SEGA announces new game......Empire: Total War.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 08-22-2007, 04:29 PM

It's the latest version of the Total War series with one great addition......naval combat.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/33...-War-Announced

Surtt · 08-22-2007, 04:35 PM

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Jaw = dropped.

+1

Anthony · 08-22-2007, 04:38 PM

i want this game yesterday, please. thank you. ok, bye.

MikeVic · 08-22-2007, 04:40 PM

Rome: Total War was that game where you had children and a family lineage and stuff right?

Radii · 08-22-2007, 04:47 PM

holy shit awesome.

Anthony · 08-22-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Rome: Total War was that game where you had children and a family lineage and stuff right?

Rome and Medieval (both versions). never played the Chinese one, but that's not a period of history i'm interested in.

every time i watch The 300 i want to go buy a copy of Rome:TW. Medieval2 is awesome, i'll want to play it again if i watch Kingdom Of Heaven again.

rowech · 08-22-2007, 05:30 PM

I bought the Medieval game and it never worked on my computer despite having all requirements for the game. Tried to get support, etc. and never got anything. The Rome game, Medieval, and now this all look fantastic but I'll never end up trying them because of the bad experience.

Groundhog · 08-22-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

Rome and Medieval (both versions). never played the Chinese one, but that's not a period of history i'm interested in.

Japanese.

DaddyTorgo · 08-22-2007, 06:28 PM

hoot!! what's this one? I havn't even clicked the link yet!

DaddyTorgo · 08-22-2007, 06:30 PM

shit. I bet that won't run on my laptop and i'll hafta get a gaming-rig

Groundhog · 08-22-2007, 06:31 PM

Can someone give me a quick breakdown of the era this is set in? Link is blocked here at work.

DaddyTorgo · 08-22-2007, 06:39 PM

honestly though, aside from the naval battles i'm not sure how attractive this will be. The beauty of the other games was in building empires. in this game, the countries are largely already established...

but the navel battles would likely be worth the price of admission. Plus once the modders get done with it and make the inevitable "pirates" faction playable.

honestly, if that happens i'd be on it like white on rice

Groundhog · 08-22-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

honestly though, aside from the naval battles i'm not sure how attractive this will be. The beauty of the other games was in building empires. in this game, the countries are largely already established...

Yup, this is going to be the major difference. The other parts of the game (trade/diplomacy) are REALLY going to have to be beefed up.

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but the navel battles would likely be worth the price of admission. Plus once the modders get done with it and make the inevitable "pirates" faction playable.

honestly, if that happens i'd be on it like white on rice

I'm a little afraid that the naval battles will be dreadfully boring. I hope I'm wrong.

WSUCougar · 08-22-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

I'm a little afraid that the naval battles will be dreadfully boring. I hope I'm wrong.

Can't be any worse than the auto battle, fleets-skittering-across-the-screen-in-retreat endeavor they are now.

gstelmack · 08-22-2007, 08:34 PM

Bah, I actually have mostly hated the strategic game since the original. Got too complex. I want to fight battles, not figure out how to keep from going broke while building a massive army.

I'm glad I have not yet bought Medieval II and will just skip right to this one when it comes out. Naval combat, mmmmmm....

Buccaneer · 08-22-2007, 08:37 PM

Getting close to the dream game: Civil War: Total War.

When did SEGA get involved in this series?

Groundhog · 08-22-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Getting close to the dream game: Civil War: Total War.

When did SEGA get involved in this series?

Rome was the first Sega title I believe.

Galaril · 08-22-2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Getting close to the dream game: Civil War: Total War.

When did SEGA get involved in this series?

Though it would be great I doubt they would makea whole game based on such a narrow scope. The Civil War is only important to about to .5% of the population and of that the number that are PC strategy war gamers is pretty slim.IMHO. The Total War I am hoping for is WW1 and WW2.

Warhammer · 08-23-2007, 12:15 AM

I used to love the series, but unless they make some drastic changes, this is going to be a stinker from the historical standpoint.

The 18th century battles in Europe were fairly static affairs. You will have to deal with formations (none of this string guys out into a line one deep, etc.) you will need to have formations 3 men deep. You will basically have column and line deployments, nothing else.

Additionally, there shouldn't be a great variety of troops. You'll have riflemen (who should not be allowed to comprise more than 5% of any force, except possibly the Brits and Americans), regular line troops, and then your various cavalry units (which at this scale, light cav lose their effectiveness, etc.)

