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Big-time bust. | 3 | 4.69% | |
At the top of his blue ratings. One of the top linemen in the league. | 23 | 35.94% | |
Slight bust--final rating all below the bottom of blue range, but above 55. | 19 | 29.69% | |
Near the middle of his blue bars. | 19 | 29.69% | |
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02-27-2004, 10:13 AM | #1 | ||
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Boom, Bust, Or Neither
Bust-to-be??? (Great combine ratings, but dumb, and has very high volatility).
Vote and comment on how you think this guy will turn out. His "rookieshow" numbers are 76/98, 76/98, 78/+, 76/98. His adjusted rating is 9.6.
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02-27-2004, 10:14 AM | #2 |
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I think it would be very hard to "boom" given your scout's current impression.
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02-27-2004, 10:15 AM | #3 |
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I never did figure out what the heck that Solecismic rating meant. Intangibles, maybe? I could swear that I've asked this question in another thread, though I don't think I ever got an answer for it.
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02-27-2004, 10:18 AM | #4 |
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Well, he might be one of those superfreaks with the 42 bench reps (and his agility is pretty good too). Percent developed is not bad, either.
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02-27-2004, 10:18 AM | #6 |
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Hmm. I think "minor bust" -- he'll end up in the mid 80s, not low 90s. I'd certainly draft him. I like his 61% development most.
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02-27-2004, 10:19 AM | #7 | |
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Or bust either. How can a guy with current ratings like that bust? This guy looks like a no brainer (in terms of picking him, not in terms of his intelligence, although both may apply). Is your question "Will he reach his full potential?" and is the answer to that the definition of boom/bust in this case? I think he will reach his potential.
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02-27-2004, 10:19 AM | #8 | |
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02-27-2004, 10:20 AM | #9 |
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He'll go near the middle of the bars, somewhere in the 80-90 ranges.
His strength will keep him from dropping too far below that in spite of his high volatility. I wouldn't be surprised to see his endurance be the lowest eventual rating, with pass blocking, then strength, the run blocking top to bottom. |
02-27-2004, 10:21 AM | #10 | |
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Does it play a factor in the game? In the sense that the player may pick up that KRB when you need it? Or more along the lines of their behavior/attitude off the field? There's probably a thread or two in the comprehensive reference thread I could probably look at then, in regards to IQ stuff. I guess most of my focus and attention has gone towards the volatility rating...
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02-27-2004, 10:26 AM | #11 | |
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02-27-2004, 10:26 AM | #12 | |
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02-27-2004, 10:31 AM | #13 |
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He's a stud. Take him.
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02-27-2004, 10:36 AM | #14 |
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I always equated the Solecismic test with the Wonderlic test that they potential draftees in the NFL.
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02-27-2004, 10:43 AM | #15 |
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He's got top five talent. He won't hit his maximum, but he'll still be a damn great lineman.
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02-27-2004, 11:06 AM | #16 |
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Hall-of-famer. Unless I draft him, in which case he'll be a complete bust.
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02-27-2004, 11:17 AM | #17 |
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Guy's a stud, even at the bottom of his bars he's a damn good player. Surefire top five picks like this guy haven't ended up being worse than what I would call starters in my experience. I agree with the middle of the blue bar assessment.
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02-27-2004, 11:22 AM | #18 |
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He will start out as a stud. You will have him for 3 good years. In his contract year (4th year), he will get Repetetive Concussive Disorder (whatever FoF calls it), be out 47 weeks and retire at the end of the season.
This is what happen to a DT I had that was a stud, 85/85 before he got hurt. Last edited by spleen1015 : 02-27-2004 at 11:23 AM. |
02-27-2004, 11:25 AM | #19 | |
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02-27-2004, 11:27 AM | #20 |
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Ok SD, hurry up and sim. I gotta know.
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02-27-2004, 12:21 PM | #21 |
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I think he'll turn out to be exactly how he projects. After a couple of years starting, he will have great ratings - probably in the 80s for everything. His blocking strength rating will probably be his highest of them all, by a handful of points. I'd hazard a guess of 82/82/86/80.
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02-27-2004, 12:54 PM | #22 | |
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02-27-2004, 01:02 PM | #23 |
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Looks good to me. His potentials should be somewhere in the middle of the blue area - putting him in the 80s or low 90s. The actuals will probably be in the 50s somewhere.
I don't like taking offensive linemen with the #1 pick, but this guy is certainly top 5 material, and I wouldn't worry about the high volatility or the fact that he couldn't spell "volatility" (or, indeed, "Mandarich"). |
02-27-2004, 01:23 PM | #24 |
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After his first training camp:
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02-27-2004, 01:24 PM | #25 |
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Bottom-of-the-blue in run and pass blocking, top-of-the-blue in blocking strength and endurance.
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After training camp he is over 79% developed (but only 54% and 53% in the 2 main skills). Do you think comparing his development (expected v. post camp) can help to determine boom/bust in the long run?
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02-27-2004, 01:46 PM | #28 |
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Those run and pass blocking numbers will only increase. He's a stud.
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02-27-2004, 01:51 PM | #29 | |
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02-27-2004, 01:54 PM | #30 |
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Slavic players almost never bust.
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02-27-2004, 02:19 PM | #31 |
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Of course the fact that he was born next week will probably weigh heavily in his development.
Hmmm...I wonder if it'd be feasible/fun to do a dynasty where your players were only born on certain dates, like July 4th and December 7th. Certainly would help the team chemistry.
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02-27-2004, 02:50 PM | #33 |
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Wow, that guy is born exactly 22 years after me...
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02-27-2004, 03:41 PM | #34 | |
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Show off. True. You'd probably have to have a couple of dates so that your position leaders could have chemistry with their teammates. A July 4th/December 7th plan might work.
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With his volitility, they could also plummet. I'd be interested to see what he looks liek after 4 or 5 years. |
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I bet he'll end up having a great career, but his volitility rating scares the hell out of me...
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02-28-2004, 03:55 PM | #38 |
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End of Year 1:
68/80 Overall 58/74 Run Blk 59/77 Pas Blk 99/99 Blk Str 97/97 End
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Oh...and he was 25 for 63 KRB, adn allowed 14 sacks. I was just fooling around with this career, so I'm going to quickly get through the next 4-5 seasons to see how he does.
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After training camp in year 2:
69/78 Overall 58/70 Run Blk 59/76 Pas Blk 100/100 Blk Str 92/92 End Trouble on the way?
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End of Year 2
80/80 Overall 71 Run Blk 76 Pas Blk 100/100 Blk Str 98 End 16 for 67 KRB (23.8 Pct), 6 sacks allowed in 533 plays (1.1SPct)
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Hmmm. A theory - maybe the delayed-reaction booms & busts have their true ratings all along, but hidden, and the 5th-year (or whenever) bust is just when the visible ratings catch up? Because based on his play so far, he certainly looks like a 40/40 (or worse) guy who will soon be revealed as such...
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Interesting theory. Another theory: the fact that he's dumb as dirt (Int: 11) is hindering his raw physical skills.
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End of Season 3
82/82 Overall 75 Run Blk 80 Pas Blk 98 Blk Str 94 End 29 for 76 KRB (38.1%), 7 sacks allowd in 533 pass plays (1.3SPct)
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End of Year 4
80/80 Overall 73 Run Blk 77 Pas Blk 97 Blk Str 93 End
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he sucks
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02-28-2004, 04:39 PM | #49 |
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Forgot his year 4 stats:
27 for 73 KRB (36.9PCt.), 6 sacks allowed in 486 plays (1.2 SPct.)
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