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Old 02-28-2022, 12:15 PM   #147
albionmoonlight
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Originally Posted by sterlingice View Post
Exactly. I think that prior to the invasion, the worst case off ramp was to take the two states and call it a day. He didn't think he'd be in any position where he couldn't fall back to that. And if you're Zelenskyy, you can't accept that offer, especially now, after how well they've been fighting. But if you're Russia, where do you go from here? Long, protracted war with a crippled economy and no life line? And if Putin withdraws, tail tucked between legs, he's probably not alive much longer, right?

SI

Yeah. When the sabre rattling all started, it seemed like it would end with Russia getting a stronger foothold into Ukraine, but the West could turn a blind eye and pretend that it was all fine.

But Russia has fucked this up so badly that they have not left themselves any face-saving options like that. Which means that they can't turn tail and go home. Which means either a protracted war on the civilians of Ukraine or worse (nukes, etc.). Putin is crazy, and maybe he'd rather blow up the world than be embarrassed.

We really need some Russian general or minister or something to assassinate Putin.
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