[Edward64]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

They are migrating South. Again, why should civilians be forced from their homes and corralled into an even smaller concentration camp? How is this acceptable to any human being?

Just so we are not conflating stuff, let me clearly restate. I said civilians should go south of the Gaza strip (e.g. still within the strip). To answer your question specifically on "why should they", the answer is because it's safer in the southern part of the strip.

War to civilians is not acceptable but it is a reality, has happened before and will continue to happen, and is a result of sequence of events. I blame Hamas for initiating this on Oct 7 and I blame Israel for seemingly willing to accept higher collateral damage to get to Hamas.

And what do you mean Arab brothers? Is this some segregation fetish where you have to live among the same skin color? Why support ethnostates?

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Er, no? No idea where or why you brought this up. I'll assume its back to your race/racist baiting as that is your modus operandi.

I'm not talking about ethnostates. You brought it up. I'm talking about "countries" as they exist now, the realities on the ground, and having to control borders to prevent Hamas/radicals from killing their people.

A stretch of Gaza is connected to Egypt. That's the only country that could possibly take them (and it's a lot to ask a poor country to take 2 million refugees). There is no way to access the West Bank (Israel would never allow this anyway), Jordan, or any other "brothers".

Yes, Israel imposes a lot of restrictions on Gaza-to-West Bank and vice versa. Egypt imposes a lot of restrictions on Gaza-to-Egypt. Jordan imposes a lot of restrictions on West Bank-to-Jorday. What's the common reason here?

And even if there was a path to some magical country you think is connected to Gaza, why should civilians be forced from their homes?

For the 4th time, I did not say Gazans should be forced from Gaza into "some magical country". It was you that pulled us into that tangent. See below quote, just easier to copy and paste.

It was you that brought up leaving Gaza strip and being in a prison when I was talking about Gazans leaving Gaza city and going south for safer areas (e.g. but still being in Gaza strip).

When you brought up prison, I brought up the prison is not just because Israel but their Arab brothers also.

It's in fucking Israel. Why would another country not connected to that land have any responsibility for it? It's like imprisoning everyone in the state of Washington behind a wall, putting a naval blockade on them, blowing up their airports, and then blaming France for not taking those people in.

I'm not saying Egypt or Jordan have any responsibility to Gaza & West Bank. I'm saying they don't want to have any responsibility for Gaza & West Bank. Hence, they are willing participants in greatly constraining movement into/through their territory. In other words, the prison that you attribute to only Israel should also include Egypt & Jordan.

Again, why should they be forced from their homes again? Why the support for apartheid and segregation? Rhodesia is dead man.

For the 5th time ...

It was you that brought up leaving Gaza strip and being in a prison when I was talking about Gazans leaving Gaza city and going south for safer areas (e.g. but still being in Gaza strip).

When you brought up prison, I brought up the prison is not just because Israel but their Arab brothers also.