[Brian Swartz]

I just don't think 'we've intervened badly in the past/are doing so now' is a good argument for not intervening at all as a general policy. I do think it's a good argument for making better decisions about who we support and when and in what way. There also have been many examples of having a positive impact, and not everything the US has done overseas has been a war by proxy or otherwhise, and other countries have made international actions that benefited the world, etc.