College Football Week 10 Thread

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

This year with be the 9th year in a row that UCLA has not either finished 1st or 2nd in the conference.

Since the 1920's, when UCLA was basically a club team, UCLA has never gone more than 3 years in a row without finishing first or second in the conference. In addition, they only went three years in a row twice.

You mean, up until 1998, right? I hear ya. I just can't muster hate for Dorrell anymore, so it's funny to me to see you still so passionate. I spewed my vitriol weeks ago, and now I am just settling in, waiting for the axe to fall. I still care, of course, but I no longer have any expectations for this season, so a loss is expected, and a win does nothing to improve the state of the program.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Now, you could argue that they should've taken their lumps this season and sacrificed 1 or 2 of their home games to get a good opponent on the schedule on the road, and I'd agree with that if they want to be taken seriously for a BCS bowl.

This is what I was getting at. They play 7 home games, if they were serious about the BCS they would have sacrificed one of those home games against a 1AA school to get someone decent. He even managed to get Washington to fly out, thats an opportunity to at least play a BCS school at home and it should have opened up a road game against a good team.

If you're in the WAC or another conference with a weak conference schedule and you want to make a serious run at a BCS Bowl then you have no business scheduling 1AA schools, let alone 2.

If the Hawaii AD wanted to schedule tough road games and cry about the deck being stacked against them and having to schedule road games to play anyone, then I'd listen. However, he scheduled Northern Colorado and Charleston Southern at home and with the way this year has gone it could make all the difference in being 12th in the BCS or being 13th.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Anyone else find it remarkable how many Pac-10 coaches are on the hot seat this year?

Dorrell (UCLA) - highly likely he'll be fired
Doba (WSU) - highly likely he'll be fired/"encouraged" to retire
Stoops (UA) - good possibility he'll be fired
Willingham (UW) - some possibility he'll be fired, especially if the school thinks Mora is better and this is their best/last shot at him

Add to that the possibility that Carroll may bolt for various reasons, and there's the potential for massive changes in the conference this off-season. I think at least 2 coaches are gone, with a strong likelihood of 3.

It could just be how things have rolled this year (every coach gets fired/resigns eventually anyway), but I think it's also an indication the Pac 10 is growing up a little as a football conference. I think it's due to three things--huge BCS money, the return of USC dominance, the success of nontypical Pac-10 teams in the past decade (OSU, Wazzu, Oregon, Cal). The first is the carrot that wasn't there before. The second is motivation out of fear--they don't want to be embarrassed by USC, so they raise the level of their play. The third is proof that even the schools with relatively more difficult circumstances can field a competitive and strong program.

With higher standards for success comes higher expectations--and a lot of coaches are feeling the heat. I think the Pac 10 has done very well as a football conference for the past decade, and you could argue it is only behind the SEC in that stretch for overall top-to-bottom quality of play. The schools and the fans--even the media--expect better now.

Basketball has seen a similar renaissance that I think has been keyed by the return of UCLA to prominence.

[SirFozzie]

Anyone know what's with ANOTHER ESPN College Football game on Sunday Night?

[JeeberD]

I don't know, but Go Ponies!

[Dr. Sak]

Hey Jeebs, I was talking to my old high school principal and he told me he was the replay official for the UTEP/Rice game this past weekend. Did he blow any calls that I can make fun of him for?

[JeeberD]

Nothing obvious that I know about. If I hear about anything I'll be sure to let you know...

[Poli]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I would much, much rather see an unbeaten Hawaii in a BCS bowl than some generic 9-3/10-2 Big 8 team.

Fixed.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by bsak16

Hey Jeebs, I was talking to my old high school principal and he told me he was the replay official for the UTEP/Rice game this past weekend. Did he blow any calls that I can make fun of him for?

How many touchdowns did Rice score? I'm sure there were that many plays he blew.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Fixed.

Big 8?

Wow, just how long did they keep you on that ship?

