated last year. Code:
Messer was quickly replaced by better shooters after starting his freshman year. Lancaster leaves as Grambling's all time leading assist man. that's the only record held by any of our graduating seniors. Hopefully the tournament appearance will be a good springboard for us. The problem with this strategy so far seems to be simply generating the number of 3's that we want. I watched our game vs Florida, in the first 8 minutes we only attempted 1 3-pointer. I'm not sure if there's a way to rectify that. |
03-27-2008, 05:55 PM | #32 |
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2011 Offseason
The tournament bid last year is what we needed. Prestige jumps from 21->28, a huge boost that will *really* help us out. Coaching Skill Increase I'm now a level 2 coach, woohoo. 5 more to recruiting, 10 more to offense, and 5 more to defense. Code:
Job Offers I get an offer from Radford. They have a prestige of 30 and had a smaller budget than us last year. Later we get offers from CS Northridge(Prestige 47) and UC Santa Barbara (Prestige 36) in the Big West and Stony Brook(Prestige 40) in the America East conference. I'm tempted by a prestige 47 team in a level 2 conference, but, I pass. Ok, crossing the '50' mark is enough for me. We get an offer from Montana. They ahve a top 50 recruiting class, won 20 games last year, have a prestige of 51, 2nd in the Big Sky only to Weber State at 55. I am now the head coach of the Montana Grizzlies |
03-27-2008, 06:12 PM | #33 |
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Here's Grambling's History while I was coach:
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Grambling is in very good shape in the SWAC for awhile with the team I have left them. And Montana's history up til now: Code:
And this is one of the big reasons I took this job, a team that has been to the sweet 16, and that has a profile to make the NIT if they don't earn the conference's automatic bid on occasion. With the bigger budget I upgrade my coaches For 70k I bring in Gerard Gomez, a 55 rated recruiting coach For 90k I bring in Gery Fishman, 80 offense/20 defense as my assistant. My scout is still a 30k scout rated 42. Scheduling A huge difference in this team is that we have 14 games, and 7 of them are home games. I schedule some terrible teams on the road, some terrible teams at home and a few teams with prestige in the 20s. Very conservative until I get a feel for my team and get my own recruits playing. Not going to worry about the roster this year, except to point out that the freshman class is five large. |
03-27-2008, 06:36 PM | #34 |
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2011/2012 Season
Recruiting We've only got 2 scholarships this year. The big freshman class has 3 big men, so we are going all out ofr 3 point shooters. We have a $14,500/mo budget. I take a flyer on the #100 recruit in the nation, and it doesn't work, UConn comes in and we get laughed at. I do land two guys in the initial signing period anyway. Code:
Seabrook is rated fairly low but had a 44% 3 point shooting rate and I want some guarenteed good shooters early on. Code:
O Canada. The defense is zero. Which is interesting. But a great 3 point shooter who can hopefully handle the ball is someone I'm glad to have as well. Results I put the team on auto and am just simming through quickly these first two seasons. Montana goes 10-4 in non-conference play, and then 10-4 in conference play, tying for the conference title with Northern Arizona, winning a tiebreaker for the 1 seed. We're upset early in the conference tourney. 20-9 is good for the NIT, where we earn a 10 seed, but lose to Georgetown in the first round. More details here in seasons where its my players of course. Code:
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Good to see I did pick a team that was talented already and will hopefully get us off to a fast start. |
03-30-2008, 02:45 AM | #35 |
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I'm in college basketball overload during the tournament. I am finding myself torn between trying to learn/get into DDS:CB, giving College Hoops 2k8 another serious shot(if you've read my dynasties in the past you may know that I absolutely suck at that game and lose almost every game I play with any realistic slider set, which just got frustrating)... and this dynasty. So I haven't been updating much lately.
I think I've seen enough to say that the steals strategy is just special in this game and having a run and gun 3 point style isn't as easy to recruit for reliably at the low levels(there are probably 3 times as many 'A' steals recruits as their are 'A' 3 point recruits, maybe more, and too many of them are in the top 100). I do kinda want to get to a prestige 5 conference school where i have access to the top 100 recruit pool with regularity and see how it goes, but at this point this kinda feels like any other FBCB rise to the top dynasty which kinda went out of style 3-4 years ago |
03-30-2008, 12:09 PM | #36 |
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Say it ain't so Radii, say it ain't so.
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07-12-2008, 05:36 AM | #37 | |
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Any luck getting into DDS:CB? I've never given it much of a shot. For CH2k8 I'd recommend playing some coach mode! |
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07-13-2008, 01:17 PM | #38 | |
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Nope, I tried a couple more times to get games started with DDS: CB, despite it being my favorite sport, and a newer, more up to date game, it just doesn't do it for me. Its shelved for awhile by now, perhaps when college basketball season starts up again in November/December I'll get the itch and give it another shot. |
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12-16-2008, 04:50 PM | #39 |
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Shame this one wasn't completed. To me, it looks like the three point strat was promising. To get those kind of numbers with poor talent and a poor staff; I wouldn't be surprised if a good team couldn't end up shooting 40%+, which is the equivalent of a 60% FG%.
I think this could be a dominating system in FBCB. |
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