I am going to be very skeptical of this. While I played the first to death and picked up both Medeval and Rome, I played each successive game less than the previous one.

Groundhog · 08-23-2007, 12:33 AM

I thought Medieval II was far better than Rome when it came to realistic(ish) troops. How the AI assembled forces was what was rubbish, in terms of poor mixes of ranged/close/horses, as well as, of course, dodgy in-battle AI.

Good point re: the troop-type limits though. No doubt they'll put in various high-power fantasy squads and the like, ala Rome and Shogun.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 08-15-2008, 01:11 PM

Wow. Here's a video of how the Naval Battles will work. Pretty nice looking stuff.

Empire Total War: New Empire Total War Trailer, The Art of Naval Battle

Radii · 08-15-2008, 02:09 PM

wow indeed.

rowech · 08-15-2008, 02:29 PM

This game, along with all the others look fantastic. However, I bought Medieval, never got it working, received crappy support and they'll never see a penny from me.

ColtCrazy · 08-15-2008, 05:53 PM

I'm finally getting in MTW2. My wife got it for me when I was deep in Civ IV mode. It's a pretty fantastic game. I love the time period for history, but for military strategy I prefer the time period of Empire. I can't wait to play this one!

JetsIn06 · 08-15-2008, 06:08 PM

I can't wait for this game.

Arctic Blast · 08-16-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ColtCrazy

I'm finally getting in MTW2. My wife got it for me when I was deep in Civ IV mode. It's a pretty fantastic game. I love the time period for history, but for military strategy I prefer the time period of Empire. I can't wait to play this one!

I've never played MTW2, but a friend of mine who's big in to it has used some of the mods out there, and it sounds like they're REALLY good. Check em out if you're interested.

Medieval II: Hosted Modifications - Total War Center Forums

BigDPW · 08-16-2008, 05:34 PM

I have been excited about this game for awhile... MTW2 was my first TW game... I am hoping that I enjoy the naval battles as much as I enjoy the land battles...

Calis · 12-12-2008, 10:15 PM

Not sure if I ever thought this would happen, but apparently it is...they have pushed back the release of this game to add a multiplayer campaign.

Empire: Total War Delayed To Add Multiplayer Campaign - Voodoo Extreme

Curious to see how they pull this off and how well it works, but this is so ingrained in my head as a single player experience I'm not sure if I'm even interested in multi.

Anthony · 12-16-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

I've never played MTW2, but a friend of mine who's big in to it has used some of the mods out there, and it sounds like they're REALLY good. Check em out if you're interested.

Medieval II: Hosted Modifications - Total War Center Forums

i clicked on this link and installed the "Broken Crescent" mod, which basically gives you a whole new game. its massive. its focuses primarily on the eastern civs, lots of civs i never heard of. but the most important part is this is as close as you will get to playing "Kingdom Of Heaven". its a wonderful mod. i'm currently playing as The Kingdom of Jerusalem, and it had the characters from the movie (Balien aka Orlando Bloom; Prince Guy who was the villain; Jeremy Iron's character; King Baldwin, etc). really awesome. the AI is great in terms of the turn based portion. i quickly formed aliances with most every faction, especially the faction that is run by Salud hudin (the muslims in the movie). after a bit they turned on me and started this massive war where i was almost wiped out. you have the ability to request a Crusade - i had to wait like 8 or so turns and just when i thought that part of the game was broken and all was lost a huge army appeared on my lands controlled by a character named Richard (Richard the Lionheart most likely). so now the pendulum has swung back in my favor, but that's mostly due to 1 of my allies starting a war with my main enemy which made it a 2 on 1 fight.

anyway, this is the game i've been waiting for. i'm really enjoying it now and i highly recommend those who still have M2:TW to give it a try. really feels like i'm playing the movie. one thing i didn't like about the regular non-modded game was it quickly turned into "every faction against mine". someone would start a war with me, Pope would tell me to check myself and i'd be like "fuck that, i'm wiping these cockfucks off the map" and then i get excommunicated and soon everyone wants a piece of me. it'd be stupid to fight like wars on 4 fronts. this mod allows me to play as i like - not focus on war development early on so i can quickly develope my income producing developments. you can't fight a war without money so i want to make sure i've maxed out the income potential of every territory so that for the later rounds i can just become a war machine and pump out unit after unit.

