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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Very new to MMA. Anybody know somewhere I can get the who's who and the what's what?

I have tried to figure it out lately but it seems like there are just so many different "leagues."

Is there a good place to go to find out when the fights are and what channel? Most stuff Pay-Per-View?

Sherdog can be a good site for that, and while their forums can also be informative, it's probably the biggest cesspool of idiots on the internet. There are a bunch of other 'news and rumor' kind of sites like mmanews, mmaweekly, mmatorch (the list could go on for a while). Mostly though from what I've found, alot of sites (like sherdog) will give you reminders a few days before the show but if you want to know weeks in advance, generally you need to goto the official sites or the forums.

As for the actual 'leagues' I'd say the pecking order goes something like -

UFC (undoubtedly the deepest talent pool, and if you're paying to watch where you're going to have the best chance to get your monies worth)

WEC (Some of the best MMA you can watch, and it's free on the VS network, another big show sept 10, alot of replays of shows on VS also. Several elite talents in weight divisions UFC does not have)

Affliction (not the best production, or marketing/coverage but they seem intent on putting on some stacked cards even if it puts them out of business. PPV only thus far but still in it's infancy.)

Elite XC (free shows on showtime and CBS, another CBS show coming up in oct, one in august and 1 in sept for showtime I believe. Decent talent level, but aside from a handful of fighters, a definate step down from the promotions above.)

Strikeforce (also shown on showtime I believe, they co promote with Elite XC)

Then you have alot of good foreign MMA with DREAM and Sengoku and some others but they're harder to watch in the US, and an even steeper learning curve to familiarize yourself with them. Pretty much everything else falls into minor league at best.

however, Condit's punches at that point were also exhausted and they were doing barely any damage. If anything the ref couldve stood them up but to stop it when Condit was in essence slapping him with those final punches was a disservice. If that we're the 5th I'd say it shouldve gone to the scorecards. The ref was awfully fast to stand them up for not "advancing position" when miura was on top but with Condit he gave him more time.....Keep in mind I was rooting for Condit but I thought the ref did a poor job.

I agree the ref did some questionable stand ups to Miura, and Condit wasn't really doing any damage. I just think at that point, Miura was too exhausted to defend himself so if they'd of stood them up if Miura could of even stand, he'd be at real risk of injury or getting KTFO for no reason. I also think its a match where he put everything he had into it and he deserves an eventual rematch just because it was so close.