[MJ4H]

haha Big 8

rules

[CU Tiger]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/BCSStandings?week=4

		Harris Poll			USA Today			Computer Rankings								BCS
	TEAM	RK	PTS	%	RK	PTS	%	A&H	RB	CM	KM	JS	PW	%	COMP AVG	BCS AVG	PRVS
1	Ohio State	1	2823	.9993	1	1493	.9953	25	25	23	24	25	25	.990	1	.9949	1
2	LSU	2	2640	.9345	2	1393	.9287	21	24	25	25	23	24	.960	2	.9411	3
3	Oregon	3	2590	.9168	3	1376	.9173	24	23	24	22	22	23	.920	3	.9180	5
4	Kansas	5	2322	.8219	5	1241	.8273	23	19	20	23	24	22	.880	4	.8431	8
5	Oklahoma	4	2518	.8913	4	1330	.8867	18	18	19	19	18	19	.740	7	.8393	6
6	Missouri	7	2111	.7473	7	1143	.7620	20	13	17	18	19	18	.720	8	.7431	9
7	West Virginia	6	2291	.8110	6	1222	.8147	15	22	14	14	15	16	.600	12	.7419	7
8	Boston College	8	1836	.6499	8	951	.6340	19	20	22	20	21	20	.810	6	.6980	2
9	Arizona State	9	1720	.6088	9	946	.6307	22	21	21	21	20	21	.840	5	.6932	4
10	Georgia	11	1651	.5844	10	927	.6180	17	12	16	16	16	14	.620	9	.6075	10
11	Virginia Tech	13	1500	.5310	11	829	.5527	10	14	13	17	17	17	.610	T-10	.5645	11
12	Michigan	15	1332	.4715	13	770	.5133	12	17	11	12	13	12	.490	13	.4916	12
13	Connecticut	16	1137	.4025	16	568	.3787	16	15	18	15	14	15	.610	T-10	.4637	13
14	Texas	12	1540	.5451	14	757	.5047	9	6	9	2	3	10	.270	18	.4399	15
15	Florida	17	1079	.3819	18	529	.3527	13	10	12	13	12	8	.470	15	.4015	20
16	Hawaii	10	1677	.5936	12	807	.5380	0	0	0	0	0	11	.000	NR	.3772	14
17	USC	14	1404	.4970	15	706	.4707	11	16	1	1	2	2	.160	23	.3759	19
18	Auburn	18	975	.3451	17	551	.3673	6	9	8	8	6	1	.280	17	.3308	16
19	Virginia	21	486	.1720	21	259	.1727	14	0	15	11	10	13	.480	14	.2749	23
20	Boise State	19	747	.2644	19	368	.2453	4	11	10	0	0	5	.190	22	.2333	22
21	Clemson	20	493	.1745	20	318	.2120	1	7	5	9	11	9	.300	16	.2288	25
22	Alabama	22	437	.1547	23	174	.1160	8	2	6	10	7	0	.230	20	.1669	17
23	Penn State	26	178	.0630	25	105	.0700	7	8	3	6	5	6	.240	19	.1243	NR
24	Tennessee	24	251	.0888	24	114	.0760	2	4	0	5	8	4	.150	24	.1049	NR
25	Kentucky	23	288	.1019	22	197	.1313	0	0	4	4	0	0	.040	26	.0911	18

OK, we always hear how crappy the Computer polls are, and I am as big of a Clemson homer as exists. But The A&H poll shows Clemson #1. I have a hard time respecting any poll that has the Tigers #1 at this point in the season. And to think this makes up part of the BCS....shameful

[JeeberD]

From the way it looks, that 1 is one point for a ranking of 25. See how OSU has four 25s on there? I think that's 25 points for first...

[digamma]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I don't remember that. What happened after they were #1?

GT beat them 41-38 in an epic game on a field goal with 7 seconds left by Scott Scisson. Then their Heisman candidate QB Sean Moore got hurt and they dropped two more to end the season.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by digamma

GT beat them 41-38 in an epic game on a field goal with 7 seconds left by Scott Scisson. Then their Heisman candidate QB Sean Moore got hurt and they dropped two more to end the season.