08-22-2007, 06:31 PM	#11
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Can someone give me a quick breakdown of the era this is set in? Link is blocked here at work. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

08-22-2007, 08:34 PM	#15
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Bah, I actually have mostly hated the strategic game since the original. Got too complex. I want to fight battles, not figure out how to keep from going broke while building a massive army. I'm glad I have not yet bought Medieval II and will just skip right to this one when it comes out. Naval combat, mmmmmm.... __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

08-23-2007, 12:33 AM	#20
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I thought Medieval II was far better than Rome when it came to realistic(ish) troops. How the AI assembled forces was what was rubbish, in terms of poor mixes of ranged/close/horses, as well as, of course, dodgy in-battle AI. Good point re: the troop-type limits though. No doubt they'll put in various high-power fantasy squads and the like, ala Rome and Shogun. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

08-15-2008, 05:53 PM	#24
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	I'm finally getting in MTW2. My wife got it for me when I was deep in Civ IV mode. It's a pretty fantastic game. I love the time period for history, but for military strategy I prefer the time period of Empire. I can't wait to play this one! __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

08-22-2007, 04:38 PM	#3
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	i want this game yesterday, please. thank you. ok, bye.

08-22-2007, 04:40 PM	#4
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Rome: Total War was that game where you had children and a family lineage and stuff right?

08-22-2007, 04:47 PM	#5
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	holy shit awesome.

08-22-2007, 05:30 PM	#7
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	I bought the Medieval game and it never worked on my computer despite having all requirements for the game. Tried to get support, etc. and never got anything. The Rome game, Medieval, and now this all look fantastic but I'll never end up trying them because of the bad experience.

08-22-2007, 06:28 PM	#9
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	hoot!! what's this one? I havn't even clicked the link yet!

08-22-2007, 06:30 PM	#10
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	shit. I bet that won't run on my laptop and i'll hafta get a gaming-rig

08-22-2007, 06:39 PM	#12
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	honestly though, aside from the naval battles i'm not sure how attractive this will be. The beauty of the other games was in building empires. in this game, the countries are largely already established... but the navel battles would likely be worth the price of admission. Plus once the modders get done with it and make the inevitable "pirates" faction playable. honestly, if that happens i'd be on it like white on rice

08-22-2007, 08:37 PM	#16
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Getting close to the dream game: Civil War: Total War. When did SEGA get involved in this series?

08-23-2007, 12:15 AM	#19
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	I used to love the series, but unless they make some drastic changes, this is going to be a stinker from the historical standpoint. The 18th century battles in Europe were fairly static affairs. You will have to deal with formations (none of this string guys out into a line one deep, etc.) you will need to have formations 3 men deep. You will basically have column and line deployments, nothing else. Additionally, there shouldn't be a great variety of troops. You'll have riflemen (who should not be allowed to comprise more than 5% of any force, except possibly the Brits and Americans), regular line troops, and then your various cavalry units (which at this scale, light cav lose their effectiveness, etc.) I am going to be very skeptical of this. While I played the first to death and picked up both Medeval and Rome, I played each successive game less than the previous one.

08-15-2008, 01:11 PM	#21
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Wow. Here's a video of how the Naval Battles will work. Pretty nice looking stuff. Empire Total War: New Empire Total War Trailer, The Art of Naval Battle

08-15-2008, 02:09 PM	#22
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	wow indeed.

08-15-2008, 02:29 PM	#23
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	This game, along with all the others look fantastic. However, I bought Medieval, never got it working, received crappy support and they'll never see a penny from me.

08-15-2008, 06:08 PM	#25
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	I can't wait for this game.

08-16-2008, 05:34 PM	#27
BigDPW College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC	I have been excited about this game for awhile... MTW2 was my first TW game... I am hoping that I enjoy the naval battles as much as I enjoy the land battles...

12-12-2008, 10:15 PM	#28
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Not sure if I ever thought this would happen, but apparently it is...they have pushed back the release of this game to add a multiplayer campaign. Empire: Total War Delayed To Add Multiplayer Campaign - Voodoo Extreme Curious to see how they pull this off and how well it works, but this is so ingrained in my head as a single player experience I'm not sure if I'm even interested in multi.

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