[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Just another article today on the "new new norm". Even though no one wants to declare victory yet (guess it depends on how you define it), I think we are well on our way.

NYT: Baghdad secure enough to sin again - The New York Times- msnbc.com

How do you declare victory on something like this? Over 4,000 young men and women have dies with hundreds of thousands hurt. Not including the hundreds of thousands we've killed and displaced in their country. All for reasons that no one can define.

If I spend time and money replacing the transmission in my car while realizing the old one wasn't broke, is it really a victory in my life?