There are only two things I look forward to seeing on rare occasions on ESPN Classic as much or more than some of my favorite UNC Basketball wins. One is Kerry Wood's 20 strikeout game. The other is this Ga Tech/UVA game, such a classic.

[Poli]

Shawn Moore, wasn't it?

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Shawn Moore, wasn't it?

Hell yeah, Shawn Moore to Herman Moore.

[Poli]

I go back to the days of ol' Kordell Stewart.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=52468

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I go back to the days of ol' Kordell Stewart.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=52468

Christ you're old. Not Louis Lipps old, but still old.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

From the way it looks, that 1 is one point for a ranking of 25. See how OSU has four 25s on there? I think that's 25 points for first...

LOL, yeah... the 1 point means that the poll ranks Clemson 25th! 25 means #1 all the way down to 1, which means #25.

[henry296]

The other interesting thing about that UVA team is that they accepted a bid to the Sugar Bowl when they were ranked #1 and subsequently lost three straight. That was one of the things that lead to the structure today with all of the bowl tie-ins. In the past few bowls had automatic tie-ins, and the bowls could choose the opponents.

[Poli]

Those were the good ol' days.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Those were the good ol' days.

+1

[Poli]

Originally Posted by MattJones4Heisman

No one even mentioned Darren McFadden's 323 yards rushing tonight? SEC Record.

Maybe because he only tied it.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

From the way it looks, that 1 is one point for a ranking of 25. See how OSU has four 25s on there? I think that's 25 points for first...

LOL
Well Damn thats what I get for homering and only looking far enough to see my team rankings....

OOOOoooops...Im a dumbass....carry on :o

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

the comment implies that Hawaii = Western Kentucky, which is absurd.

Not as absurd as suggesting Hawaii belongs in a BCS bowl game unless they buy tickets.

[k0ruptr]

so I'm wondering about all the people who say they dont belong, if Hawaii gets into a BCS game and wins, will you stand by those statements?

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by k0ruptr

so I'm wondering about all the people who say they dont belong, if Hawaii gets into a BCS game and wins, will you stand by those statements?

The point for me isn't really that they can't compete. I honestly don't know the answer to that. The question of whether they belong or not comes down to whether or not they've done enough this season to deserve a BCS bid and quite honestly, even with an undefeated season I'd have to say no. What they do in the game really wouldn't be an issue for me.

[k0ruptr]

Originally Posted by Atocep

The point for me isn't really that they can't compete. I honestly don't know the answer to that. The question of whether they belong or not comes down to whether or not they've done enough this season to deserve a BCS bid and quite honestly, even with an undefeated season I'd have to say no. What they do in the game really wouldn't be an issue for me.

interesting.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

LOL
Well Damn thats what I get for homering and only looking far enough to see my team rankings....

OOOOoooops...Im a dumbass....carry on :o

That's ok. I did the same thing a couple of weeks ago looking at Kansas, wondering how we were ranked 6th or something like that. When really it was 6 from the bottom (19th) which was more fitting.

SI

[cartman]

Rumor on the street has two Big 12 coaches getting the ax today. Word from College Station is that they will be buying out Franchione's contract for $2 million. He will stay until the end of the season. And Callahan will have a similar buyout announced this afternoon as well. Let's see if these are true or not.

[JW]

One thing that got overlooked in all the wild plays in the LSU-Alabama game. LSU running back Jacob Hester ran down an Alabama cornerback from behind when the Bama CB intercepted a pass and was headed for the endzone. Now that was a great play. He has 4.5 speed, btw, which is not blazing but is faster than a lot of people think he is. And he has a lot of "want to." Yeah, he got a personal foul for a shove after the tackle, and Bama scored on the possession, but I thought the fact he ran a cornerback down from behind was pretty cool. That and his flying leap for the winning touchdown.