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Originally Posted by RainMaker
So you support collective punishment. A literal war crime.
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So you support indiscriminate rocket attacks, a literal war crime?
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The 7 October attack included at least 3,000 rockets aimed toward Israel, with over 8000 being fired since the war began.[77][78] The rockets hit as far away as Tel Aviv and the outskirts of Jerusalem.[79] Human Rights Watch termed the rocket attacks as indiscriminate.[13][80] These have included repeated direct strikes on medical facilities, such as the Barzilai Medical Center in Ashkelon, including pediatric facilities at the Child Development Institute.[81] Human right organizations and scholars have condemned indiscriminate rocket attacks as a war crime.[80][82]
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And, of course, for more raw evidence of Hamas war crimes ...
Let's be honest here. Both sides are guilty of war crimes. No doubt. For a list, see our friend wiki.
War crimes in the Israel–Hamas war - Wikipedia
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And I'm not a pacifist. I am against genocide and the slaughter of innocent civilians. Something I think everyone should oppose.
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Yes, indiscriminate killing of innocent civilians is a bad thing. "Both sides" have clearly done this.
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I don't think my tax dollars should support that or any ethnostate.
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I don't have an opinion but would be interested in getting into this discussion. I've seen "ethnostate" tossed around and by wiki's definition, the definition seems very broad and could apply to the US, western Europe, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, China, India etc. But then the nuance is probably something like socialism vs democratic socialism.
So, provide a reputable link (e.g. not twitter or tiktok) and highlight if you want to get into a discussion. Otherwise, I'll assume it's just one of those fancy word-de-jour being tossed around.
Ethnocracy - Wikipedia
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An ethnocracy is a type of political structure in which the state apparatus is controlled by a dominant ethnic group (or groups) to further its interests, power, dominance, and resources. Ethnocratic regimes in the modern era typically display a 'thin' democratic façade covering a more profound ethnic structure, in which ethnicity (race, religion, language etc) – and not citizenship – is the key to securing power and resources [1]
An ethnocratic society facilitates the ethnicization of the state by the dominant group, through the expansion of control likely accompanied by conflict with minorities or neighbouring states.
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I am opposed to my tax dollars going to Hamas as well.
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Does UNRWA fall under this?
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If someone came in my home and harmed me, I would be fine with going after them. I don't believe I have the right to murder everyone in the vicinity of them to do so (neither do any domestic or international laws).
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Someone comes into your home and harms you family. They kidnap your child and takes him away. You come looking and find out the kidnapper's family is aiding the kidnapper. If the kidnapper's family don't cooperate and tell me where the kidnapper is, you better believe I'm doing to do harm to the kidnapper's family to get my child back.
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But I also wouldn't have imprisoned that person on a 22-mile stretch of land for over a decade. Or spent the last 75 years stealing their land and terrorizing them. That tends to anger people and create blowback.
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Asked & answered earlier.
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And I guess the Palestinians have been in the Israeli "house/land" for how long prior to the 75 years? It's easy to identify who is right or wrong depending on the point of time you want to start the discussion. It's certainly not as easy as you make it out to be.
re: locked 2M people in a concentration camp, because I like doing both sides, let's not forget the Egyptians and Jordanians were part of the recent equation.
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I'd toss in the West Bank was doing relatively well and before Hamas/Gaza decided the spoil the party. Or that PA should have been better guests and not try to overthrow Jordan. Or that PA should have taken one of the numerous deals on the table etc. Lots of missed opportunities and blame on both sides.