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Old 03-20-2022, 06:40 PM   #655
Qwikshot
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Originally Posted by MrBug708 View Post
This is a pretty big "Yikes" comparison.

I think comparing WW2 to what is happening now as a pretty bullshit comparison.

I'd argue that the Ukraine-Russian war is as unsound as US's intervention into Vietnam and probably the Iraqi invasion under Bush W. But I would also state that the US meritless claim of WMDs, still didn't discount that Iraq had in some ways become a haven for al-qaeda which did do the biggest terrorist attack on the West ever.

The nation building was bullshit. The Iraq war was to destabilize and intimidate Iran and control oil investment. Afghanistan at least had a more credible proof of hiding Bin Laden for a time and becoming his base of operations. If the US had had any success there it would have been a sphere of influence against Pakistan and Russia, but most experts would've told you how fruitless it was. And let's face, Afghanistan's collapse to the Taliban was probably what Putin was hoping for with Ukraine.

I don't think the Ukraine attacked any Russian locations. The real reason why Russia invaded was because they were more Western influenced and should they become a NATO member, it would have had the enemy in Putin's eyes right at the front door.

It was not a justifiable reason to invade.

There is no both sides argument here.

Russia is deliberately attacking civilians. They are sending Ukrainian women and children back to Russia.

As I said in an earlier post, I believe Russia will grind everything to dust if they can't have it for themselves (A very Trumpian notion). And they will use nuclear weapons if need be.

I don't think there are any exits now. They'll continue to commit war crimes and atrocities until there is no one left to resist, or the West will step in and we'll have a new world war.

But spare me the "U.S. is just as bad" bullshit.
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