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I know, I know, But, why are people now claiming this horse is done? I watched a PTI segment and they were both saying this horse would never win another race. Then they did 5 minutes on Big Brown's defeat and the the expert they were talking to agreed that this horse is through being the dominant horse that he was adn would probably never win another race, and would be out of racing in three races.
I think Big Brown will get back on steroids and immedeiately start winning again. He will be back to his Bad Ass self and will not get pushed around again. That is until they ban steroids from horse racing. Big Brown has no god given talent what so ever, but on Steroids he is one Bad Ass Mo-Fo.
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Fixed. I don't know why people have this vision in their heads that steroids are some magic substance that turns normal athletes into super athletes overnight. Like Bonds was a good hitter, but he took steroids and the next day he'd hit 4 homeruns, all at least 500 feet. Steroids allow both humans and animals to recover quicker from an athletic activity. For a baseball/football/etc.. player, that means he can spend a lot more time in the gym and thus get bigger and stronger. Horses don't go to a gym. Steroids allow them to recover quicker and run at their best ability more often. BB may have recovered more after the preakness and derby had he had his monthly shot, but even with the steroids the 3 races over such a short period still take their toll. There's are several reasons that there have only been 3 triple crown winners in the last 60 years and that's a big one. Of course, the steroids couldn't help the ride he got, or the fact that in the 3 weeks between the preakness and belmont, BB had just a single 5f workout, etc... I really don't see a reason they should be banned in horse racing other than the court of public opinion - especially given how ignorant on the subject the general public is. As for breeding, many horses don't have testicles anyways, but for horses that will eventually be put out to stud, Winstrol is shown to have a short-term impact on semen production that goes away once the steroids go away. |
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Questions from a guy who knows very little about horse racing. Who is responsible for making sure a horse's shoes are secure? How easy is it for a horse's shoe to become loose during a race? Oh yeah, when should Kent Desormeaux expect that apology from Rick Dutrow if it turns out that the shoe was the problem, not the ride?
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It's not terribly common, but it definitely happens and there's not much that can be done to prevent it beyond standard care. A horse will run without a shoe - he'd just be sore the next day. Given that he didn't show any soundness issues after the race, I can't imagine this had much effect at all. |
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but he was not running without a shoe, he was allegedly running with a loose shoe. if the initial source, iavarone, was correct, then he could be running with a shoe flopping around with the nail possibly either lose or occasionally poking him. if i remember correctly, he already had some problems heading into the race (although i do not know if it is the same leg) so this would not help at all. i'm sure 14er will still find something to gripe about, however. perhaps the shoes are inhumane? |
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06-24-2008, 07:40 AM | #58 |
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I know I mentioned the safety pin in one of our threads prior to the Belmont (referencing Spectacular Bid in 1979), and the parallels here are very strong. Bottom line is we really will never know what exactly happened to Big Brown in that race. If he comes back to race again (I remain shocked that this is really on the table, but the connections say it is) and looks brilliant again, the mystery will really deepen.
Assuming he is training acceptably, and runs against a solid field in the Jim Dandy (or whatever his next race might be) that will be possibly the most intriguing betting line I can ever recall. |
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As long as he's healthy, I see no reason they wouldn't finish out his 3yo season. Could set up an awesome Classic matchup with Curlin. |
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I wonder how Rick Douchetrow will blame this one on the jockey ... |
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Big Brown career ending injury
Updated: October 13, 2008, 2:47 PM ET NEW YORK -- Kentucky Derby and Preakness winner Big Brown's racing career is over after injuring his right front foot during a workout at Aqueduct on Monday. Trainer Rick Dutrow said the 3-year-old colt, who was preparing for the Breeders' Cup Classic on Oct. 25, appeared to kick himself while working on the turf course at Aqueduct with stablemate Kip Deville. Big Brown was able to complete the six-furlong work when Dutrow noticed blood coming out of the foot. "It looks like he grabbed himself in a bad spot," Dutrow said. Though the extent of the injury is unknown, Michael Iavarone of IEAH Stables, co-owners of Big Brown, said the horse who captivated the racing world during his Triple Crown bid will not race again. "It's in the best interest of the horse to let him recover and move on to his breeding career," Iavarone said.
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10-13-2008, 02:15 PM | #66 |
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The picture of the hoof wasn't pretty.
The big money in breeding really hurts racing in instances like this. Years ago, Big Brown would have been turned out for the rest of the year and brought back as a 4yo and then probably as a 5yo as well before being retired to stud. In that light, what Curlin's ownership group has done has been kinda neat. |
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