POTUS 2024 - Biden vs Trump - General Election Discussion

[larrymcg421]

Dem nominee prices on PredictIt

Biden - .52
Newsom - .27
Harris - .15
Clinton - .05
Buttigieg - .02
Pritzker - .02

I think the Newsom money is bad. If Biden steps aside now, Harris gets the nomination.

[RainMaker]

How is Whitmer not up there?

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Dem nominee prices on PredictIt

I think the Newsom money is bad. If Biden steps aside now, Harris gets the nomination.

That would be like shooting the golden goose. Entirely on brand though.

[Saul Goode]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

CNN definitely gave Biden dementia and made him look terrible.

There is the worshipper, always one of you. Trump is so much younger than Biden, 3 years? Anyways, I'm curious how one has dementia if he can answer a question with an answer that is rational and well thought out, but the other guy acts like a monkey throwing his feces from the diapers he wears. A sign of dementia is an inability to act rationally and follow instructions. Mango Mussolini failed miserably on both.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Saul Goode

This isn't the first time trump has done this. Debates without any control are perfect for him. He just gets to be his normal lying unhinged clown self.

The Biden team insisted on this format.

[Saul Goode]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

The Biden team insisted on this format.

That's a new one. Donald Trump is a narcissist, unhinged liar and your response is Joe Biden insisted on this format.

Why do you think he lied on a national television about something is so obviously true and something he would love to brag about? Probably because he's a con man. He doesn't want to lose his precious religious suckers that love him because he cheated on his wife with some whore.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Saul Goode

That's a new one. Donald Trump is a narcissist, unhinged liar and your response is Joe Biden insisted on this format.

Why do you think he lied on a national television about something is so obviously true and something he would love to brag about? Probably because he's a con man. He doesn't want to lose his precious religious suckers that love him because he cheated on his wife with some whore.

You complained about the format of the debate and insinuated it was setup to help Trump. I simply stated that the format was one that the Biden team insisted on.

I see you're on to stage 2 though. Bargaining up next.

[Saul Goode]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

You complained about the format of the debate and insinuated it was setup to help Trump. I simply stated that the format was one that the Biden team insisted on.

I see you're on to stage 2 though. Bargaining up next.

I'm glad you know what i think better than me.
Trump is old, a felon, a moron and a liar, while Biden is just old.

You never explained why you worship a cheat, liar and overall terrible human being? I'm curious. Is that because you relate to that? Do you go out in a public and push old women in the street or something? Rob poor kids of their milk money?

[RainMaker]

I don't support Trump and will not be voting for him. I would prefer he lose which is why I am upset people like you insisted on Joe Biden.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Looking forward to a competent, if not strong, showing by you Joe on Jun 27. You got your wish with no audience.

Please make sure your make up guy makes you look less old.

Joe, you need to fire your prep team ... and your make up guy.

Originally Posted by Edward64

I do agree vast majority of older voters have made up their minds by now (unless Joe has an "Admiral Stockdale" moment in the debates).

Joe had his Stockdale moment. He was certainly better than Stockdale and maybe not as fatal, but yeah, this was it.

Originally Posted by Edward64

Looking forward to the supposed Jun & Sep debates.

Dreading it some but I can see it help Joe if he holds his own. If it’s a bad day, he gets confused etc. I can see it really hurt him.

But the public deserves at least one debate.

Scratch that. Definitely not looking forward to Sep debate and it's obvious that Joe should have avoided the Jun debate. Say "it's pretty clear everyone knows what he and I stand for based on our records, and he'll lie anyway on the stage, so why waste time".

Joe's cognitive decline was pretty obvious on stage. I'd welcome being as sharp as he is when I'm that age, but the contrast from 4 years ago and contrast to Trump in performance (not content) is striking.

But as I've said, debates matter. This time it worked against Joe and, if he loses, will be a major reason.



... Dems better get real, real serious about the House & Senate.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Dem nominee prices on PredictIt

Biden - .52
Newsom - .27
Harris - .15
Clinton - .05
Buttigieg - .02
Pritzker - .02

I think the Newsom money is bad. If Biden steps aside now, Harris gets the nomination.

under no circumstances will Biden step aside.

I mean dems never learned that (*cough* rbg *cough*)

[HerRealName]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

under no circumstances will Biden step aside.

I mean dems never learned that (*cough* rbg *cough*)

Feinstein too.

[CrimsonFox]

PS debates don't matter one bit

[Edward64]

I'll let things settle down for a couple days and see how I feel (doubt it'll change), but right now I believe Thomas Friedman has it right.

Joe Biden Is a Good Man and a Good President. He Must Bow Out of the Race. – DNyuz

I had been ready to give Biden the benefit of the doubt up to now, because during the times I engaged with him one on one, I found him up to the job. He clearly is not any longer. His family and his staff had to have known that. They have been holed up at Camp David preparing for this momentous debate for days now. If that is the best performance they could summon from him, it’s time for Joe to keep the dignity he deserves and leave the stage at the end of this term.

If he does, everyday Americans will hail Joe Biden for doing what Donald Trump would never do — put the country before himself.

If he insists on running and he loses to Trump, Biden and his family — and his staff and party members who enabled him — will not be able to show their faces.

They deserve better. American needs better. The world needs better.

It'll be tough for Joe but he should step aside for the greater good. I really don't think Kamala can win it, so I'm thinking Newsome (and/or Michelle) is the best shot the Dems have.

But even if Joe doesn't step aside, I'll still vote for him.

[GrantDawg]

Al Gore is younger than both Trump and Biden.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Al Gore is younger than both Trump and Biden.

So is RFK Jr. ... and he's younger than Al.

He's starting to look better and better everyday in a 3 person race.