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damnMikeBrown · 04-25-2003, 06:59 PM

Nah, Simms will be around in the 2nd round for the Bears, if they want him. They still will have access to a glut of high quality DT's, at #13, such as Sullivan, Joseph, and Peterson. They can also stay DL with DE's such as Kelsay, McDougle, and Haynes. At #23, they can look at one of the above players that is still on the board, jump ship on the A-Train and get Johnson at RB, G Steinbach if he's still on the board would be stellar OL. They could also take a flyer on somebody like WR Washington, or CB Woolfolk.

They've gotten themselves options. They dropped out of a huge bonus $$ draft slot, and still are in position to take high quality players. Just because a DT gets taken at 4, doesn't mean he'll be better than the one taken at 13.

I don't think there's any way you can fault this trade on the Bear's side, unless as Arles alludes to, you see the name Simms attached to a Bears jersey in the first round.

Arles · 04-25-2003, 07:34 PM

The Simms comment was based on a rumor that I heard that both the Bears and Steelers like Simms. But, if I were Chicago, I would go with Sullivan at 13 and one of the CBs (pref Woolfolk) at 23. I doubt Steinbach would be there, but he would be a good pick as well if he is. I wouldn't go RB in round one. Ontario Smith (IMO) is the best back in the draft and he is a second round-type player. You could get a solid back with the No. 4 pick in the third.

The Bears should go DT and CB in round 1, QB in round 2 (Simms, Regone or even Grossman if he slips) and either OL or RB in round three. If they do that, this move may work. But, I still don't like it. When you have a chance at a top 5 player (esp in a fairly weak draft in the 1st like this one), you need to take it.

Arlie

AgPete · 04-25-2003, 09:10 PM

I agree with some of you that say this was a move to cut off the Cowboys. I guess I was keeping the slim hope alive that Chicago would go with Leftwich which would drop someone to Dallas since I doubt they intended on drafting another rookie quarterback. The closer we get to draft day, the more sold I was on the Cowboys drafting a defensive tackle. Be a shame if the Jets pick Robertson to keep him away from Parcells. I know all the talk is about Newman but there's a lot of silent talk about Parcells having interest in a lineman on both sides.

ice4277 · 04-25-2003, 10:48 PM

Just to let everyone know, the Detroit media is picking up the story about the possible trade with the Pats and running with it; a couple outlets are even making it sound like it is more likely than not to happen now. But I will still stick with my source about Rogers being the guy for the Lions.

AgPete · 04-25-2003, 10:55 PM

What an unpredictable draft! I'm going to enjoy watching this one. The top pick teams all want to trade down and other than Carson Palmer, we really have no idea who goes first.

bosshogg23 · 04-25-2003, 10:59 PM

An update on the Lions possible trade:

Link

Article says basically that IF the Lions trade then it will be when they are on the clock(roughly 12:10 EST Saturday). I can't imagine a 3rd round draft pick would hold up this trade if both teams wanted it.

mckerney · 04-26-2003, 09:04 AM

What? Lions pass on Rogers and another reciever with great tools and speed but also off field baggage drops to the Vikings?

04-25-2003, 07:34 PM	#52
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	The Simms comment was based on a rumor that I heard that both the Bears and Steelers like Simms. But, if I were Chicago, I would go with Sullivan at 13 and one of the CBs (pref Woolfolk) at 23. I doubt Steinbach would be there, but he would be a good pick as well if he is. I wouldn't go RB in round one. Ontario Smith (IMO) is the best back in the draft and he is a second round-type player. You could get a solid back with the No. 4 pick in the third. The Bears should go DT and CB in round 1, QB in round 2 (Simms, Regone or even Grossman if he slips) and either OL or RB in round three. If they do that, this move may work. But, I still don't like it. When you have a chance at a top 5 player (esp in a fairly weak draft in the 1st like this one), you need to take it. Arlie __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

04-25-2003, 09:10 PM	#53
AgPete College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2001	I agree with some of you that say this was a move to cut off the Cowboys. I guess I was keeping the slim hope alive that Chicago would go with Leftwich which would drop someone to Dallas since I doubt they intended on drafting another rookie quarterback. The closer we get to draft day, the more sold I was on the Cowboys drafting a defensive tackle. Be a shame if the Jets pick Robertson to keep him away from Parcells. I know all the talk is about Newman but there's a lot of silent talk about Parcells having interest in a lineman on both sides. __________________ Click here for the FOF2004 World Football League Dynasty (WFL) - Football Goes Global! OOTP5 Psychology Experiment (Incomplete but fun read for MLB fans.) The FOFC All-Time NFL Team - Voted on by FOFC members.

04-25-2003, 10:55 PM	#55
AgPete College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2001	What an unpredictable draft! I'm going to enjoy watching this one. The top pick teams all want to trade down and other than Carson Palmer, we really have no idea who goes first. __________________ Click here for the FOF2004 World Football League Dynasty (WFL) - Football Goes Global! OOTP5 Psychology Experiment (Incomplete but fun read for MLB fans.) The FOFC All-Time NFL Team - Voted on by FOFC members.

04-25-2003, 10:48 PM	#54
ice4277 Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkley, MI: The Hotbed of FOFC!	Just to let everyone know, the Detroit media is picking up the story about the possible trade with the Pats and running with it; a couple outlets are even making it sound like it is more likely than not to happen now. But I will still stick with my source about Rogers being the guy for the Lions.

04-25-2003, 10:59 PM	#56
bosshogg23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Philly	An update on the Lions possible trade: Link Article says basically that IF the Lions trade then it will be when they are on the clock(roughly 12:10 EST Saturday). I can't imagine a 3rd round draft pick would hold up this trade if both teams wanted it.

04-26-2003, 09:04 AM	#57
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	What? Lions pass on Rogers and another reciever with great tools and speed but also off field baggage drops to the Vikings?

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