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Old 12-26-2022, 10:17 PM   #139
RainMaker
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Originally Posted by Solecismic View Post
The 250 million... never heard even close to that elsewhere. The goal, I thought, was 20 million by 2030. But that would require an investment of about $5,000 per EV in new technology just to upgrade the grid. Who pays? The taxpayers - again to support the wealthy.

Taxpayers are currently paying for our access to cheap oil. Except instead of some wealthy Americans reaping the benefits, it's some Arab princes. Instead of it creating jobs for Americans, it's slave labor in the Middle East.

This country has spent TRILLIONS in taxpayer money to fight wars and provide defense in the Middle East over the past few decades for greater access to oil. Not to mention the massive loss of life of military personnel and civilians (including those on American soil through blowback).

We've spent billions trying to destabilize parts of Central and South America so we could obtain cheap oil leading to an influx of poor immigrants from those countries (which also costs taxpayers money). We spend billions in foreign aid to countries so companies can import their oil.

Then you have your oil and gas subsidies which top $16 billion a year. That doesn't include the access to federal lands and infrastructure to obtain and transport that oil. Or the environmental and financial impact when one of these companies blasts a bunch of crude into the Gulf and shrugs their shoulders.

You're pretending there is a free market for oil in this country when there is not. It's hard to imagine a scenario where the cost to subsidize renewable energy is anywhere in the same realm as the cost we currently pay for access to cheap oil.

Last edited by RainMaker : 12-26-2022 at 10:19 PM.
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