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Originally Posted by Edward64
I'm all for looking at both sides and trying to come up with a balanced view. I try to see the nuance to positions & differences, and try put them in context with degree, scale, significance etc.
It's clear to me that Trump does not get that grey area. He is a narcissist, he has shown it's all about him, etc. etc. This isn't a one time blip, it's a consistent pattern.
It's okay to hate some people. It's okay to not be civil to some people. I'm all for ignoring and not interacting with them (but obviously Trump is hard to ignore with his platform). Child abusers are at the top of my list. Trump is 2-3 notches down. Die-hard Trump supporters, I don't hate other than maybe the most extremists (but will take that on case by case basis). Unlike some of the more vocal folks on this board, I think 80-20 democrats probably don't hate die-hard Trump supporters and can be civil to them.
A little too melodramatic for me. Taken literally, I agree. But we are nowhere close to that point.
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I'm referring to the online world, the "news" outlets, politicians. It needs to change.
I'm not telling you not to post or to move discussion to even more political items. I'm telling you this lack of civility is how we get from point A to point B. I am not anyone's enemy here.
Trump is never going to conform. At this point, he's a bigger liability for the Republicans than even that crazy congresswoman from Georgia. But he is not what the propaganda outlets claim he is. He doesn't have the attention or focus necessary to plot much of anything.
This "praise" is not praise nor endorsement - he's throwing out the view that Putin's invasion will work because the Democrats are too weak not to let him get away with it. He's praising himself, not Putin. Parsing his quoting of the word "smart" is simply saying that Biden isn't and Trump is - it's a slam on Biden. We've seen him do it 100 times in exactly the same way.
Still very unhelpful and inappropriate. I didn't vote for him in either 2016 or 2020 and I won't do it in 2024, should he decide to run again. But we got Trump because civility is so rare out there these days. And we'll get far worse if we don't learn from that lesson.