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Old 12-27-2022, 01:16 AM   #142
Brian Swartz
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Originally Posted by Solecismic
Remember that in the '70s, the same argument was made, consumption has increased dramatically, and yet we have more in proven untapped oil remaining than we had then.

The set of facts then was completely different. We were discovering more oil than we were consuming. That hasn't happened for more than forty years.

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Originally Posted by Solecismic
That will buy us time to figure out how to keep the world's economy going while our brightest and best work on new solutions.

In the meantime, energy reliability and independence is vital.

Such independence is impossible as long as we rely on oil.

My biggest frustration with this discussion is the dismissal of what we have actual evidence for, combined with assertions of future happenings for which don't have evidence. There is no coherent standard of evidence/factual basis that I can discern. Whatever else that means, I think it means there's little more I can usefully say if we aren't going to head-on address ideas such as how the goal of energy independence is completely in conflict with continued reliance on oil, and similar.
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