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Old 08-06-2005, 01:26 PM   #10
Dutch
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui
Wha? Why ban a Muslim group that rejects violence? Even if they want a Islamic Caliphate in the Mid East, if they are against terror, what threat do they pose?

Some of these proposals are ridiculous. Make 'justifying' terrorism an offense? So if in a unversity discussion, a Professor gives reasons for why people may engage in terrorism (ie, providing a justification for their actions) he may be fined?

Wikipedia is my friend.


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Hizb ut-Tahrir -
Hizb ut-Tahrir claim to be dedicated to the re-establishment of the Khilafah state, and the removal of what the organization consider to be imperialistic non-Islamic control of Islamic societies. According to Hizb ut-Tahrir, these influences include: non-Muslim military capacities, such as the US Armed Forces presence in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan; non-Islamic laws and legal concepts; and Muslim trust in non-Islamic thoughts (secularism, philosophy, and so forth).

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1. Establish a community of Hizb ut-Tahrir members who work together in the same way as the Companions (Sahaba) of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad. Members should accept the goals and methods of the organization as their own and be ready to work to fulfill these goals.

2. Build a strong public opinion among the Muslim masses for Khilafah and the other Islamic concepts that will lead to revival.

3. Once a strong public opinion is achieved; obtain support from army Generals and other influential figures to facilitate the bloodless overthrow of the government in a Muslim country. The government would be replaced by one that implements Islam "generally and comprehensively", carrying Islam to people throughout the world.

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Hizb ut-Tahrir in the United Kingdom
Members of Hizb ut-Tahrir have operated and recruited in over 50 British universities. Due to its radical views Hizb ut-Tahrir was subject to a No Platform banning order by the National Union of Students. It specifically targeted young Hindu women for conversion to Islam, and used student Islamic, Pakistani and Culture societies as fronts to promote its ideology.

The British wing of Hizb ut-Tahrir was known for its abusive and threatening character, this was largely the result of of its leader Omar Bakri Muhammad, who subsequently split away from HT, along with most of HT's student contingent, in order to set up the even more extreme al-Muhajiroun organization in 1996.

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Blair said London would also ban a successor organization to al Muhajiroun, which celebrated the Sept. 11 2001 attacks on the United States but has been officially disbanded.

Disbanded? Where did the members go? Back to Hisb ut-Tahrir?

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Quotes from British Hizb ut-Tahrir members
"There has never been any attempt to convert Muslims to Hinduism because it is intellectually difficult to convince any normal human being to worship the cow, or monkey, or the sexual organs of a female." HuT Khilafah magazine.
"Muslim women can't be expected to accept a religion to the sub-human level as enjoyed by Hindu women." The Muslim Eastender.
"The Shiva Ling is used by Hindu men to test the virginity of their wives on the wedding night." Typical HT rant at meetings.
"Jihad against the Hindu idol worshippers who are ruling Kashmir." HuT article 'Kashmir and Israel - Two knives'.
"There are 121 verses in the Koran about fighting and killing. Ours is not a passive religion." Farid Kassim HT spokesman, The Observer.

Tony Blair specifically stated that saying you reject violence is one thing, but cooperating and supporting efforts to stop violence is simply not happening with this group. They are obstructionists and when that obstruction is going to cost lives and fuel fear and terror, it needs to go.

I agree with Blair 100%.

Last edited by Dutch : 08-06-2005 at 01:29 PM.
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