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Old 08-18-2014, 09:54 AM   #469
DaddyTorgo
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Originally Posted by PilotMan View Post
Well then there's the rub.

As "what is right" is a subjective term that an individual (in your case) puts on it, whereas "have the right" is something that is determined through the law and courts. In theory those would have been derived "from the people" although in most recent cases people means corporations. There are many definitions of "what is right" and not all of them carry the same priorities from person to person. Therefore you make the argument that "what I think is right" is how all things should be applied. It's entirely self centered, arrogant and in the case of a group discussion not useful. However, instead of being marginalized here, like your belief system is in real life, (and that's why you feel so sad, disheartened, angry and disillusioned) you are focused on. It's because of a combination of curiosity that the rest of us want to try and understand like the way a scientist examines dinosaurs, idealism, (like you could be changed), and disgust.

So when are we going to start executing corporations, banks, and businesses?

You come across as someone who thinks that their own belief system is far and away better than anyone else. It's an insult to pretty much every other person that you try and converse with, because after all, you only see the rest of us as dogshit beneath your righteous boot.

And that's why I called him a troll yesterday - although maybe that wasn't the perfect term. It's more what you said above, that virtually all of his expressed viewpoints aren't useful for the purpose of group discussion (because they all boil down to "what I think is right" and are hostile to any compromise or accommodation or anything) and serve only to derail meaningful and substantive dialogue on issues as people react or get sidetracked. They're just not constructive, just noise.

So call that what you will.
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