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Old 03-06-2023, 12:56 PM   #226
Edward64
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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho View Post
I'd love to live in a world where a coordinated series of legislative policies as outlined here was merely a bunch of coincidences rather than a concerted effort to stigmatize certain people, make it easier to attack those people by legal and other methods, and create an environment so unwelcome as to drive them away.

We are talking about similarities to Nazi Germany and the concern that the US will become like Nazi Germany based on the article you linked (let me know if I got it wrong).

Below is how Nazi started persecuting the Jews. So yeah, on a scale of 1-10, you believe its 8+ and I believe it's 2-.

I will concede if Trump won a 2nd term, my no. will have gone up. But yes, our republic and democracy, is no where close to Nazi Germany.

Rise of the Nazis and Beginning of Persecution
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Nazi anti-Jewish policy functioned on two primary levels: legal measures to expel the Jews from society and strip them of their rights and property while simultaneously engaging in campaigns of incitement, abuse, terror and violence of varying proportions. There was one goal: to make the Jews leave Germany.

On March 9, 1933, several weeks after Hitler assumed power, organized attacks on Jews broke out across Germany. Two weeks later, the Dachau concentration camp, situated near Munich, opened. Dachau became a place of internment for Communists, Socialists, German liberals and anyone considered an enemy of the Reich. It became the model for the network of concentration camps that would be established later by the Nazis. Within a few months, democracy was obliterated in Germany, and the country became a centralized, single-party police state.

On April 1, 1933, a general boycott against German Jews was declared, in which SA members stood outside Jewish-owned stores and businesses in order to prevent customers from entering.

Approximately one week later, a law concerning the rehabilitation of the professional civil service was passed. The purpose of the legislation was to purge the civil service of officials of Jewish origin and those deemed disloyal to the regime. It was the first racial law that attempted to isolate Jews and oust them from German life. The first laws banished Jews from the civil service, judicial system, public medicine, and the German army (then being reorganized). Ceremonial public book burnings took place throughout Germany. Many books were torched solely because their authors were Jews. The exclusion of Jews from German cultural life was highly visible, ousting their considerable contribution to the German press, literature, theater, and music.

In September 1935 the “Nuremberg Laws” were passed, stripping the Jews of their citizenship and forbidding intermarriage between Jews and non-Jews. Jews were banned from universities; Jewish actors were dismissed from theaters; Jewish authors’ works were rejected by publishers; and Jewish journalists were hard-pressed to find newspapers that would publish their writings. Famous artists and scientists played an important role in this campaign of dispossession and party labeling of literature, art, and science. Some scientists and physicians were involved in the theoretical underpinnings of the racial doctrine.

If your point is some groups of people are being stigmatized, I will not disagree with you.

If your argument is some groups of people are stigmatized to the level of Jews in Nazi Germany, I'd stay we are no where close. And certainly not by Aug 2030.

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