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andy m · 05-15-2003, 02:49 PM

this is weird:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...nt/3028585.stm

sachmo71 · 05-15-2003, 03:02 PM

If it's true, I'm not sure what to think. Propoganda is part of war. I just don't know if this is crossing some line or not. I'll have to mull this one over.

Drake · 05-15-2003, 03:18 PM

If it's from the BBC, can you really believe it anyway?

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 05-15-2003, 03:24 PM

Sad truly sad if its true .

Franklinnoble · 05-15-2003, 03:42 PM

You believe this?

CAsterling · 05-15-2003, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Drake
If it's from the BBC, can you really believe it anyway?

The BBC tends to be less biased than any American News media I have seen so far. So yes I believe there may be some elements of truth in the story, but not necessarily the whole/majority of the story.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-15-2003, 06:12 PM

Given the consistent bias of the BBC coverage while the action was underway, something like this from them is no surprise to me.

For whatever reason, they appear to be trying to become the Euro version of CNN, all left, all the time.

MIJB#19 · 05-16-2003, 03:17 AM

I'll believe the BBC over CNN any day, simply because the BBC tries to be (more) objective.

Then again, I'm not American or British and can only watch both at home from an objective point of view, without manipulating subtitles, so who am I to judge?

Alf · 05-16-2003, 04:58 AM

How can I say that I am not surprised... It was already a make-up for the first Gulf War. The daugther of Kuwait's ambassador acting as a poor victim...

Of course Gulf War I was at least legitimate since Iraq invaded Kuwait, but I digress...

Drake · 05-16-2003, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CAsterling
The BBC tends to be less biased than any American News media I have seen so far. So yes I believe there may be some elements of truth in the story, but not necessarily the whole/majority of the story.

Look here, buddy! I have been quietly mocking andy m for all things British for going on three years now. Don't ruin my schtick with legitimate, reasoned responses.

Thank you.

astralhaze · 05-16-2003, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JonInMiddleGA
Given the consistent bias of the BBC coverage while the action was underway, something like this from them is no surprise to me.

For whatever reason, they appear to be trying to become the Euro version of CNN, all left, all the time.

Do you seriously believe that they just made this story up out of thin air?

It is one thing to doubt the veracity of the statements of the Iraqi doctors (and unless they are Saddam loyalists which is doubtful, I see no reason why they would lie), quite another to believe that the BBC would put their journalistic integrity on the line by fabricating a story critical of the most powerful country in the world.

Dutch · 05-16-2003, 09:40 AM

I seriously doubt that the BBC or CCN would lie, but I wouldn't doubt a freelance reporter, trying to make a buck, lied to everybody about the dramatics of the story and like domino's, every news agency fell in lock step behind the story.

The media really needs to be more responsable about how they report the news.

Real news needs to be confirmed.

And opinion writers need to be better defined so we know when it's spin and when its news.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 05-16-2003, 01:19 PM

I like BBC coverage . They are pretty honest and objective .

CAsterling · 05-16-2003, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Drake
Look here, buddy! I have been quietly mocking andy m for all things British for going on three years now. Don't ruin my schtick with legitimate, reasoned responses.

Thank you.

My apologies, one forgets that you poor colonials need to mock somebody, but unfortunately if you chose to mock the greatest nationality on the planet we can only try and educate you in an attempt to stop such behaviour.

Toodle Pip Old Bean.

Drake · 05-16-2003, 04:43 PM

Hehe. You should come join the FOBL. We need another European guy.

ColtCrazy · 05-16-2003, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MIJB#19
I'll believe the BBC over CNN any day, simply because the BBC tries to be (more) objective.

Then again, I'm not American or British and can only watch both at home from an objective point of view, without manipulating subtitles, so who am I to judge?

I would agree. The BBC does seem to be a little more objective, and it's also odd that at times I discover things going on in the US on the BBC site (which I check fairly regularly) before I hear or read about them here. I heard the US was conducting "dirty bomb" tests months ago, before I heard it here.

What they are reporting is probably true. Question is, are the people telling them the story being completely honest.

05-15-2003, 03:24 PM	#4
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Sad truly sad if its true . __________________ Toujour Pret

05-15-2003, 06:12 PM	#7
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Given the consistent bias of the BBC coverage while the action was underway, something like this from them is no surprise to me. For whatever reason, they appear to be trying to become the Euro version of CNN, all left, all the time. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

05-16-2003, 04:58 AM	#9
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	How can I say that I am not surprised... It was already a make-up for the first Gulf War. The daugther of Kuwait's ambassador acting as a poor victim... Of course Gulf War I was at least legitimate since Iraq invaded Kuwait, but I digress... __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

05-16-2003, 01:19 PM	#13
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	I like BBC coverage . They are pretty honest and objective . __________________ Toujour Pret

05-15-2003, 03:02 PM	#2
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	If it's true, I'm not sure what to think. Propoganda is part of war. I just don't know if this is crossing some line or not. I'll have to mull this one over.

05-15-2003, 03:18 PM	#3
Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	If it's from the BBC, can you really believe it anyway?

05-15-2003, 03:42 PM	#5
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	You believe this?

05-16-2003, 03:17 AM	#8
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	I'll believe the BBC over CNN any day, simply because the BBC tries to be (more) objective. Then again, I'm not American or British and can only watch both at home from an objective point of view, without manipulating subtitles, so who am I to judge?

05-16-2003, 09:40 AM	#12
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	I seriously doubt that the BBC or CCN would lie, but I wouldn't doubt a freelance reporter, trying to make a buck, lied to everybody about the dramatics of the story and like domino's, every news agency fell in lock step behind the story. The media really needs to be more responsable about how they report the news. Real news needs to be confirmed. And opinion writers need to be better defined so we know when it's spin and when its news.

05-16-2003, 04:43 PM	#15
Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	Hehe. You should come join the FOBL. We need another European guy.

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