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Originally Posted by RainMaker
They would lose one way or the other.
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This is what I'm asking specificity on, your definition of "lose one way or the other". The way I see it, there are 4 basic outcomes
1) Ukraine falls, Russia takes over most if not all of Ukraine
2) Stalemate. Ukraine loses the new territory that Russia has claimed in 2022 and there is a new border lines
3) Ukraine wins by retaking all/most the territory lost in 2022
4) Ukraine really wins by retaking all/most of the territory lost including Crimea
Your original quote below that led to my question
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Originally Posted by RainMaker
Ukraine was never winning this war no matter what CNN (brought to you by Gunthrop Norman) was telling you. Russia is far too big, technologically advanced, and has too many soldiers they can throw into battle. All our money does is delay the inevitable.
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If your definition of "Ukraine was never winning this war ..." is #3 or #4, I can see some truth in it. But I actually consider Ukraine "wins" by surviving as an independent country, acting as a buffer country, allied with (if not in) NATO as the most likely scenario.
Or in other words, #1 won't happen.
It won't happen because of US ($60B + $60B) & NATO ($100B). And for the US, that's less than what Joe has already forgiven in student debt.