Sad news from Spain, Bomb from ETA terrorist in airport today

[Icy]

Here are the news from CNN:

MADRID, Spain (CNN) -- Spain has blamed a powerful bomb explosion at the country's busiest airport Saturday on Basque separatist group ETA, declaring it a violation of a nine-month cease-fire.

Several people suffered minor injuries when a stolen van exploded in a parking lot near terminal four at Madrid's Barajas International Airport, which had been evacuated after police received a warning.

One man is reported missing after the explosion. If found dead, he would be the first fatality caused by ETA in three years..

Spanish Interior Minister Alfredo Perez Rubalcaba said the government condemned the attack, "which breaks nine months without violence on the part of ETA, which breaks the permanent ceasefire."

A Spanish interior ministry official earlier said two calls had been received by police, the first a warning, the second specifying the type of car and claiming it was the work of ETA.

An end to ETA's cease-fire would be a major blow to Spain's Socialist Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero.

Witnesses described a huge column of smoke billowing out from the scene of the blast.

Samantha Graham, an employee of CNN's parent company who was in an airport concourse for a flight, said hundreds of people evacuated the terminal through jetways and have gathered outside on the airport tarmac. (Watch smoke billowing from airport Video)

ETA announced a "permanent" cease-fire last March, raising hopes for an end to nearly 40 years of separatist violence blamed for more than 800 deaths and thousands of injuries.

In the autumn, so-called low-level street violence resumed in the northern Basque region -- which ETA is seeking to make an independent nation -- as pro-ETA youths burned buses and automatic bank teller machines and carried out other attacks.

In late October, authorities blamed ETA for the theft in Nimes, southern France, of 350 pistols and revolvers and 10,000 rounds of ammunition from an arms factory.

Saturday's explosion, which came shortly after the execution of Saddam Hussein in Iraq, raised fears of a retaliatory strike in a country that has suffered attacks in response to its support for international military operations.

In March 2004, 191 people were killed by bomb attacks on Madrid commuter trains. Those attacks, blamed on al-Qaeda-linked militants, led to Spain's withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

Barajas airport is Spain's busiest, handling more than 40 million passengers a year, according to the airport's official Web site.

CNN's Madrid Bureau chief Al Goodman contributed to this report

[sachmo71]

A permanent cease fire with a terrorist organization that failed? Maybe Zapatero should pull troops out of somewhere to appease them.

[Icy]

When we thought that the peace was closer, the motherfucking assassins are back. With this they break the negotiations with the Spanish government and they are back to the only "words" they know, violence without sense.

It's not about politics anymore, they are just a bunch of assassins that can't get back to a standard life in peace. They are too used to kill, steal, kidnap, sell drugs and weapons etc to go back to a normal life. They have even lost the respect from the citizens of their region, what they call their "country".

Who would offer them a job knowing that they have killed innocent people? who will forget? they know it and they will keep killing until all them are in jail or dead.

That is why most of Spanish were against that negotiation with the terrorists by our pussy gobernment, sadly they don't know how to talk and to deal with civilizated people, they just understand messages by the guns.

[Icy]

Originally Posted by sachmo71

A permanent cease fire with a terrorist organization that failed? Maybe Zapatero should pull troops out of somewhere to appease them.

While i didn't support our troops to be sent to the Iraq "petrol and money" war, I must agree that Zapatero did us a big damage when retiring the troops just after the bombs in Madrid, as he made the terrorist to look as winners and our own goberment as pussies.

[sachmo71]

Originally Posted by Icy

When we thought that the peace was closer, the motherfucking assassins are back. With this they break the negotiations with the Spanish government and they are back to the only "words" they know, violence without sense.

It's not about politics anymore, they are just a bunch of assassins that can't get back to a standard life in peace. They are too used to kill, steal, kidnap, sell drugs and weapons etc to go back to a normal life. They have even lost the respect from the citizens of their region, what they call their "country".

Who would offer them a job knowing that they have killed innocent people? who will forget? they know it and they will keep killing until all them are in jail or dead.

That is why most of Spanish were against that negotiation with the terrorists by our pussy gobernment, sadly they don't know how to talk and to deal with civilizated people, they just understand messages by the guns.

To achieve peace with a terrorist organization, you must remove their power. You can do this a number of ways. Appeasement is one way, but there is little incentive for the leaders to stop using their power to advance their cause. You can try to wipe them out, but as we've seen time and time again, this isn't an easy thing to do.

Right now, terrorism is the most popular weapon of the people. It allows any fringe group to make a spectacular entry into the world view. That fact that they kill people is almost irrelevant to the attention that their causes get. ETA giving up their most powerful weapon in today's political climate is a very unlikely scenario. A group of a few thousand changed the way the most powerful nation on earth views the world, and sent fear to every corner of the world. What is the incentive for ETA to walk away now?

We need to learn how to deal with these groups and remove their power. Since we give them the power, we should be able to take it back, but we haven't figured out how to do it yet.

[EagleFan]

Swiftly and immediately put them down. They cannot be allowed to breath. The moment you even hesitate they see that as a small victory, let alone giving into their demmands. Treat them like the animals they are.

[sachmo71]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Swiftly and immediately put them down. They cannot be allowed to breath. The moment you even hesitate they see that as a small victory, let alone giving into their demmands. Treat them like the animals they are.

I've yet to see this tactic work, but maybe someone will figure out an acceptable way to do this.

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by sachmo71

I've yet to see this tactic work, but maybe someone will figure out an acceptable way to do this.

Isn't the problem being able to do this without any collateral damage, when every bit of collateral damage gives support to the terrorists' cause and raises doubt amongst those on the fence? It seems like a tactic that can't win until you can invent ammo/bombs that have the ability to harm only those that are definitely the enemy, which is obviously impossible since you could be standing next to some of them and not know which side they are on.

[-Mojo Jojo-]

Originally Posted by sachmo71

I've yet to see this tactic work, but maybe someone will figure out an acceptable way to do this.

I think Chuck Norris did it once...

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by sachmo71

I've yet to see this tactic work, but maybe someone will figure out an acceptable way to do this.

It worked for Israel, until the International community made them pull the horns back in...

[sachmo71]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

It worked for Israel, until the International community made them pull the horns back in...

Isreal has been fighting terrorisim nonstop since the country was created. They didn't stop terrorisim with force, nor do I think they could.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by sachmo71

Isreal has been fighting terrorisim nonstop since the country was created. They didn't stop terrorisim with force, nor do I think they could.

Could unfettered terrorism in Israel lead to a collapse of the Israeli government?

[sachmo71]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Could unfettered terrorism in Israel lead to a collapse of the Israeli government?

I don't know, nor am I trying to make the argument that using force against terrorists does not achieve results. My point is that I don't think that massive force alone can end a terrorist threat.